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  #21  
Old 11-22-2007, 11:31 PM
CB
 
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Default Re: Are scooters just a novelty or do people keep them because they book, cheap to maintain and last a lifetime?

I may have found one I can afford, it's the Torpedo 3500 Scooter for $915.00

It goes 3.3 mph

http://www.leisurepro.com/Prod/TOR35...%3d0%26Hit%3d1



"CB" <CB@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
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>I axed Santa for a scooter for Christmas. Are they a novelty in which
>people get tired of them or they have expensive proprietary batteries to
>replace. Do they breakdown all the time?
>
> CB
> Have a great thanksgiving, we all have a lot to be thankful for, that 'is'
> if your humble before Thee Creator.
>



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  #22  
Old 11-23-2007, 06:25 AM
marcin dobrucki
 
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Default Re: Are scooters just a novelty or do people keep them because theybook, cheap to maintain and last a lifetime?

CB wrote:
> I may have found one I can afford, it's the Torpedo 3500 Scooter for $915.00
>
> It goes 3.3 mph
>
> http://www.leisurepro.com/Prod/TOR35...%3d0%26Hit%3d1


I've "driven" both a Silent Submerge longbody and SeaDoo Explorer.
Both were fun, and are a godsend when you need to cover distance (both
on surface and underwater). If I could afford one, the SS would be a
definite choice for me. At 700¤, the SeaDoo is not a bad deal. Battery
will last about 2h with rec-gear and warm water (just over an hour with
tech gear in cold water), has decent speed, but on the downside, the
handles are too much in front, and make the two-behind scootering a bit
hard. The older SeaDoos are more of a toy thing with 20m max depth, and
limited battery life. Avoid the cheap chinese immitations at all costs.
Most are not even waterproof.

/m
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  #23  
Old 11-23-2007, 06:25 AM
marcin dobrucki
 
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Default Re: Are scooters just a novelty or do people keep them because theybook, cheap to maintain and last a lifetime?

CB wrote:
> I may have found one I can afford, it's the Torpedo 3500 Scooter for $915.00
>
> It goes 3.3 mph
>
> http://www.leisurepro.com/Prod/TOR35...%3d0%26Hit%3d1


I've "driven" both a Silent Submerge longbody and SeaDoo Explorer.
Both were fun, and are a godsend when you need to cover distance (both
on surface and underwater). If I could afford one, the SS would be a
definite choice for me. At 700¤, the SeaDoo is not a bad deal. Battery
will last about 2h with rec-gear and warm water (just over an hour with
tech gear in cold water), has decent speed, but on the downside, the
handles are too much in front, and make the two-behind scootering a bit
hard. The older SeaDoos are more of a toy thing with 20m max depth, and
limited battery life. Avoid the cheap chinese immitations at all costs.
Most are not even waterproof.

/m
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  #24  
Old 11-23-2007, 06:25 AM
marcin dobrucki
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Are scooters just a novelty or do people keep them because theybook, cheap to maintain and last a lifetime?

CB wrote:
> I may have found one I can afford, it's the Torpedo 3500 Scooter for $915.00
>
> It goes 3.3 mph
>
> http://www.leisurepro.com/Prod/TOR35...%3d0%26Hit%3d1


I've "driven" both a Silent Submerge longbody and SeaDoo Explorer.
Both were fun, and are a godsend when you need to cover distance (both
on surface and underwater). If I could afford one, the SS would be a
definite choice for me. At 700¤, the SeaDoo is not a bad deal. Battery
will last about 2h with rec-gear and warm water (just over an hour with
tech gear in cold water), has decent speed, but on the downside, the
handles are too much in front, and make the two-behind scootering a bit
hard. The older SeaDoos are more of a toy thing with 20m max depth, and
limited battery life. Avoid the cheap chinese immitations at all costs.
Most are not even waterproof.

/m
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  #25  
Old 11-23-2007, 06:25 AM
marcin dobrucki
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Are scooters just a novelty or do people keep them because theybook, cheap to maintain and last a lifetime?

