Article in March 2006 issue of Scuba Diving

sytech@yahoo.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:Towards the end of the article the author advocated that because of all
:these" theoretical" problems that could develop, it's probably not a
:good idea for many people to board the boat with all that heavy gear on
:because the effort required could excerbate any nitrogen retension
:issues that may be at play.
:
:Any thoughts on that?
:

That's overstated to say the least.

Coming out of the water with or with your rig depends largely on the
boat.

In the case of a zodiac, you pretty well have to doff your rig or you
simply won't be able to pull yourself up. It's hard enough as it is
without gear.

At the other extreme, are liveaboard with very nice ladders at the
back. In these cases, doffing your gear in the water takes more
energy than climbing the ladder with it on.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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sytech@yahoo.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:Towards the end of the article the author advocated that because of all
:these" theoretical" problems that could develop, it's probably not a
:good idea for many people to board the boat with all that heavy gear on
:because the effort required could excerbate any nitrogen retension
:issues that may be at play.
:
:Any thoughts on that?
:

That's overstated to say the least.

Coming out of the water with or with your rig depends largely on the
boat.

In the case of a zodiac, you pretty well have to doff your rig or you
simply won't be able to pull yourself up. It's hard enough as it is
without gear.

At the other extreme, are liveaboard with very nice ladders at the
back. In these cases, doffing your gear in the water takes more
energy than climbing the ladder with it on.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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sytech@yahoo.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:Towards the end of the article the author advocated that because of all
:these" theoretical" problems that could develop, it's probably not a
:good idea for many people to board the boat with all that heavy gear on
:because the effort required could excerbate any nitrogen retension
:issues that may be at play.
:
:Any thoughts on that?
:

That's overstated to say the least.

Coming out of the water with or with your rig depends largely on the
boat.

In the case of a zodiac, you pretty well have to doff your rig or you
simply won't be able to pull yourself up. It's hard enough as it is
without gear.

At the other extreme, are liveaboard with very nice ladders at the
back. In these cases, doffing your gear in the water takes more
energy than climbing the ladder with it on.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

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Thus spake sytech@yahoo.com :

>Dan,
>
>I don't have the article handy but it just "seemed" that maybe the
>author's emphasis on "theroretical" problems might have been overstated
>but I've heard enough here to get the point.

I want to live in Theory. Everything works in Theory.

>
>Towards the end of the article the author advocated that because of all
>these" theoretical" problems that could develop, it's probably not a
>good idea for many people to board the boat with all that heavy gear on
>because the effort required could excerbate any nitrogen retension
>issues that may be at play.

The amount of exertion is minimal. I wouldn't do those 100 pushups
immediately aftwards, but climbing out of the water certainly won't do
anything to most people who were at least a little concious of their
nitrogen loading. And the others are going to get hit one way or
another anyways.

>
>Any thoughts on that?

Be aware of your nitrogen. As a newbie, I'd recommend diving well
within the tables. More room for error when you do screw up, and you
will.

>
>Sy
--
dillon

I didn't climb to the top of the
food chain to become a vegetartian.

Thus spake sytech@yahoo.com :

>Dan,
>
>I don't have the article handy but it just "seemed" that maybe the
>author's emphasis on "theroretical" problems might have been overstated
>but I've heard enough here to get the point.

I want to live in Theory. Everything works in Theory.

>
>Towards the end of the article the author advocated that because of all
>these" theoretical" problems that could develop, it's probably not a
>good idea for many people to board the boat with all that heavy gear on
>because the effort required could excerbate any nitrogen retension
>issues that may be at play.

The amount of exertion is minimal. I wouldn't do those 100 pushups
immediately aftwards, but climbing out of the water certainly won't do
anything to most people who were at least a little concious of their
nitrogen loading. And the others are going to get hit one way or
another anyways.

>
>Any thoughts on that?

Be aware of your nitrogen. As a newbie, I'd recommend diving well
within the tables. More room for error when you do screw up, and you
will.

>
>Sy
--
dillon

I didn't climb to the top of the
food chain to become a vegetartian.

Thus spake sytech@yahoo.com :

>Dan,
>
>I don't have the article handy but it just "seemed" that maybe the
>author's emphasis on "theroretical" problems might have been overstated
>but I've heard enough here to get the point.

I want to live in Theory. Everything works in Theory.

