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  #21  
Old 04-05-2007, 10:25 AM
ben bradlee
 
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Default Re: Transplate?


"Art Greenberg" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
news:1319q3j3v2q9hd4@news.supernews.com...
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:56:01 -0500, ben bradlee wrote:
>>
>> "nuMNdvr" <bradrcole@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1175737108.613486.52440@l77g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >i was quoted a Halcyon BC today.
>> >
>> > Harness
>> > Backplate
>> > Single Tank Adapt.
>> > Eclipse 30 wing
>> > The Pocket dohickey that you put the surface signal in
>> >
>> > $680 - is that too much?

>>
>> What will you use this setup for? It's probably too much for warm
>> water and too little for cold water. The cost of $680 is then too
>> high. But, of course, if you have a suitable use for the gear the
>> price may be in line. It's hard to find deep discount on Halcyon
>> gear even on eBay.

>
> I use a similar setup (backplate isn't Halcyon) in warm and cold water,
> with a single LP 95. In cold water with a drysuit, in luke-cold water
> with a 7mm wetsuit, and in warm water with a 5mm wetsuit. Works fine in
> all three cases.
>


In warm water I use between 8 and 12 pounds of lead and a 16# Oxycheq wing.
That and an aluminum plate are compact and relatively light for travel. The
30# wing is somewhat bulkier and heavier. In cold water, with a drysuit, SS
backplate, and steel 95, I'll use between 22 and 44 pounds of lead depending
on the amount of insulation. While the 30# wing could serve for the low end
of the range, in cold water it would sink like a stone in most situations.
While I don't use the wing for floatation in cold water, it would be nice to
know it would work if the need arose. I use a 65# (I think) Halcyon wing in
cold water, although a unit somewhat smaller may be equally suitable. If
you get by with 30 that's great. I could also get by with the 30 without
any noticeable difference - unless something unexpected occurred.


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  #22  
Old 04-05-2007, 10:25 AM
ben bradlee
 
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Default Re: Transplate?


"Art Greenberg" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
news:1319q3j3v2q9hd4@news.supernews.com...
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:56:01 -0500, ben bradlee wrote:
>>
>> "nuMNdvr" <bradrcole@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1175737108.613486.52440@l77g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >i was quoted a Halcyon BC today.
>> >
>> > Harness
>> > Backplate
>> > Single Tank Adapt.
>> > Eclipse 30 wing
>> > The Pocket dohickey that you put the surface signal in
>> >
>> > $680 - is that too much?

>>
>> What will you use this setup for? It's probably too much for warm
>> water and too little for cold water. The cost of $680 is then too
>> high. But, of course, if you have a suitable use for the gear the
>> price may be in line. It's hard to find deep discount on Halcyon
>> gear even on eBay.

>
> I use a similar setup (backplate isn't Halcyon) in warm and cold water,
> with a single LP 95. In cold water with a drysuit, in luke-cold water
> with a 7mm wetsuit, and in warm water with a 5mm wetsuit. Works fine in
> all three cases.
>


In warm water I use between 8 and 12 pounds of lead and a 16# Oxycheq wing.
That and an aluminum plate are compact and relatively light for travel. The
30# wing is somewhat bulkier and heavier. In cold water, with a drysuit, SS
backplate, and steel 95, I'll use between 22 and 44 pounds of lead depending
on the amount of insulation. While the 30# wing could serve for the low end
of the range, in cold water it would sink like a stone in most situations.
While I don't use the wing for floatation in cold water, it would be nice to
know it would work if the need arose. I use a 65# (I think) Halcyon wing in
cold water, although a unit somewhat smaller may be equally suitable. If
you get by with 30 that's great. I could also get by with the 30 without
any noticeable difference - unless something unexpected occurred.


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  #23  
Old 04-05-2007, 09:01 PM
Art Greenberg
 
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Default Re: Transplate?

On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:56:01 -0500, ben bradlee wrote:
>
> "nuMNdvr" <bradrcole@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1175737108.613486.52440@l77g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> >i was quoted a Halcyon BC today.
> >
> > Harness
> > Backplate
> > Single Tank Adapt.
> > Eclipse 30 wing
> > The Pocket dohickey that you put the surface signal in
> >
> > $680 - is that too much?

>
> What will you use this setup for? It's probably too much for warm
> water and too little for cold water. The cost of $680 is then too
> high. But, of course, if you have a suitable use for the gear the
> price may be in line. It's hard to find deep discount on Halcyon
> gear even on eBay.