CB wrote:
> I may have found one I can afford, it's the Torpedo 3500 Scooter for $915.00
>
> It goes 3.3 mph
>
> http://www.leisurepro.com/Prod/TOR35...%3d0%26Hit%3d1


I've "driven" both a Silent Submerge longbody and SeaDoo Explorer.
Both were fun, and are a godsend when you need to cover distance (both
on surface and underwater). If I could afford one, the SS would be a
definite choice for me. At 700¤, the SeaDoo is not a bad deal. Battery
will last about 2h with rec-gear and warm water (just over an hour with
tech gear in cold water), has decent speed, but on the downside, the
handles are too much in front, and make the two-behind scootering a bit
hard. The older SeaDoos are more of a toy thing with 20m max depth, and
limited battery life. Avoid the cheap chinese immitations at all costs.
Most are not even waterproof.

/m
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  #26  
Old 11-23-2007, 11:03 AM
CB
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Are scooters just a novelty or do people keep them because they book, cheap to maintain and last a lifetime?

I just ordered a Torpedo 3500 $915 w/tote bag $60, no sales tax but there
was a shipping fee attached when the web site said there was none




"CB" <CB@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
news:474585ad$0$24300$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Thanks for all the information, it's most helpful
>
>
>
> <srscubalot@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6678ec6a-0baa-4adf-9e1b-816b48acf720@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 21, 9:16 pm, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>> I axed Santa for a scooter for Christmas. Are they a novelty in which
>>> people
>>> get tired of them or they have expensive proprietary batteries to
>>> replace.
>>> Do they breakdown all the time?
>>>
>>> CB

>>
>> I,ve been using DPV's now for about ten years. My first scooter was
>> an old TEKNA that I bought for $500. I was hooked after my first dive
>> with it, and have never regretted it. The TEKNA was a great scooter,
>> the engineers nearly got it right, with the exception of the bouyancy
>> characteristics. It was a bit too negative in the nose, but this was
>> easily remedied by a simple modification of attaching capped PVC
>> tubing to the nose handle.
>>
>> My second scooter was a used MAKO that I purchased for $1000. The
>> MAKO was actually an improved version of the TEKNA with better
>> bouyancy characteristics, no PVC tubes neccessary. However, the
>> engineers decided to add an uneccessary feature into the MAKO, a
>> battery charge indicator port. Unfortunately, the indicator port
>> would sometimes develop a leak directly into the motor compartment,
>> which in salt water would be disasterous. Being aware of the problem,
>> immediately after purchasing the scooter, I removed the electronics
>> from the indicator port and plugged the port with marine epoxy.
>> Consiquently my MAKO never developed a leak.
>>
>> My third and final DPV purchase was a GAVIN built by George Ervine of
>> the WKPP divers in Florida (www.gavinscootersfl.com). At a cost of
>> $3500 they are expensive. But, in my opinion worth every penny. They
>> are built like a tank, and will last a recreational diver a lifetime.
>> They hold up well to the punishment of wreck diving off of charter
>> boats. And most importantly, NO engineering flaws!
>>
>> As for the batteries, all of the above mentioned scooters utilize the
>> same style battery. Two 12V - 18Amp Gell Cells wired together for 24V
>> - 36 Amp Hour. They are widely available at any Battery Wharehouse
>> store. They cost about $60 each, so a set would be $120. And, you
>> can expect to get about 200 charge cycles out of a set of batteries.
>>
>> The biggest problem you are likely to have with the purchase of a
>> scooter is, convinsing your dive buddies to do likewise. That is
>> until you let them use yours :)
>>

>
>



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  #27  
Old 11-23-2007, 11:03 AM
CB
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Are scooters just a novelty or do people keep them because they book, cheap to maintain and last a lifetime?

