DIR/Halcyon BP slots

"Brian Nadwidny" wrote

>> If you tow something, all bets are off. That's the one thing I know of
>> that
>> can't be done as well without a crotch strap.

> I did a scooter course with Andrew Georgitsis this summer. There is a
> better way to tow that doesn't involve hanging on to the crotch strap.

Don't keep it a secret. There are people in the group that could use the
information.

Interesting that Andrew is the one to teach something different. Does this
mean he's departing from the true path of DIR or has the entire movement
adopted a new technique?

Lee

Lee Bell wrote:
>
> "Brian Nadwidny" wrote
>
> >> If you tow something, all bets are off. That's the one thing I know of
> >> that
> >> can't be done as well without a crotch strap.
>
> > I did a scooter course with Andrew Georgitsis this summer. There is a
> > better way to tow that doesn't involve hanging on to the crotch strap.
>
> Don't keep it a secret. There are people in the group that could use the
> information.

I should've clarified it. I should've said "When towing people there is
a better way that doesn't involve using a crotch strap". Obviously for
towing a gibbled scooter then a crotch strap is necessary. For towing
people basically the tow-ee gets between the legs of the tow-er and
hooks in with his armpits with the tow-er's knees. Of course this
basically puts the tow-ee's head right up the tow-er's ass but hey,
what's a little closeness between friends?

> Interesting that Andrew is the one to teach something different. Does this
> mean he's departing from the true path of DIR or has the entire movement
> adopted a new technique?

Lee, if you only knew what is going on...

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
www.mossmanscuba.com

>From: Grot grot@euronet.nl

>Removing the crotch strap would loosen the whole rig up. Without the
>strap in place I would have to tighten up the webbing around the arms
>which would introduce additional problems.

Wrong.

Instead of parroting others, why don't you try this, insread of being told
how you should think, and get back to us.

>>Feel free to share your qualifications to define what is best for me, but if
>
>>the extent of it is that you took a DIRF course, don't waste your time.
>>Nobody here is impressed.
>
>This advice was not targeted at you but at the person who is asking
>questions about the plate.

The point stands.


Popeye
We train young men to drop fire on people, yet their commanders won't
allow them to write fuck on their airplanes because it's obscene. Col Kurtz

>From: Ronald May ron.may@paradise.net.nz

> I was considering running a 2" strap from high on the BP, under the
> arm and down to a suitably positioned hipring.
> This would let 2" webbing pockets mount in a higher place than the
> waist belt and the weight would mainly pull on the plate.
> If the pockets have velcro tops like pocket weight belts, They
> might have to be of the verticly mounting type.
> Anyone know of such a thing?
> Or what is the materials (fabric and thread) one would use to make
> such items?

I put Diverite trim pockets in my waist belt, and zip stripped them to the
plate.

Works like a million bucks.

This is a picture of my old pockets:

http://www.tekdivegirl.com/popeyepic...s/IMG_0284.jpg

The new ones are in the same place, 90 degrees different, and zip stripped to
the backplate.


Popeye
We train young men to drop fire on people, yet their commanders won't
allow them to write fuck on their airplanes because it's obscene. Col Kurtz

"Brian Nadwidny" wrote

> I should've clarified it. I should've said "When towing people there is
> a better way that doesn't involve using a crotch strap". Obviously for
> towing a gibbled scooter then a crotch strap is necessary. For towing
> people basically the tow-ee gets between the legs of the tow-er and
> hooks in with his armpits with the tow-er's knees. Of course this
> basically puts the tow-ee's head right up the tow-er's ass but hey,
> what's a little closeness between friends?

I too should have been more specific. I never intended to address towing
people. I didn't even think of it. I was, of course talking about towing
equipment. Those diving a mile or so back into a cave tend to tow a lot of
stuff.

>> Interesting that Andrew is the one to teach something different. Does
>> this
>> mean he's departing from the true path of DIR or has the entire movement
>> adopted a new technique?
>
> Lee, if you only knew what is going on...

I used to try to keep up. All it ever got me was insults and, now that
George is occupied with the family business, the insults aren't even very
good.

Lee

Grot wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:49:13 GMT, "Lee Bell"
> <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Grot" wrote
>>
>>
>>>>>DO NOT remove the crotch strap, it is an integral piece of the
>>>>>backplate system.
>>>>
>>>>Do not listen to anybody that claims to know just what is right for you.
>>>>Give it a try without the crotch strap. You might find you like it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Exactly my point, advise given is free, its up to you to take it or
>>>not. Removing pieces here and there, adding bits, changing the system
>>>will introduce additional complexities. There are reasons why the
>>>crotch strap is there, as there are reasons why the webbing is
>>>threading the way it is.
>>
>>If that was your point, perhaps you should have said that instead of simply
>>preaching to others.
>>
>>Feel free to explain how removing a crotch strap introduces complexity but
>>having one that is not needed doesn't . . . if you think you can.
>
>
> Removing the crotch strap would loosen the whole rig up. Without the
> strap in place I would have to tighten up the webbing around the arms
> which would introduce additional problems.

It's kinda cute how you just make stuff up.

In article <20041024215000.13148.00003533@mb-m28.aol.com>, Popeye NCAT3
<buzcutt454@aol.comByteMe> wrote:

€ Works like a million bucks.

Typical sailor, underfunded with low aspirations...

No wonder your gear is so fucked up.

--
"We're going to rush the hijackers."
-Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001

>From: Jammer Six jammer@invalid.oz.net
>Date: 10/25/2004 12:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <241020042111205238%jammer@invalid.oz.net>
>
>In article <20041024215000.13148.00003533@mb-m28.aol.com>, Popeye NCAT3
><buzcutt454@aol.comByteMe> wrote:
>
>€ Works like a million bucks.
>
>Typical sailor, underfunded with low aspirations...
>
>No wonder your gear is so fucked up.

I only had a million.

I couldn't afford Halcyon.


Popeye
We train young men to drop fire on people, yet their commanders won't
allow them to write fuck on their airplanes because it's obscene. Col Kurtz