Din or Yoke

"Alan Street" wrote

> Warning signs and placards won't protect you from negligence. Knowingly
> selling a product that isn't safe for it's intended use is negligence.
> I'm surprised your "product liability guy" (your attorney, I assume)
> would even let you consider something like this.

It is safe for its intended use which is clearly communicated on the device.

Lee

"Alan Street" wrote

> Warning signs and placards won't protect you from negligence. Knowingly
> selling a product that isn't safe for it's intended use is negligence.
> I'm surprised your "product liability guy" (your attorney, I assume)
> would even let you consider something like this.

It is safe for its intended use which is clearly communicated on the device.

Lee

In article <nbLLf.57234$697.13656@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, Lee Bell
<pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote:

€ "Alan Street" wrote
€
€ > Warning signs and placards won't protect you from negligence. Knowingly
€ > selling a product that isn't safe for it's intended use is negligence.
€ > I'm surprised your "product liability guy" (your attorney, I assume)
€ > would even let you consider something like this.
€
€ It is safe for its intended use which is clearly communicated on the device.
€
€ Lee
€
€

????

If the guy is planning to use 3500~4500 psi fills with a yoke, and the
guy is selling him a compressor with this fitting knowing he's planning
on doing it (which is why you said you wouldn't want to be around when
he did those fills), then how is it safe?

In article <nbLLf.57234$697.13656@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, Lee Bell
<pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote:

€ "Alan Street" wrote
€
€ > Warning signs and placards won't protect you from negligence. Knowingly
€ > selling a product that isn't safe for it's intended use is negligence.
€ > I'm surprised your "product liability guy" (your attorney, I assume)
€ > would even let you consider something like this.
€
€ It is safe for its intended use which is clearly communicated on the device.
€
€ Lee
€
€

????

If the guy is planning to use 3500~4500 psi fills with a yoke, and the
guy is selling him a compressor with this fitting knowing he's planning
on doing it (which is why you said you wouldn't want to be around when
he did those fills), then how is it safe?

Hey, if the guy wants a bigger comp just to fill his cil's a little faster
to 200 bar instead of the compressors max operating pressure of 300 bar, the
yoke is a good thing to get, especially if he only owns 200 bar cillinders.
This way he can't mistake a 200 bar cil for a 300 bar (300 bar's have
different conn. ==> DIN).

Also he like's the extra power it's got and never uses, so he expect's it to
suffer less from wear, like the mercedessed used to (engine that could give
much more power, but were tuned down, but therefore were vertually
indestructable.

He's just selling the stuff, not telling people how to use it. He put up
lot's of warning signs on where the unit was intended to use for and éach
part's max.loads .

There isn't much more you can do. You can't stand next to them at each fill.

There are still people selling cars that can drive faster than both the
speed limit on the roads (regulation) and the max speed of their tires
mounted on that car (tech.spec. of components)

Frank

"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> schreef in bericht
news:240220062034452168%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com ...
> In article <nbLLf.57234$697.13656@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, Lee Bell
> <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> ? "Alan Street" wrote
> ?
> ? > Warning signs and placards won't protect you from negligence.
> Knowingly
> ? > selling a product that isn't safe for it's intended use is negligence.
> ? > I'm surprised your "product liability guy" (your attorney, I assume)
> ? > would even let you consider something like this.
> ?
> ? It is safe for its intended use which is clearly communicated on the
> device.
> ?
> ? Lee
> ?
> ?
>
> ????
>
> If the guy is planning to use 3500~4500 psi fills with a yoke, and the
> guy is selling him a compressor with this fitting knowing he's planning
> on doing it (which is why you said you wouldn't want to be around when
> he did those fills), then how is it safe?

Hey, if the guy wants a bigger comp just to fill his cil's a little faster
to 200 bar instead of the compressors max operating pressure of 300 bar, the
yoke is a good thing to get, especially if he only owns 200 bar cillinders.
This way he can't mistake a 200 bar cil for a 300 bar (300 bar's have
different conn. ==> DIN).

Also he like's the extra power it's got and never uses, so he expect's it to
suffer less from wear, like the mercedessed used to (engine that could give
much more power, but were tuned down, but therefore were vertually
indestructable.

He's just selling the stuff, not telling people how to use it. He put up
lot's of warning signs on where the unit was intended to use for and éach
part's max.loads .

There isn't much more you can do. You can't stand next to them at each fill.

There are still people selling cars that can drive faster than both the
speed limit on the roads (regulation) and the max speed of their tires
mounted on that car (tech.spec. of components)

Frank

"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> schreef in bericht
news:240220062034452168%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com ...
> In article <nbLLf.57234$697.13656@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, Lee Bell
> <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> ? "Alan Street" wrote
> ?
> ? > Warning signs and placards won't protect you from negligence.
> Knowingly
> ? > selling a product that isn't safe for it's intended use is negligence.
> ? > I'm surprised your "product liability guy" (your attorney, I assume)
> ? > would even let you consider something like this.
> ?
> ? It is safe for its intended use which is clearly communicated on the
> device.
> ?
> ? Lee
> ?
> ?
>
> ????
>
> If the guy is planning to use 3500~4500 psi fills with a yoke, and the
> guy is selling him a compressor with this fitting knowing he's planning
> on doing it (which is why you said you wouldn't want to be around when
> he did those fills), then how is it safe?

"Alan Street" wrote

> It is safe for its intended use which is clearly communicated on the
> device.

> If the guy is planning to use 3500~4500 psi fills with a yoke, and the
> guy is selling him a compressor with this fitting knowing he's planning
> on doing it (which is why you said you wouldn't want to be around when
> he did those fills), then how is it safe?

It's intended use is indicated right on the compressor and it's not to
overfill tanks. How is it any different from our national speed limit of
70, and cars that will all go faster than that.

Lee

"Alan Street" wrote

> It is safe for its intended use which is clearly communicated on the
> device.

> If the guy is planning to use 3500~4500 psi fills with a yoke, and the
> guy is selling him a compressor with this fitting knowing he's planning
> on doing it (which is why you said you wouldn't want to be around when
> he did those fills), then how is it safe?

It's intended use is indicated right on the compressor and it's not to
overfill tanks. How is it any different from our national speed limit of
70, and cars that will all go faster than that.

Lee

>
> It's intended use is indicated right on the compressor and it's not to
> overfill tanks. How is it any different from our national speed limit of
> 70, and cars that will all go faster than that.
>
> Lee

The roads are policed and some of the violators are caught in an attempt to
curtail speeders. Who are the scuba police, the industry is its own police.
My local dive shops will sell anything to anyone EXCEPT air. No cert card no
air. That is a policing. The equipment should be designed to operate at its
max rating. The compressor should be setup with 300bar din and the operator
then can choose to use an adapter to fill a yoke tank. The operator then
assumes the responsibility to operated the equipment properly and safely.

John

>
> It's intended use is indicated right on the compressor and it's not to
> overfill tanks. How is it any different from our national speed limit of
> 70, and cars that will all go faster than that.
>
> Lee

The roads are policed and some of the violators are caught in an attempt to
curtail speeders. Who are the scuba police, the industry is its own police.
My local dive shops will sell anything to anyone EXCEPT air. No cert card no
air. That is a policing. The equipment should be designed to operate at its
max rating. The compressor should be setup with 300bar din and the operator
then can choose to use an adapter to fill a yoke tank. The operator then
assumes the responsibility to operated the equipment properly and safely.

John