>
>Towards the end of the article the author advocated that because of all
>these" theoretical" problems that could develop, it's probably not a
>good idea for many people to board the boat with all that heavy gear on
>because the effort required could excerbate any nitrogen retension
>issues that may be at play.

The amount of exertion is minimal. I wouldn't do those 100 pushups
immediately aftwards, but climbing out of the water certainly won't do
anything to most people who were at least a little concious of their
nitrogen loading. And the others are going to get hit one way or
another anyways.

>
>Any thoughts on that?

Be aware of your nitrogen. As a newbie, I'd recommend diving well
within the tables. More room for error when you do screw up, and you
will.

>
>Sy
--
dillon

I didn't climb to the top of the
food chain to become a vegetartian.

Having 42 years of diving, including using no BC (didn't exist - now I have
one) and using a single stage regulator (now I have a 2 stage), I can only say
that when you are ascending, just breathe out. I don't understand the group
of people in the world that are totally anal in everything they do. Perhaps
they have nothing better to do with their life than compute numbers. I'd
rather just enjoy what I do without this kind of nonsence. (Perhaps Scuba
Diving is running out of articles - I cancelled them because of lack of
interest on my part)

Just exhale (normal breathing) and you won't have any problems. Enjoy diving.

Stan



<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Was wondering what opinions people had about the article in March 2006àissue
of Scuba Diving, page 83, "The Final Ascent".#The point the author makes is
that "the trickiest part of your dive
might come after the safety stop".
Being a relative newbie I#certainly have to defer to the author but there was
a sense I had that
there may have been a bit of overstating certain
"potential" problems.�sWas wondering what you more experienced folks
thought.“vSyÕv-- sPlease post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com

Having 42 years of diving, including using no BC (didn't exist - now I have
one) and using a single stage regulator (now I have a 2 stage), I can only say
that when you are ascending, just breathe out. I don't understand the group
of people in the world that are totally anal in everything they do. Perhaps
they have nothing better to do with their life than compute numbers. I'd
rather just enjoy what I do without this kind of nonsence. (Perhaps Scuba
Diving is running out of articles - I cancelled them because of lack of
interest on my part)

Just exhale (normal breathing) and you won't have any problems. Enjoy diving.

Stan



<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Was wondering what opinions people had about the article in March 2006àissue
of Scuba Diving, page 83, "The Final Ascent".#The point the author makes is
that "the trickiest part of your dive
might come after the safety stop".
Being a relative newbie I#certainly have to defer to the author but there was
a sense I had that
there may have been a bit of overstating certain
"potential" problems.�sWas wondering what you more experienced folks
thought.“vSyÕv-- sPlease post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com

Having 42 years of diving, including using no BC (didn't exist - now I have
one) and using a single stage regulator (now I have a 2 stage), I can only say
that when you are ascending, just breathe out. I don't understand the group
of people in the world that are totally anal in everything they do. Perhaps
they have nothing better to do with their life than compute numbers. I'd
rather just enjoy what I do without this kind of nonsence. (Perhaps Scuba
Diving is running out of articles - I cancelled them because of lack of
interest on my part)

Just exhale (normal breathing) and you won't have any problems. Enjoy diving.

Stan



<sytech@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Was wondering what opinions people had about the article in March 2006àissue
of Scuba Diving, page 83, "The Final Ascent".#The point the author makes is
that "the trickiest part of your dive
might come after the safety stop".
Being a relative newbie I#certainly have to defer to the author but there was
a sense I had that
there may have been a bit of overstating certain
"potential" problems.�sWas wondering what you more experienced folks
thought.“vSyÕv-- sPlease post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com

Theoretically all dive have almost all dives have a degree of nitroigen
supersaturation. With any degree of supersaturation there is always a
risk of bubble nucleation. The dive tables are based on what chance
there is of a large bubble nucleation. Being on safe time does not mean
no bend. However in safe time means the risk of nucleation of a bubble
and the size of the bubble are PROBABLY within an acceptable limit.
One of the biggest risks to bubble nucleation is a fall or bump after
getting out of the water. Think of the bang on the side of a bottle of
coke.
The effect of a bend depends where the bubble forms. In muscle tissue
leave it any decompression risks the bubble moving to a more sensitive
area. Better to be live with a small numb dead spot of muscle than a
cerebal bend.
Bob M