I just ordered a Torpedo 3500 $915 w/tote bag $60, no sales tax but there
was a shipping fee attached when the web site said there was none




"CB" <CB@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
news:474585ad$0$24300$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Thanks for all the information, it's most helpful
>
>
>
> <srscubalot@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6678ec6a-0baa-4adf-9e1b-816b48acf720@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 21, 9:16 pm, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>> I axed Santa for a scooter for Christmas. Are they a novelty in which
>>> people
>>> get tired of them or they have expensive proprietary batteries to
>>> replace.
>>> Do they breakdown all the time?
>>>
>>> CB

>>
>> I,ve been using DPV's now for about ten years. My first scooter was
>> an old TEKNA that I bought for $500. I was hooked after my first dive
>> with it, and have never regretted it. The TEKNA was a great scooter,
>> the engineers nearly got it right, with the exception of the bouyancy
>> characteristics. It was a bit too negative in the nose, but this was
>> easily remedied by a simple modification of attaching capped PVC
>> tubing to the nose handle.
>>
>> My second scooter was a used MAKO that I purchased for $1000. The
>> MAKO was actually an improved version of the TEKNA with better
>> bouyancy characteristics, no PVC tubes neccessary. However, the
>> engineers decided to add an uneccessary feature into the MAKO, a
>> battery charge indicator port. Unfortunately, the indicator port
>> would sometimes develop a leak directly into the motor compartment,
>> which in salt water would be disasterous. Being aware of the problem,
>> immediately after purchasing the scooter, I removed the electronics
>> from the indicator port and plugged the port with marine epoxy.
>> Consiquently my MAKO never developed a leak.
>>
>> My third and final DPV purchase was a GAVIN built by George Ervine of
>> the WKPP divers in Florida (www.gavinscootersfl.com). At a cost of
>> $3500 they are expensive. But, in my opinion worth every penny. They
>> are built like a tank, and will last a recreational diver a lifetime.
>> They hold up well to the punishment of wreck diving off of charter
>> boats. And most importantly, NO engineering flaws!
>>
>> As for the batteries, all of the above mentioned scooters utilize the
>> same style battery. Two 12V - 18Amp Gell Cells wired together for 24V
>> - 36 Amp Hour. They are widely available at any Battery Wharehouse
>> store. They cost about $60 each, so a set would be $120. And, you
>> can expect to get about 200 charge cycles out of a set of batteries.
>>
>> The biggest problem you are likely to have with the purchase of a
>> scooter is, convinsing your dive buddies to do likewise. That is
>> until you let them use yours :)
>>

>
>



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  #28  
Old 11-23-2007, 11:03 AM
CB
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Are scooters just a novelty or do people keep them because they book, cheap to maintain and last a lifetime?

I just ordered a Torpedo 3500 $915 w/tote bag $60, no sales tax but there
was a shipping fee attached when the web site said there was none




"CB" <CB@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
news:474585ad$0$24300$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Thanks for all the information, it's most helpful
>
>
>
> <srscubalot@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6678ec6a-0baa-4adf-9e1b-816b48acf720@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 21, 9:16 pm, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>> I axed Santa for a scooter for Christmas. Are they a novelty in which
>>> people
>>> get tired of them or they have expensive proprietary batteries to
>>> replace.
>>> Do they breakdown all the time?
>>>
>>> CB

>>
>> I,ve been using DPV's now for about ten years. My first scooter was
>> an old TEKNA that I bought for $500. I was hooked after my first dive
>> with it, and have never regretted it. The TEKNA was a great scooter,
>> the engineers nearly got it right, with the exception of the bouyancy
>> characteristics. It was a bit too negative in the nose, but this was
>> easily remedied by a simple modification of attaching capped PVC
>> tubing to the nose handle.
>>
>> My second scooter was a used MAKO that I purchased for $1000. The
>> MAKO was actually an improved version of the TEKNA with better
>> bouyancy characteristics, no PVC tubes neccessary. However, the
>> engineers decided to add an uneccessary feature into the MAKO, a
>> battery charge indicator port. Unfortunately, the indicator port
>> would sometimes develop a leak directly into the motor compartment,
>> which in salt water would be disasterous. Being aware of the problem,
>> immediately after purchasing the scooter, I removed the electronics
>> from the indicator port and plugged the port with marine epoxy.
>> Consiquently my MAKO never developed a leak.
>>
>> My third and final DPV purchase was a GAVIN built by George Ervine of
>> the WKPP divers in Florida (www.gavinscootersfl.com). At a cost of
>> $3500 they are expensive. But, in my opinion worth every penny. They
>> are built like a tank, and will last a recreational diver a lifetime.
>> They hold up well to the punishment of wreck diving off of charter
>> boats. And most importantly, NO engineering flaws!
>>
>> As for the batteries, all of the above mentioned scooters utilize the
>> same style battery. Two 12V - 18Amp Gell Cells wired together for 24V
>> - 36 Amp Hour. They are widely available at any Battery Wharehouse
>> store. They cost about $60 each, so a set would be $120. And, you
>> can expect to get about 200 charge cycles out of a set of batteries.
>>
>> The biggest problem you are likely to have with the purchase of a
>> scooter is, convinsing your dive buddies to do likewise. That is
>> until you let them use yours :)
>>

