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  #21  
Old 02-24-2007, 10:49 AM
jofrancis@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

On Feb 24, 10:29 am, Dan Bracuk <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote:
> jofran...@gmail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
>
> :I've been meaning to suggest that since you haven't tried a plate and
> :wing (or have you) you should borrow my 18# Halcyon when you're going
> :to dive the warmer climes. As much as it pains Scott Koplin I still
> :have the 2# SS plate he gave me and a lite adapter (also of his
> :manufacture). Together they make a helluva rig for warm water diving
> :and are very compact for travel. Let me know and I'll drop it off on
> :my next trip to the Big Smoke. There's a great feeling of freedom when
> :you belt up this rig.
>
> Thanks but no thanks. Luggage space is at a premium when we travel
> and they ain't that compact.


This one is. The plate is designed for travel and the wing folds up
nice and small. You could roll it all inside your bcd and not even
notice it. If you're down next summer remind to show you.

JF


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Old 02-26-2007, 11:13 AM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

Dan Bracuk wrote

> Thanks but no thanks. Luggage space is at a premium when we travel
> and they ain't that compact.


Actually, if you take it apart, a plate and small lift wing packs into a
smaller area than most standard jacket BCs. Soft plate or no plate designs,
like the Transpac, probably pack smaller, but not by much. If you want to
give one a try when you're down this way, let me know. I have three of
them, two in stainless and one in aluminum. The hot setup for most of us
warm water divers is a stainless plate with a light lift wing. Both of my
stainless plates are set up that way. I can use my 18 lift wing (which I
don't think is available any more) one while you use the 2 lb lift one
(which is more versatile and most often recommended for warm water, single
tank diving).

Lee


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Old 02-26-2007, 11:13 AM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

Dan Bracuk wrote

> Thanks but no thanks. Luggage space is at a premium when we travel
> and they ain't that compact.


Actually, if you take it apart, a plate and small lift wing packs into a
smaller area than most standard jacket BCs. Soft plate or no plate designs,
like the Transpac, probably pack smaller, but not by much. If you want to
give one a try when you're down this way, let me know. I have three of
them, two in stainless and one in aluminum. The hot setup for most of us
warm water divers is a stainless plate with a light lift wing. Both of my
stainless plates are set up that way. I can use my 18 lift wing (which I
don't think is available any more) one while you use the 2 lb lift one
(which is more versatile and most often recommended for warm water, single
tank diving).

Lee


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Old 02-26-2007, 11:13 AM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

Dan Bracuk wrote

> Thanks but no thanks. Luggage space is at a premium when we travel
> and they ain't that compact.


Actually, if you take it apart, a plate and small lift wing packs into a
smaller area than most standard jacket BCs. Soft plate or no plate designs,
like the Transpac, probably pack smaller, but not by much. If you want to
give one a try when you're down this way, let me know. I have three of
them, two in stainless and one in aluminum. The hot setup for most of us
warm water divers is a stainless plate with a light lift wing. Both of my
stainless plates are set up that way. I can use my 18 lift wing (which I
don't think is available any more) one while you use the 2 lb lift one
(which is more versatile and most often recommended for warm water, single
tank diving).

Lee


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Old 02-26-2007, 07:30 PM
Dan Bracuk
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:Dan Bracuk wrote
:
:> Thanks but no thanks. Luggage space is at a premium when we travel
:> and they ain't that compact.
:
:Actually, if you take it apart, a plate and small lift wing packs into a
:smaller area than most standard jacket BCs. Soft plate or no plate designs,
:like the Transpac, probably pack smaller, but not by much. If you want to
:give one a try when you're down this way, let me know.

For JOF, we are talking in addition to my own, not instead of.

For you, I'm always open minded, as long as it doesn't overweight me.
Without a hunka metal on my back, I use 4 lbs of lead.

Dan Bracuk
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:30 PM
Dan Bracuk
 
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"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:Dan Bracuk wrote
:
:> Thanks but no thanks. Luggage space is at a premium when we travel
:> and they ain't that compact.
:
:Actually, if you take it apart, a plate and small lift wing packs into a
:smaller area than most standard jacket BCs. Soft plate or no plate designs,
:like the Transpac, probably pack smaller, but not by much. If you want to
:give one a try when you're down this way, let me know.

For JOF, we are talking in addition to my own, not instead of.

For you, I'm always open minded, as long as it doesn't overweight me.
Without a hunka metal on my back, I use 4 lbs of lead.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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Old 02-26-2007, 07:30 PM
Dan Bracuk
 
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"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:Dan Bracuk wrote
:
:> Thanks but no thanks. Luggage space is at a premium when we travel
:> and they ain't that compact.
:
:Actually, if you take it apart, a plate and small lift wing packs into a
:smaller area than most standard jacket BCs. Soft plate or no plate designs,
:like the Transpac, probably pack smaller, but not by much. If you want to
:give one a try when you're down this way, let me know.

For JOF, we are talking in addition to my own, not instead of.

For you, I'm always open minded, as long as it doesn't overweight me.
Without a hunka metal on my back, I use 4 lbs of lead.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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Old 02-26-2007, 08:51 PM
Lee Bell
 
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Dan Bracuk wrote

> For you, I'm always open minded, as long as it doesn't overweight me.
> Without a hunka metal on my back, I use 4 lbs of lead.


If that's with a standard 80 in salt water, the steel back plate would
probably be too heavy for you. I have an aluminum one you're welcome to try
too. If it's in fresh water, you might still like the steel plate.

If my experience is a guide to what yours will be, you may find that you
need less, or even no lead with the aluminum plate and wing. I know that,
with the steel one, I took off more lead than the difference in weight
between my old SeaQuest Spectrum and the Halcyon Wing and plate. Theory is,
the jacket style BCDs trap more gas. I can't say for sure, but something
must have been to blame. At any rate, steel and aluminum are here if you'd
like to give them a try.

Lee


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Old 02-26-2007, 08:51 PM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

Dan Bracuk wrote

> For you, I'm always open minded, as long as it doesn't overweight me.
> Without a hunka metal on my back, I use 4 lbs of lead.


If that's with a standard 80 in salt water, the steel back plate would
probably be too heavy for you. I have an aluminum one you're welcome to try
too. If it's in fresh water, you might still like the steel plate.

If my experience is a guide to what yours will be, you may find that you
need less, or even no lead with the aluminum plate and wing. I know that,
with the steel one, I took off more lead than the difference in weight
between my old SeaQuest Spectrum and the Halcyon Wing and plate. Theory is,
the jacket style BCDs trap more gas. I can't say for sure, but something
must have been to blame. At any rate, steel and aluminum are here if you'd
like to give them a try.

Lee


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Old 02-26-2007, 08:51 PM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

Dan Bracuk wrote

> For you, I'm always open minded, as long as it doesn't overweight me.
> Without a hunka metal on my back, I use 4 lbs of lead.


If that's with a standard 80 in salt water, the steel back plate would
probably be too heavy for you. I have an aluminum one you're welcome to try
too. If it's in fresh water, you might still like the steel plate.

If my experience is a guide to what yours will be, you may find that you
need less, or even no lead with the aluminum plate and wing. I know that,
with the steel one, I took off more lead than the difference in weight
between my old SeaQuest Spectrum and the Halcyon Wing and plate. Theory is,
the jacket style BCDs trap more gas. I can't say for sure, but something
must have been to blame. At any rate, steel and aluminum are here if you'd
like to give them a try.

Lee


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