Halcyon ABC mounting - how?

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:58:39 +0200, "HKN"
<divegearfjern@dettewebspeed.dk> wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>I've just bought a set of the Halcyon Active Ballast Control (weight
>pouches), but I'm not quite sure how to mount them to the BP.
>
>Maybe it's because my BP don't have extra slides for it?
>
>Does anybody here know how to?
>
>Best regards,
>
>Henrik

The back of the pouch mounts to the corner holes in the BP, as it's
threaded on the waist belt. While I'm not a huge fan of the system, it
worked pretty well when I dove wet, but I've since sold them.


Laser

"Adam Helberg" wrote

> Unfortunately there is no great way to mount weights on the belt of the BP
> harness.

I don't know if I'd call it great, but there is a way. Charlie Hammond uses
the Dive Rite pockets. I use the Halcyon version, the ones they call trim
pockets. When I use them (only when wearing a wetsuit) I put 2 lbs in each
one. I'm not sure what they are capable of holding, but I'm sure it's more
than the 2 lbs I use. At the time I bought mine, they were reasonably
priced. Somebody discovered that fact and double the price just to ensure
mortals didn't buy them. I suspect other manufacturers make something
similar.

Lee

"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:v4Zcd.762$ta5.318@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> "Adam Helberg" wrote
>
>> Unfortunately there is no great way to mount weights on the belt of the
>> BP harness.
>
> I don't know if I'd call it great, but there is a way. Charlie Hammond
> uses the Dive Rite pockets. I use the Halcyon version, the ones they call
> trim pockets. When I use them (only when wearing a wetsuit) I put 2 lbs
> in each one. I'm not sure what they are capable of holding, but I'm sure
> it's more than the 2 lbs I use. At the time I bought mine, they were
> reasonably priced. Somebody discovered that fact and double the price
> just to ensure mortals didn't buy them. I suspect other manufacturers
> make something similar.
>
> Lee
>
I tried the Dive Rite pockets first, then the Halcyon trim pockets, which
were better. They will hold a 4 pound block each. 6 pounds is too much.

A stainless steel BP and/or a weighted STA help help too. You really don't
need a lot of ditchable weight for warm water diving.

For cold water diving, I use the DUI weight system.

Rudy

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:51:53 GMT, "Lee Bell"
<leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote:

>attaching them to plate. I don't remember whether they are straps that go
>through the slots or holes that are attached to the holes in the plate.
>Either way, it should be pretty obvious.

Straps with holes in the end... bolt 'em to one of the lower outer
holes.



--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/

Thanks,

I was just confused, because the straps seems to be long enough to go
through the slots (where the harness is fixed) and back again, and then be
bolted to the plate. But if you do that, then there is no room for the
harness, so I was wondering if the Halcyon BP had extra slots for the ACBs.

Anyway, I'm lookin' forward to get rid of my belt

-Henrik

Lee Bell <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote:
>> Unfortunately there is no great way to mount weights on the belt of the BP
>> harness.
>
>I don't know if I'd call it great, but there is a way. Charlie Hammond uses
>the Dive Rite pockets. I use the Halcyon version, the ones they call trim
>pockets. When I use them (only when wearing a wetsuit) I put 2 lbs in each
>one. I'm not sure what they are capable of holding, but I'm sure it's more
>than the 2 lbs I use. At the time I bought mine, they were reasonably
>priced. Somebody discovered that fact and double the price just to ensure
>mortals didn't buy them. I suspect other manufacturers make something
>similar.

If one bought the ACB, it was to hold more than 4lbs. For less than 10, I
clipped ankle weights to the valve and 2lb hard weights with dog clips to holes
at the bottom of the plate.

The ACB was a compromise solution for those who need 20lbs of ditchable ballast.
A PITA getting on, esp with the canister, but fine in the water, aside from being
quite the kelp snag.

--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com

In article <v4Zcd.762$ta5.318@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.ne t>, "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> writes:
>"Adam Helberg" wrote
>
>> Unfortunately there is no great way to mount weights on the belt of the BP
>> harness.
>
>I don't know if I'd call it great, but there is a way. Charlie Hammond uses
>the Dive Rite pockets. I use the Halcyon version, the ones they call trim
>pockets. When I use them (only when wearing a wetsuit) I put 2 lbs in each
>one. I'm not sure what they are capable of holding, but I'm sure it's more
>than the 2 lbs I use. ...

My wife has put at least 4 lbs in each or her's on occasion.
5 lb weights -- hard or soft -- fit and should work.
If you need more that 10 lbs total, put additional pockets
on the cam bands that hold your tank -- which will give you
better trim in the bargain.

> ... At the time I bought mine, they were reasonably
>priced. Somebody discovered that fact and double the price just to ensure
>mortals didn't buy them. ...

Damn bastards!

--
Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale FL USA
(hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)
All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.

"Charlie Hammond" <hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com> wrote in message
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> In article <lIXcd.639$%h1.175@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.ne t>,
> "Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>>Unfortunately there is no great way to mount weights on the belt
>>of the BP harness.
>
> Funny, I know of at least three different weight (trim) pockets from two
> different manufactureres that do the job well. See my prior post for details

I've tried two systems: OMS weight pockets and Zeagle trim pockets. Both use velcro
for ditching and both have problems.

For one thing the only attachment is on the waist belt and I have yet to find a
system that absolutely fixes the pockets without movement. Another problem is that I
like to affix a storage pocket on the waist belt and that leaves a space problem on
the waist belt. Of the two the Zeagle pockets are the better as the OMS are way too
bulky.

I suspect other makes of pockets attached to the waist belt suffer from similar
problems.

Adam

I use the Zeagle ZipTouch Weights / Backplate.
They can carry 20lbs(10lbs block slips right in) , bolts to the backplate
and slip onto the harness.
I have tried several other models, but these a holding the weights "upright"
so they leave room for both canister and d-ring.
easy to release and "refill". Best i have tried yet.

just my 25

Happy diving
Tommy
www.scubagear.dk




"HKN" <divegearfjern@dettewebspeed.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4174044d$0$304$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk. ..
> Hi there,
>
> I've just bought a set of the Halcyon Active Ballast Control (weight
> pouches), but I'm not quite sure how to mount them to the BP.
>
> Maybe it's because my BP don't have extra slides for it?
>
> Does anybody here know how to?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Henrik
>
>

Well, I'm happy with my ACBs so far - and would never support the local
Zeagle dealer, who thinks he's selling rubber bands by the inch!

As I wrote, I was just confused about the strap on the pouches, and
wondering if the Halcyon BP had an extra slot for this strap.

Personally I think the DiveRites (which I looked at initially) looks cheap,
while my Halcyons are build to last.

Safe diving

Henrik