Comparing Mares Nemo, Suunto Mosquito or D3

Greg Mossman wrote:
>
> My main (and maybe only) beef about the Suunto is about the way it
> handles receiving tank pressure from the transmitter unit....
>
> Technology has obviated big brick computers, as long as
> the display is still legible, but some people still believe bigger is
> better. Likewise, some prefer a hose connected to the computer to
> measure tank pressure even though wireless transmission has been
> perfected and can eliminate a bulky HP hose. Go figure.


"Perfected" perhaps in every way except as it was implimented, Greg?


Sounds like your Suunto lacks a "hey, I'm diving here" button to
command the system to go synch up with the wireless transmitter.

....or is the problem that the wireless transmitter saw no change over
X period of time (including a cessation of queries from the receiver)
and stopped transmitting?


IMO, wireless transmission systems are almost there, but it still puts
part of the package on your wrist. I've seen far more wristmount
computers take a bounce off the deck than hose-mount


-hh

Greg Mossman wrote:
>
> My main (and maybe only) beef about the Suunto is about the way it
> handles receiving tank pressure from the transmitter unit....
>
> Technology has obviated big brick computers, as long as
> the display is still legible, but some people still believe bigger is
> better. Likewise, some prefer a hose connected to the computer to
> measure tank pressure even though wireless transmission has been
> perfected and can eliminate a bulky HP hose. Go figure.


"Perfected" perhaps in every way except as it was implimented, Greg?


Sounds like your Suunto lacks a "hey, I'm diving here" button to
command the system to go synch up with the wireless transmitter.

....or is the problem that the wireless transmitter saw no change over
X period of time (including a cessation of queries from the receiver)
and stopped transmitting?


IMO, wireless transmission systems are almost there, but it still puts
part of the package on your wrist. I've seen far more wristmount
computers take a bounce off the deck than hose-mount


-hh

On Jun 17, 5:07 am, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> Greg Mossman wrote:
>
> > My main (and maybe only) beef about the Suunto is about the way it
> > handles receiving tank pressure from the transmitter unit....
>
> > Technology has obviated big brick computers, as long as
> > the display is still legible, but some people still believe bigger is
> > better. Likewise, some prefer a hose connected to the computer to
> > measure tank pressure even though wireless transmission has been
> > perfected and can eliminate a bulky HP hose. Go figure.
>
> "Perfected" perhaps in every way except as it was implimented, Greg?

Blame those crazy Finns. I curse them loudly whenever it occurs. I
have two other hoseless AI computers that don't lose their synch, one
Swiss and one Texan, but I still prefer the faulty Finnish 'cause it
looks a lot prettier. Say what you want about the Finns, but they at
least have a lot more style than the Swiss and especially the Texans
(like all Texans, Cochran's motto is "bigger is better").

> Sounds like your Suunto lacks a "hey, I'm diving here" button to
> command the system to go synch up with the wireless transmitter.
>
> ...or is the problem that the wireless transmitter saw no change over
> X period of time (including a cessation of queries from the receiver)
> and stopped transmitting?

I should probably dig further and see what I can find out, but so far
it's only a minor annoyance - maybe the manual addresses the issue,
but since I got mine grey-market from Leisure Pro, the manual is all
in Spanish.

It's only a problem on the surface. As long as it's working when I
descend, it continues to work perfectly during the dive. The DIR
philosophy teaches us to ignore surface concerns. Apparently Suunto
is very DIR.

> IMO, wireless transmission systems are almost there, but it still puts
> part of the package on your wrist. I've seen far more wristmount
> computers take a bounce off the deck than hose-mount

I've seen far more hose-mount computers/gauges bouncing off the reef,
as they dangle unclipped from their oblivious hosts. If you see my
computer taking a bounce off the deck, my arm is probably attached to
it. If that's the case, call 911 and tell them to look for a big
hairy guy who likes to break bricks. He's "armed" and dangerous.

On Jun 17, 5:07 am, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> Greg Mossman wrote:
>
> > My main (and maybe only) beef about the Suunto is about the way it
> > handles receiving tank pressure from the transmitter unit....
>
> > Technology has obviated big brick computers, as long as
> > the display is still legible, but some people still believe bigger is
> > better. Likewise, some prefer a hose connected to the computer to
> > measure tank pressure even though wireless transmission has been
> > perfected and can eliminate a bulky HP hose. Go figure.
>
> "Perfected" perhaps in every way except as it was implimented, Greg?

