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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Dan Bracuk
 
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Default Re: Equipment for travel- compact lightweight mask, particularly

"Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> pounded away at
his keyboard resulting in:

: I have one.
:
: Scubapro
:
: They make a semi-frameless, too.

When you're in the water, how are they different than a normal mask?

Dan Bracuk
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Douglas W. \Popeye\ Frederick
 
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"Dan Bracuk" <NOTbracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in message
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> "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> pounded away at
> his keyboard resulting in:
>
> : I have one.
> :
> : Scubapro
> :
> : They make a semi-frameless, too.
>
> When you're in the water, how are they different than a normal mask?



They are a normal mask.

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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Tony Howard
 
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"Dan Bracuk" <NOTbracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in message
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> Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 <faunt@panix.com> pounded away at his
> keyboard resulting in:
>
> :OK, are there any frameless masks that allow corrective lenses?
>
> What's a frameless mask?
>


http://www.oceanicworldwide.com/p_masks_shadow.html

Also similar products sold by Beaver, Scubapro, Tusa (short for Tabata USA),
SaekoDive and many other 'brands' (they are probably all made in the same
factory in Taiwan).

You can have a corrective lens fitted to most masks, as the lens can simply
be bonded to the inside of the mask lens (usually with silicon adhesive).
The trick is not to trap any air bubbles in the adhesive! Best to leave
that to the lens company to fit as then its their problem if they screw up.




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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
 
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"Tony Howard" <tony@samesamediving.com> writes:

> "Dan Bracuk" <NOTbracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in message
> news:rt0g71ltdb40t9n63h33nh3joaopt1cd4p@4ax.com...
> > Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 <faunt@panix.com> pounded away at his
> > keyboard resulting in:
> >
> > :OK, are there any frameless masks that allow corrective lenses?
> >
> > What's a frameless mask?
> >

>
> http://www.oceanicworldwide.com/p_masks_shadow.html
>
> Also similar products sold by Beaver, Scubapro, Tusa (short for Tabata USA),
> SaekoDive and many other 'brands' (they are probably all made in the same
> factory in Taiwan).
>
> You can have a corrective lens fitted to most masks, as the lens can simply
> be bonded to the inside of the mask lens (usually with silicon adhesive).
> The trick is not to trap any air bubbles in the adhesive! Best to leave
> that to the lens company to fit as then its their problem if they screw up.


That's what I'm working on now. I've just got to find someone who
knows about this stuff. I'm particularly looking at Oceanic, because
they're "local", but we'll see what I can try out to find one that
fits best.

73, doug
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 AM
John A
 
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Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 Wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I often travel to places where the diving is good, but that's not my
> primary reason for being there. And I need corrective lens for
> diving, so need to carry my own mask.
>
> Is there any mask that is particularly lightweight and packs small,
> can have corrective lenses, and is adequate in other ways?
>
> Is there any other equipment that works particularly well for travel,
> in case I want to carry some other gear of my own? I have a Mosquito
> dive computer, which works well for me.
>
> 73, doug

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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Charlie Hammond
 
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In article <mfrpsw6n9mc.fsf@panix1.panix.com>, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 <faunt@panix.com> writes:
>"Tony Howard" <tony@samesamediving.com> writes:
>
>> "Dan Bracuk" <NOTbracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in message
>> news:rt0g71ltdb40t9n63h33nh3joaopt1cd4p@4ax.com...
>> > Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 <faunt@panix.com> pounded away at his
>> > keyboard resulting in:
>> >
>> > :OK, are there any frameless masks that allow corrective lenses?
>> >
>> > What's a frameless mask?
>> >

>>
>> http://www.oceanicworldwide.com/p_masks_shadow.html
>>
>> Also similar products sold by Beaver, Scubapro, Tusa (short for Tabata USA),
>> SaekoDive and many other 'brands' (they are probably all made in the same
>> factory in Taiwan).
>>
>> You can have a corrective lens fitted to most masks, as the lens can simply
>> be bonded to the inside of the mask lens (usually with silicon adhesive).
>> The trick is not to trap any air bubbles in the adhesive! Best to leave
>> that to the lens company to fit as then its their problem if they screw up.

>
>That's what I'm working on now. I've just got to find someone who
>knows about this stuff. I'm particularly looking at Oceanic, because
>they're "local", but we'll see what I can try out to find one that
>fits best.


Buy any mask that fits and you like, then go to an optician.
Lens Crafters once claimed that they would do this. (I didn't
need the service at that time, so I don't really know.)

It is a somewhat special deal, because they have to special order
the lense. "Normal" lenses are curved on both sides; to be glued
into a mask requires a special lens that is flat on the side away
from the eye. The flat side is required to glue to the flat mask.

Oh, yes. Don't buy a mask which does not have a flat lenses!

None of this is in any way "rocket science", but you may have to
ask at several opticians before you find one that knows how to
do this and is willing to do it for you.

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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Tony Howard
 
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I've often seen stands at the UK dive shows where companies offer to fit
prescription lenses to any standard mask, many of these companies are part
of established opticians, so I'd do a bit of googling and you should find a
company in your country wher this can be done, although it may ned to be a
postal service.

It may require a copy of a recent eye test result before they will supply
the lens, butthat should not be a problem.

Do remember that because of the 'magnifying' effect of water (approximately
30%) that you may need a slightly lower diopter than for a standard reading
glasses prescription, for example, if your normal prscripion was +2.75 then
underwater you would probably find +3.25 or +3.5 adequate.

TonyH.


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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
 
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Default Re: Equipment for travel- compact lightweight mask, particularly

"Tony Howard" <tony@samesamediving.com> writes:

> I've often seen stands at the UK dive shows where companies offer to fit
> prescription lenses to any standard mask, many of these companies are part
> of established opticians, so I'd do a bit of googling and you should find a
> company in your country wher this can be done, although it may ned to be a
> postal service.
>
> It may require a copy of a recent eye test result before they will supply
> the lens, butthat should not be a problem.
>
> Do remember that because of the 'magnifying' effect of water (approximately
> 30%) that you may need a slightly lower diopter than for a standard reading
> glasses prescription, for example, if your normal prscripion was +2.75 then
> underwater you would probably find +3.25 or +3.5 adequate.
>

One of the advantages of an optometrist that dives is that he
understands such things. And I have my normal yearly appointment
scheduled for next Tuesday.

73, doug

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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Rick Hughes
 
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> Oh, yes. Don't buy a mask which does not have a flat lenses!



Do you mean flat 'left to right' or also top to bottom.

Most of the newer masks seem to be following the Cressi Big Eyes style with
highly raked front lenses - assume these can still take stick on lenses ?
I know you can order then to come with corrective lenses as standard so no
'stuck on bit'

Rick


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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 AM
Tony Howard
 
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>
> When you're in the water, how are they different than a normal mask?
>

Frameless masks usually sit closer to the face which means lower volume,
wider angle of view and better for photographers, as you get closer to the
camera viewfinder.

TonyH


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