Photo's without flash

JJ wrote:
> Am thinking about getting these two with my Xmas cash - seems reasonable
> value and I will use the camera a lot for family photos and snorkling as
> well as diving. Its only hobby stuff I need it for , but don't want to buy a
> duff set up.
>
> Olympus Mju 725 SW Deep Blue
>
> Plus
>
> Olympus Waterproof Case PT-033 for the Mju 720/725
>
> First question :
>
>
>
> 1) A good combo ?

Specs look good for that camera, including being able to focus as close
as 7 cm in super macro. You'll find that very nice.

The case has been popular for many years. Two of my diving friends are
completely happy with that case.

> 2) Anyone got real world experience diving with this set up ?

Can't help there, but my lesser Olympus 4040 produces good uw shots for
me. A buddy's lesser Olympus Stylus takes great shots.

> 3) I think the flash is covered up by the housing - so am I going to really
> struggle to get shots without a flash (I don't even think I can connect an
> external strobe even if I could afford one). Is this going to be very
> limiting for me (my first scuba camera but my 6th digital camera).

Link to an image:

http://tinyurl.com/yfpaop

I just looked at a picture of the combo and I think the diffuser screen
in front of the flash. I don't think Olympus would block the flash.

I'd say you can probably expect fairly good macro illumination, with
the expected backscatter problem of head-on flash, but don't expect
much illumination beyond a couple meters, if it's like my Oly 4040, or
my buddy's Oly Stylus.

Regards.

Dave C

JJ wrote:
> Am thinking about getting these two with my Xmas cash - seems reasonable
> value and I will use the camera a lot for family photos and snorkling as
> well as diving. Its only hobby stuff I need it for , but don't want to buy a
> duff set up.
>
> Olympus Mju 725 SW Deep Blue
>
> Plus
>
> Olympus Waterproof Case PT-033 for the Mju 720/725
>
> First question :
>
>
>
> 1) A good combo ?

Specs look good for that camera, including being able to focus as close
as 7 cm in super macro. You'll find that very nice.

The case has been popular for many years. Two of my diving friends are
completely happy with that case.

> 2) Anyone got real world experience diving with this set up ?

Can't help there, but my lesser Olympus 4040 produces good uw shots for
me. A buddy's lesser Olympus Stylus takes great shots.

> 3) I think the flash is covered up by the housing - so am I going to really
> struggle to get shots without a flash (I don't even think I can connect an
> external strobe even if I could afford one). Is this going to be very
> limiting for me (my first scuba camera but my 6th digital camera).

Link to an image:

http://tinyurl.com/yfpaop

I just looked at a picture of the combo and I think the diffuser screen
in front of the flash. I don't think Olympus would block the flash.

I'd say you can probably expect fairly good macro illumination, with
the expected backscatter problem of head-on flash, but don't expect
much illumination beyond a couple meters, if it's like my Oly 4040, or
my buddy's Oly Stylus.

Regards.

Dave C

JJ wrote:
> Am thinking about getting these two with my Xmas cash - seems reasonable
> value and I will use the camera a lot for family photos and snorkling as
> well as diving. Its only hobby stuff I need it for , but don't want to buy a
> duff set up.
>
> Olympus Mju 725 SW Deep Blue
>
> Plus
>
> Olympus Waterproof Case PT-033 for the Mju 720/725
>
> First question :
>
>
>
> 1) A good combo ?

Specs look good for that camera, including being able to focus as close
as 7 cm in super macro. You'll find that very nice.

The case has been popular for many years. Two of my diving friends are
completely happy with that case.

> 2) Anyone got real world experience diving with this set up ?

Can't help there, but my lesser Olympus 4040 produces good uw shots for
me. A buddy's lesser Olympus Stylus takes great shots.

> 3) I think the flash is covered up by the housing - so am I going to really
> struggle to get shots without a flash (I don't even think I can connect an
> external strobe even if I could afford one). Is this going to be very
> limiting for me (my first scuba camera but my 6th digital camera).

Link to an image:

http://tinyurl.com/yfpaop

I just looked at a picture of the combo and I think the diffuser screen
in front of the flash. I don't think Olympus would block the flash.

I'd say you can probably expect fairly good macro illumination, with
the expected backscatter problem of head-on flash, but don't expect
much illumination beyond a couple meters, if it's like my Oly 4040, or
my buddy's Oly Stylus.

Regards.

Dave C

"JJ" <John@dontSpamMeAirspeed.co.uk> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:3) I think the flash is covered up by the housing - so am I going to really
:struggle to get shots without a flash (I don't even think I can connect an
:external strobe even if I could afford one). Is this going to be very
:limiting for me (my first scuba camera but my 6th digital camera).

Look for a recent thread on this forum called Look Ma, No Flash. I
recently ventured into the world of natural light photography with
varying results.

Also, if you are going to buy the housing at a bricks and mortar
store, put the camera into the housing and see if your fears about the
flash being blocked are well founded. If they are, go for another
brand where that doesn't happen. When you get right down to it, they
are all good cameras.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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"JJ" <John@dontSpamMeAirspeed.co.uk> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:3) I think the flash is covered up by the housing - so am I going to really
:struggle to get shots without a flash (I don't even think I can connect an
:external strobe even if I could afford one). Is this going to be very
:limiting for me (my first scuba camera but my 6th digital camera).

Look for a recent thread on this forum called Look Ma, No Flash. I
recently ventured into the world of natural light photography with
varying results.

Also, if you are going to buy the housing at a bricks and mortar
store, put the camera into the housing and see if your fears about the
flash being blocked are well founded. If they are, go for another
brand where that doesn't happen. When you get right down to it, they
are all good cameras.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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"JJ" <John@dontSpamMeAirspeed.co.uk> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:3) I think the flash is covered up by the housing - so am I going to really
:struggle to get shots without a flash (I don't even think I can connect an
:external strobe even if I could afford one). Is this going to be very
:limiting for me (my first scuba camera but my 6th digital camera).

Look for a recent thread on this forum called Look Ma, No Flash. I
recently ventured into the world of natural light photography with
varying results.

Also, if you are going to buy the housing at a bricks and mortar
store, put the camera into the housing and see if your fears about the
flash being blocked are well founded. If they are, go for another
brand where that doesn't happen. When you get right down to it, they
are all good cameras.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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"Dave C" <dcalderbank@top.monad.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:Can't help there, but my lesser Olympus 4040 produces good uw shots for
:me. A buddy's lesser Olympus Stylus takes great shots.

I've always believed that the most important feature of any camera is
the photographer.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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"Dave C" <dcalderbank@top.monad.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:Can't help there, but my lesser Olympus 4040 produces good uw shots for
:me. A buddy's lesser Olympus Stylus takes great shots.

I've always believed that the most important feature of any camera is
the photographer.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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"Dave C" <dcalderbank@top.monad.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:Can't help there, but my lesser Olympus 4040 produces good uw shots for
:me. A buddy's lesser Olympus Stylus takes great shots.

I've always believed that the most important feature of any camera is
the photographer.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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"Dan Bracuk" <bracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in message
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>
> Look for a recent thread on this forum called Look Ma, No Flash. I
> recently ventured into the world of natural light photography with
> varying results.

That reminds me of a book in my photography library. The name is
"Existing-Light Photography". It's part of the Kodak Workshop Series.
While it doesn't discuss underwater photography specifically it does provide
many useful tips and concepts that apply directly to underwater shooting.