Blame those crazy Finns. I curse them loudly whenever it occurs. I
have two other hoseless AI computers that don't lose their synch, one
Swiss and one Texan, but I still prefer the faulty Finnish 'cause it
looks a lot prettier. Say what you want about the Finns, but they at
least have a lot more style than the Swiss and especially the Texans
(like all Texans, Cochran's motto is "bigger is better").

> Sounds like your Suunto lacks a "hey, I'm diving here" button to
> command the system to go synch up with the wireless transmitter.
>
> ...or is the problem that the wireless transmitter saw no change over
> X period of time (including a cessation of queries from the receiver)
> and stopped transmitting?

I should probably dig further and see what I can find out, but so far
it's only a minor annoyance - maybe the manual addresses the issue,
but since I got mine grey-market from Leisure Pro, the manual is all
in Spanish.

It's only a problem on the surface. As long as it's working when I
descend, it continues to work perfectly during the dive. The DIR
philosophy teaches us to ignore surface concerns. Apparently Suunto
is very DIR.

> IMO, wireless transmission systems are almost there, but it still puts
> part of the package on your wrist. I've seen far more wristmount
> computers take a bounce off the deck than hose-mount

I've seen far more hose-mount computers/gauges bouncing off the reef,
as they dangle unclipped from their oblivious hosts. If you see my
computer taking a bounce off the deck, my arm is probably attached to
it. If that's the case, call 911 and tell them to look for a big
hairy guy who likes to break bricks. He's "armed" and dangerous.

On Jun 17, 5:07 am, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> Greg Mossman wrote:
>
> > My main (and maybe only) beef about the Suunto is about the way it
> > handles receiving tank pressure from the transmitter unit....
>
> > Technology has obviated big brick computers, as long as
> > the display is still legible, but some people still believe bigger is
> > better. Likewise, some prefer a hose connected to the computer to
> > measure tank pressure even though wireless transmission has been
> > perfected and can eliminate a bulky HP hose. Go figure.
>
> "Perfected" perhaps in every way except as it was implimented, Greg?

Blame those crazy Finns. I curse them loudly whenever it occurs. I
have two other hoseless AI computers that don't lose their synch, one
Swiss and one Texan, but I still prefer the faulty Finnish 'cause it
looks a lot prettier. Say what you want about the Finns, but they at
least have a lot more style than the Swiss and especially the Texans
(like all Texans, Cochran's motto is "bigger is better").

> Sounds like your Suunto lacks a "hey, I'm diving here" button to
> command the system to go synch up with the wireless transmitter.
>
> ...or is the problem that the wireless transmitter saw no change over
> X period of time (including a cessation of queries from the receiver)
> and stopped transmitting?

I should probably dig further and see what I can find out, but so far
it's only a minor annoyance - maybe the manual addresses the issue,
but since I got mine grey-market from Leisure Pro, the manual is all
in Spanish.

It's only a problem on the surface. As long as it's working when I
descend, it continues to work perfectly during the dive. The DIR
philosophy teaches us to ignore surface concerns. Apparently Suunto
is very DIR.

> IMO, wireless transmission systems are almost there, but it still puts
> part of the package on your wrist. I've seen far more wristmount
> computers take a bounce off the deck than hose-mount

I've seen far more hose-mount computers/gauges bouncing off the reef,
as they dangle unclipped from their oblivious hosts. If you see my
computer taking a bounce off the deck, my arm is probably attached to
it. If that's the case, call 911 and tell them to look for a big
hairy guy who likes to break bricks. He's "armed" and dangerous.

On Jun 17, 5:07 am, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> Greg Mossman wrote:
>
> > My main (and maybe only) beef about the Suunto is about the way it
> > handles receiving tank pressure from the transmitter unit....
>
> > Technology has obviated big brick computers, as long as
> > the display is still legible, but some people still believe bigger is
> > better. Likewise, some prefer a hose connected to the computer to
> > measure tank pressure even though wireless transmission has been
> > perfected and can eliminate a bulky HP hose. Go figure.
>
> "Perfected" perhaps in every way except as it was implimented, Greg?

