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Old 02-26-2007, 10:41 PM
Dan Bracuk
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:If my experience is a guide to what yours will be, you may find that you
:need less, or even no lead with the aluminum plate and wing. I know that,
:with the steel one, I took off more lead than the difference in weight
:between my old SeaQuest Spectrum and the Halcyon Wing and plate. Theory is,
:the jacket style BCDs trap more gas. I can't say for sure, but something
:must have been to blame. At any rate, steel and aluminum are here if you'd
:like to give them a try.

I heard of that gas trapping thing but never actually experienced it.
At least not that I noticed.

Dan Bracuk
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Old 02-26-2007, 10:41 PM
Dan Bracuk
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:If my experience is a guide to what yours will be, you may find that you
:need less, or even no lead with the aluminum plate and wing. I know that,
:with the steel one, I took off more lead than the difference in weight
:between my old SeaQuest Spectrum and the Halcyon Wing and plate. Theory is,
:the jacket style BCDs trap more gas. I can't say for sure, but something
:must have been to blame. At any rate, steel and aluminum are here if you'd
:like to give them a try.

I heard of that gas trapping thing but never actually experienced it.
At least not that I noticed.

Dan Bracuk
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Old 02-26-2007, 10:41 PM
Dan Bracuk
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:If my experience is a guide to what yours will be, you may find that you
:need less, or even no lead with the aluminum plate and wing. I know that,
:with the steel one, I took off more lead than the difference in weight
:between my old SeaQuest Spectrum and the Halcyon Wing and plate. Theory is,
:the jacket style BCDs trap more gas. I can't say for sure, but something
:must have been to blame. At any rate, steel and aluminum are here if you'd
:like to give them a try.

I heard of that gas trapping thing but never actually experienced it.
At least not that I noticed.

Dan Bracuk
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:55 AM
Lee Bell
 
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Dan Bracuk wrote

> I heard of that gas trapping thing but never actually experienced it.
> At least not that I noticed.


I didn't either, but it's the only way I can explain how I took 10 - 12 lbs
of lead off by the addition of a 6 lb stainless plate and maybe a 1 or 2 lb
single tank adapter. I suspect that the gas may have been trapped in the
hollow plastic back pack that's part of the jacket style BCD I used to wear.

Lee


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Old 02-27-2007, 07:55 AM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

Dan Bracuk wrote

> I heard of that gas trapping thing but never actually experienced it.
> At least not that I noticed.


I didn't either, but it's the only way I can explain how I took 10 - 12 lbs
of lead off by the addition of a 6 lb stainless plate and maybe a 1 or 2 lb
single tank adapter. I suspect that the gas may have been trapped in the
hollow plastic back pack that's part of the jacket style BCD I used to wear.

Lee


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Old 02-27-2007, 07:55 AM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???

Dan Bracuk wrote

> I heard of that gas trapping thing but never actually experienced it.
> At least not that I noticed.


I didn't either, but it's the only way I can explain how I took 10 - 12 lbs
of lead off by the addition of a 6 lb stainless plate and maybe a 1 or 2 lb
single tank adapter. I suspect that the gas may have been trapped in the
hollow plastic back pack that's part of the jacket style BCD I used to wear.

Lee


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Old 02-28-2007, 08:14 PM
Adam Helberg
 
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"Dan Bracuk" <bracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in message
news:f2a7u2p2easnqk4gokcksl5146avniv6eb@4ax.com...
> "Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
> resulting in:
>
> :If my experience is a guide to what yours will be, you may find that you
> :need less, or even no lead with the aluminum plate and wing. I know that,
> :with the steel one, I took off more lead than the difference in weight
> :between my old SeaQuest Spectrum and the Halcyon Wing and plate. Theory is,
> :the jacket style BCDs trap more gas. I can't say for sure, but something
> :must have been to blame. At any rate, steel and aluminum are here if you'd
> :like to give them a try.
>
> I heard of that gas trapping thing but never actually experienced it.
> At least not that I noticed.


It happens after eating lots of beans.


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Old 02-28-2007, 08:14 PM
Adam Helberg
 
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"Dan Bracuk" <bracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in message
news:f2a7u2p2easnqk4gokcksl5146avniv6eb@4ax.com...
> "Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
> resulting in:
>
> :If my experience is a guide to what yours will be, you may find that you
> :need less, or even no lead with the aluminum plate and wing. I know that,
> :with the steel one, I took off more lead than the difference in weight
> :between my old SeaQuest Spectrum and the Halcyon Wing and plate. Theory is,
> :the jacket style BCDs trap more gas. I can't say for sure, but something
> :must have been to blame. At any rate, steel and aluminum are here if you'd
> :like to give them a try.
>
> I heard of that gas trapping thing but never actually experienced it.
> At least not that I noticed.


It happens after eating lots of beans.


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Old 02-28-2007, 08:14 PM
Adam Helberg
 
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Default Re: Stab Jacket / BCD ???


"Dan Bracuk" <bracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in message
news:f2a7u2p2easnqk4gokcksl5146avniv6eb@4ax.com...
> "Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
> resulting in:
>
> :If my experience is a guide to what yours will be, you may find that you
> :need less, or even no lead with the aluminum plate and wing. I know that,
> :with the steel one, I took off more lead than the difference in weight
> :between my old SeaQuest Spectrum and the Halcyon Wing and plate. Theory is,
> :the jacket style BCDs trap more gas. I can't say for sure, but something
> :must have been to blame. At any rate, steel and aluminum are here if you'd
> :like to give them a try.
>
> I heard of that gas trapping thing but never actually experienced it.
> At least not that I noticed.


It happens after eating lots of beans.


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Old 03-01-2007, 01:37 PM
Adam Helberg
 
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"Lee Bell" <pleebell2@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:v8MEh.34702$p9.11113@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. .
> Dan Bracuk wrote
>
>> For you, I'm always open minded, as long as it doesn't overweight me.
>> Without a hunka metal on my back, I use 4 lbs of lead.

>
> If that's with a standard 80 in salt water, the steel back plate would probably be
> too heavy for you. I have an aluminum one you're welcome to try too. If it's in
> fresh water, you might still like the steel plate.
>
> If my experience is a guide to what yours will be, you may find that you need less,
> or even no lead with the aluminum plate and wing. I know that, with the steel one,
> I took off more lead than the difference in weight between my old SeaQuest Spectrum
> and the Halcyon Wing and plate. Theory is, the jacket style BCDs trap more gas. I
> can't say for sure, but something must have been to blame. At any rate, steel and
> aluminum are here if you'd like to give them a try.
>
> Lee


Hello Lee, I've heard this claim about gas trapping and dropping of weight with
plate/wing a number of times. A couple of years ago I changed from backplate to
Zeagle Escape ( a soft BC with a wing) and I've looked through my log book and in
identical conditions I see no difference in the amount of weight total I carry. When
I add the total weight including the plate and single tank adapter it works out the
same overall.

I wonder if the gas trapping takes place in BC that use a jacket bladder that wraps
around. I could see it happening there as it may be hard to purge all air. It's hard
to see how gas trapping can take place in a wing like in the Escape.

Adam


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