>
>



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  #29  
Old 11-23-2007, 11:03 AM
CB
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Are scooters just a novelty or do people keep them because they book, cheap to maintain and last a lifetime?

I just ordered a Torpedo 3500 $915 w/tote bag $60, no sales tax but there
was a shipping fee attached when the web site said there was none




"CB" <CB@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
news:474585ad$0$24300$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Thanks for all the information, it's most helpful
>
>
>
> <srscubalot@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6678ec6a-0baa-4adf-9e1b-816b48acf720@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 21, 9:16 pm, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>> I axed Santa for a scooter for Christmas. Are they a novelty in which
>>> people
>>> get tired of them or they have expensive proprietary batteries to
>>> replace.
>>> Do they breakdown all the time?
>>>
>>> CB

>>
>> I,ve been using DPV's now for about ten years. My first scooter was
>> an old TEKNA that I bought for $500. I was hooked after my first dive
>> with it, and have never regretted it. The TEKNA was a great scooter,
>> the engineers nearly got it right, with the exception of the bouyancy
>> characteristics. It was a bit too negative in the nose, but this was
>> easily remedied by a simple modification of attaching capped PVC
>> tubing to the nose handle.
>>
>> My second scooter was a used MAKO that I purchased for $1000. The
>> MAKO was actually an improved version of the TEKNA with better
>> bouyancy characteristics, no PVC tubes neccessary. However, the
>> engineers decided to add an uneccessary feature into the MAKO, a
>> battery charge indicator port. Unfortunately, the indicator port
>> would sometimes develop a leak directly into the motor compartment,
>> which in salt water would be disasterous. Being aware of the problem,
>> immediately after purchasing the scooter, I removed the electronics
>> from the indicator port and plugged the port with marine epoxy.
>> Consiquently my MAKO never developed a leak.
>>
>> My third and final DPV purchase was a GAVIN built by George Ervine of
>> the WKPP divers in Florida (www.gavinscootersfl.com). At a cost of
>> $3500 they are expensive. But, in my opinion worth every penny. They
>> are built like a tank, and will last a recreational diver a lifetime.
>> They hold up well to the punishment of wreck diving off of charter
>> boats. And most importantly, NO engineering flaws!
>>
>> As for the batteries, all of the above mentioned scooters utilize the
>> same style battery. Two 12V - 18Amp Gell Cells wired together for 24V
>> - 36 Amp Hour. They are widely available at any Battery Wharehouse
>> store. They cost about $60 each, so a set would be $120. And, you
>> can expect to get about 200 charge cycles out of a set of batteries.
>>
>> The biggest problem you are likely to have with the purchase of a
>> scooter is, convinsing your dive buddies to do likewise. That is
>> until you let them use yours :)
>>

>
>



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Old 11-23-2007, 12:01 PM
srscubalot@comcast.net
 
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Default Re: Are scooters just a novelty or do people keep them because theybook, cheap to maintain and last a lifetime?

On Nov 23, 11:03 am, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> I just ordered a Torpedo 3500 $915 w/tote bag $60, no sales tax but there
> was a shipping fee attached when the web site said there was none
>


Congratulations CB, I personally do not have any experience with the
Torpedo. But it is my understanding that they are rugged and
reliable.
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