Blame those crazy Finns. I curse them loudly whenever it occurs. I
have two other hoseless AI computers that don't lose their synch, one
Swiss and one Texan, but I still prefer the faulty Finnish 'cause it
looks a lot prettier. Say what you want about the Finns, but they at
least have a lot more style than the Swiss and especially the Texans
(like all Texans, Cochran's motto is "bigger is better").

> Sounds like your Suunto lacks a "hey, I'm diving here" button to
> command the system to go synch up with the wireless transmitter.
>
> ...or is the problem that the wireless transmitter saw no change over
> X period of time (including a cessation of queries from the receiver)
> and stopped transmitting?

I should probably dig further and see what I can find out, but so far
it's only a minor annoyance - maybe the manual addresses the issue,
but since I got mine grey-market from Leisure Pro, the manual is all
in Spanish.

It's only a problem on the surface. As long as it's working when I
descend, it continues to work perfectly during the dive. The DIR
philosophy teaches us to ignore surface concerns. Apparently Suunto
is very DIR.

> IMO, wireless transmission systems are almost there, but it still puts
> part of the package on your wrist. I've seen far more wristmount
> computers take a bounce off the deck than hose-mount

I've seen far more hose-mount computers/gauges bouncing off the reef,
as they dangle unclipped from their oblivious hosts. If you see my
computer taking a bounce off the deck, my arm is probably attached to
it. If that's the case, call 911 and tell them to look for a big
hairy guy who likes to break bricks. He's "armed" and dangerous.

If you end up with a Suunto check out http://www.macdivelog.com

I use Mac Divelog and a USB cable that I purchased on Ebay for
connecting my Mosquito to my MacBook Pro. Works great.

For Linux do a search at http://freshmeat.net for "scuba"

I've been using my Mosquito for about a year now and I really like it.

Eggy


> As a Linux and Apple Mac user, I do not have access to a Windows PC. Are
> there any options for me to be able to download dive profiles or other
> stats from these watches to either of my computers? If not, can I access
> the data on the watch screen and write it down by hand instead?
>
> Finally, are there other manufacturers and models of dive watch I should
> be considering?

If you end up with a Suunto check out http://www.macdivelog.com

I use Mac Divelog and a USB cable that I purchased on Ebay for
connecting my Mosquito to my MacBook Pro. Works great.

For Linux do a search at http://freshmeat.net for "scuba"

I've been using my Mosquito for about a year now and I really like it.

Eggy


> As a Linux and Apple Mac user, I do not have access to a Windows PC. Are
> there any options for me to be able to download dive profiles or other
> stats from these watches to either of my computers? If not, can I access
> the data on the watch screen and write it down by hand instead?
>
> Finally, are there other manufacturers and models of dive watch I should
> be considering?

If you end up with a Suunto check out http://www.macdivelog.com

I use Mac Divelog and a USB cable that I purchased on Ebay for
connecting my Mosquito to my MacBook Pro. Works great.

For Linux do a search at http://freshmeat.net for "scuba"

I've been using my Mosquito for about a year now and I really like it.

Eggy


> As a Linux and Apple Mac user, I do not have access to a Windows PC. Are
> there any options for me to be able to download dive profiles or other
> stats from these watches to either of my computers? If not, can I access
> the data on the watch screen and write it down by hand instead?
>
> Finally, are there other manufacturers and models of dive watch I should
> be considering?

If you end up with a Suunto check out http://www.macdivelog.com

I use Mac Divelog and a USB cable that I purchased on Ebay for
connecting my Mosquito to my MacBook Pro. Works great.

For Linux do a search at http://freshmeat.net for "scuba"

I've been using my Mosquito for about a year now and I really like it.

Eggy


> As a Linux and Apple Mac user, I do not have access to a Windows PC. Are
> there any options for me to be able to download dive profiles or other
> stats from these watches to either of my computers? If not, can I access
> the data on the watch screen and write it down by hand instead?
>
> Finally, are there other manufacturers and models of dive watch I should
> be considering?