Oceanic Datamask opinions?

David,

Sorry, I didn't mean to dig on you so much. I guess it was the way I
perceived your post.

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"David Johnstone" <david_ffm@mail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 4, 7:24 am, "ZamaTim" <some...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> The ad says the "Military Special Forces won't get in the water without
> it".
> Well, that's incorrect because I work with several SF units and they don't
> have these mask. However, I'm sure some are field testing them. So
> David,
> do you work for Oceanic and that's what this is all about. Or do you have
> one and would like to express your opinion?

That formulation about "won't get in the water without it" is
obviously hyperbole.
No I don't work for Oceanic. Wow, how suspicous can you get?
I mean, in a group like rec.scuba.equipment we can't really talk
about much without mentioning brand name products or
manufacturers, can we?!
I own a Uwatec Aladin Air X Nitrox with transmitter, bought in
1999. Unfortunately Uwatec/Scubapro now refuse to change
the battery in this model and instead offer an exchange to a
newer (and in my opinion worse) model for the mere bagatelle
of EUR359. So my plan was to buy a Suunto D9 wit transmitter
and change the battery myself after the guarantee period.
Then I saw this and thought it looked interesting.

Other things strike me about the Oceanic info though.
In the second paragraph here:-
http://www.oceanicworldwide.com/p_co...m_details.html
it mentions " The DataMask HUD Wristwatch PDC" and then
again "...sends cylinder pressure data to the wristwatch".
So what's this about "wristwatch"? As far as I can see, there
is no component the diver has on his wrist. Probably somebody
cut and pasted text from the blurb for another model - bad.
Also, it seems it is not a true HUD device. In such a device
the digital data appears along the normal axis of vision, whereas
it seems here you look down into the corner of your mask to
an additional display.
All in all I think it's not quite right for me. Though an interesting
idea, and one big benefit could be diving in zero or very low
visibility conditions where you have problems reading a
computer.

David

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> "David Johnstone" <david_...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> > What do the experts have to say about this piece of kit?:
> >http://www.oceanicworldwide.com/p_computers_iddm.html
> > Thanks, David
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:06:04 -0800, David Johnstone wrote:

> On Feb 3, 2:30 am, nos...@all.please.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:52:46 -0800, David Johnstone wrote:
>> > What do the experts have to say about this piece of kit?:
>> >http://www.oceanicworldwide.com/p_computers_iddm.html
>> > Thanks, David
>>
>> It's not Scottish.
>
> Not exactly cheap, no. OTOH comparing it to the price of
> a good nitrox hoseless air integrated wrist computer with
> transmitter, plus a decent mask, and assuming the list
> price may be discounted a bit, there's not a lot extra for
> the HUD technology, if it can really be described as such.

http://www.cafepress.com/dogs_of_war.74170825

On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:06:04 -0800, David Johnstone wrote:

> On Feb 3, 2:30 am, nos...@all.please.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:52:46 -0800, David Johnstone wrote:
>> > What do the experts have to say about this piece of kit?:
>> >http://www.oceanicworldwide.com/p_computers_iddm.html
>> > Thanks, David
>>
>> It's not Scottish.
>
> Not exactly cheap, no. OTOH comparing it to the price of
> a good nitrox hoseless air integrated wrist computer with
> transmitter, plus a decent mask, and assuming the list
> price may be discounted a bit, there's not a lot extra for
> the HUD technology, if it can really be described as such.

http://www.cafepress.com/dogs_of_war.74170825

On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:06:04 -0800, David Johnstone wrote:

> On Feb 3, 2:30 am, nos...@all.please.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:52:46 -0800, David Johnstone wrote:
>> > What do the experts have to say about this piece of kit?:
>> >http://www.oceanicworldwide.com/p_computers_iddm.html
>> > Thanks, David
>>
>> It's not Scottish.
>
> Not exactly cheap, no. OTOH comparing it to the price of
> a good nitrox hoseless air integrated wrist computer with
> transmitter, plus a decent mask, and assuming the list
> price may be discounted a bit, there's not a lot extra for
> the HUD technology, if it can really be described as such.

http://www.cafepress.com/dogs_of_war.74170825

> http://www.cafepress.com/dogs_of_war.74170825

OK, so now please tell us what Scottish dive computers
are on the market, hoseless air integrated please?!

> http://www.cafepress.com/dogs_of_war.74170825

OK, so now please tell us what Scottish dive computers
are on the market, hoseless air integrated please?!

> http://www.cafepress.com/dogs_of_war.74170825

OK, so now please tell us what Scottish dive computers
are on the market, hoseless air integrated please?!

> Sorry, I didn't mean to dig on you so much. I guess it was the way I
> perceived your post.

No worries

I just discovered that Cochran had a similar product, called
"Spectacle", which was apparently a true HUD mask. But they
stopped the project at some point, and it never came on
the market. I guess it's harder than one might think to
build something like that, or at least to do so at a price which
anyone except the military can afford (and maybe Exxon ).
Oceanic have also been announcing this since 2003 - so it'll be
interesting to see what reviews it gets when it finally does
appear.

David

> Sorry, I didn't mean to dig on you so much. I guess it was the way I
> perceived your post.

No worries

I just discovered that Cochran had a similar product, called
"Spectacle", which was apparently a true HUD mask. But they
stopped the project at some point, and it never came on
the market. I guess it's harder than one might think to
build something like that, or at least to do so at a price which
anyone except the military can afford (and maybe Exxon ).
Oceanic have also been announcing this since 2003 - so it'll be
interesting to see what reviews it gets when it finally does
appear.

David

> Sorry, I didn't mean to dig on you so much. I guess it was the way I
> perceived your post.

No worries

I just discovered that Cochran had a similar product, called
"Spectacle", which was apparently a true HUD mask. But they
stopped the project at some point, and it never came on
the market. I guess it's harder than one might think to
build something like that, or at least to do so at a price which
anyone except the military can afford (and maybe Exxon ).
Oceanic have also been announcing this since 2003 - so it'll be
interesting to see what reviews it gets when it finally does
appear.

David