I use a similar setup (backplate isn't Halcyon) in warm and cold water,
with a single LP 95. In cold water with a drysuit, in luke-cold water
with a 7mm wetsuit, and in warm water with a 5mm wetsuit. Works fine in
all three cases.

I have no idea if its possible to do better on price these days. I've
had this rig for a long time, and it cost a lot less when I set it up.

--
Art Greenberg
artg at eclipse dot net

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  #24  
Old 04-05-2007, 09:01 PM
ben bradlee
 
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Default Re: Transplate?


"Art Greenberg" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
news:1319q3j3v2q9hd4@news.supernews.com...
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:56:01 -0500, ben bradlee wrote:
>>
>> "nuMNdvr" <bradrcole@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1175737108.613486.52440@l77g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >i was quoted a Halcyon BC today.
>> >
>> > Harness
>> > Backplate
>> > Single Tank Adapt.
>> > Eclipse 30 wing
>> > The Pocket dohickey that you put the surface signal in
>> >
>> > $680 - is that too much?

>>
>> What will you use this setup for? It's probably too much for warm
>> water and too little for cold water. The cost of $680 is then too
>> high. But, of course, if you have a suitable use for the gear the
>> price may be in line. It's hard to find deep discount on Halcyon
>> gear even on eBay.

>
> I use a similar setup (backplate isn't Halcyon) in warm and cold water,
> with a single LP 95. In cold water with a drysuit, in luke-cold water
> with a 7mm wetsuit, and in warm water with a 5mm wetsuit. Works fine in
> all three cases.
>


In warm water I use between 8 and 12 pounds of lead and a 16# Oxycheq wing.
That and an aluminum plate are compact and relatively light for travel. The
30# wing is somewhat bulkier and heavier. In cold water, with a drysuit, SS
backplate, and steel 95, I'll use between 22 and 44 pounds of lead depending
on the amount of insulation. While the 30# wing could serve for the low end
of the range, in cold water it would sink like a stone in most situations.
While I don't use the wing for floatation in cold water, it would be nice to
know it would work if the need arose. I use a 65# (I think) Halcyon wing in
cold water, although a unit somewhat smaller may be equally suitable. If
you get by with 30 that's great. I could also get by with the 30 without
any noticeable difference - unless something unexpected occurred.


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  #25  
Old 04-06-2007, 01:10 AM
Adam Helberg
 
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Default Re: Transplate?


"nuMNdvr" <bradrcole@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175737108.613486.52440@l77g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>i was quoted a Halcyon BC today.
>
> Harness
> Backplate
> Single Tank Adapt.
> Eclipse 30 wing
> The Pocket dohickey that you put the surface signal in
>
> $680 - is that too much?


I have a back plate system I'm not using, with the Pioneer wing, I'd sell for much
less.

Adam


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  #26  
Old 04-06-2007, 01:10 AM
Adam Helberg
 
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Default Re: Transplate?


"nuMNdvr" <bradrcole@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175737108.613486.52440@l77g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>i was quoted a Halcyon BC today.
>
> Harness
> Backplate
> Single Tank Adapt.
> Eclipse 30 wing
> The Pocket dohickey that you put the surface signal in
>
> $680 - is that too much?


I have a back plate system I'm not using, with the Pioneer wing, I'd sell for much
less.

Adam


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  #27  
Old 04-06-2007, 01:10 AM
Adam Helberg
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Transplate?


"nuMNdvr" <bradrcole@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175737108.613486.52440@l77g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>i was quoted a Halcyon BC today.
>
> Harness
> Backplate
> Single Tank Adapt.
> Eclipse 30 wing
> The Pocket dohickey that you put the surface signal in
>
> $680 - is that too much?


I have a back plate system I'm not using, with the Pioneer wing, I'd sell for much
less.

Adam


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  #28  
Old 04-07-2007, 01:12 AM
Adam Helberg
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Transplate?


"nuMNdvr" <bradrcole@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175737108.613486.52440@l77g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>i was quoted a Halcyon BC today.
>
> Harness
> Backplate
> Single Tank Adapt.
> Eclipse 30 wing
> The Pocket dohickey that you put the surface signal in
>
> $680 - is that too much?


I have a back plate system I'm not using, with the Pioneer wing, I'd sell for much
less.

Adam


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