Bali and Lombok Trip from UK

"jason" <jason.1ory2n@forums.deeperblue.net> wrote in message
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> didn't expect that there would be all this fuss, did not intend to
> offend anybody! and as the person who seems to be most offended or a
> least most vocal is Greg I would like to appologise wholeheartedly for
> any offence caused to you! I would however like to say a few things:-

I'm not offended, I'm irritated. Your "wholehearted apology" appears to be
a bunch of excuses and rationale.

> Thanks Greg I have used the deeperblue forums before and not realy
> understood that I was also using news groups at the same time, haven't
> infact used news groups for about 7-8 years. I have now sorted out my
> newsfeed and have read all the stuff you posted. I have read the FAQs
> and the charter that you hold so dear. I note that this charter was
> last voted on in 1995 is that correct?

And the Magna Carta dates from 1215. What's your point?

> Alot of what you have said stems around your belief that what I am
> doing is a commercial add. If by that you mean that I am opening the
> trip up to anybody that is interested then yes that is the case. If
> however you mean that I am doing it for profit then you are very much
> mistaken and I am prepared to prove it to you personally. I am simply
> trying to get a group of like minded divers and thier partners if they
> want, to go on a great trip to an area that I have been to many times
> and think is great for diving!

If you're not doing it for profit then you're even dumber than you look.
But that still doesn't excuse your commercial advertisement.

Since undoubtedly someone will be getting a free trip and/or commissions,
can I have it since you obviously aren't getting it?

> If you read the web site you will note that all the web site actually
> does is ask that people 'register thier interest' if they have one. I
> am trying to guage if thier is enough interest to do the trip in
> Jan/Feb 2006. I am trying to do this in the same way a club might ask
> it's members, but since this trip is quite different I am trying a
> broarder approach.

Sure. And some other joker used to see how much "interest" there would be
in DIR-F classes. It was still spamming. This isn't a marketing test group
for your own personal commercial gain. If you want to gauge interest, spend
some money and do it the legitimate way.

> There seems to me to be a couple of issues the first of which seems to
> be some rivalry between the different newsgroups and the fact that
> deeperblue link directly into some of these news groups. The fact that
> they do increases the traffic they get and frankly makes it easier to
> take part. The rivalry I shall ignore!!! But they do not make the
> 'rules' or 'charter' immediatly obvious to those using the news groups
> through deeperblue.

I have no idea what deeper blue is. This is rec.scuba.locations. There's
no rivalry between newsgroups as far as I know. And there's certainly no
comparison between a newsgroup and deeper blue, whatever that is.

> I presume that the "our" is a royal our and that you actually mean that
> it is your sincere hope etc etc. I also understand your generalisation
> about the deeperblue users, but is it realy the case that they are all
> "unrepentant and totally reprehensible"?

You're the Brit. We don't have royalty where we live. We means we. Me and
the rest of the newsgroupers who share my views.

> It seems that ads such as mine are not always correctly catogorised as
> 'commercial' or 'non commercial' by some people and that it would seem
> sencible to have a subsection in some of these newsgroups for ads!
> Thereby removing the chance of offending people. maybe the time is
> right for this where it clearly wasn't in 1995! After all the world has
> moved on a whole lot since then.

rec.scuba.locations.spam? I don't think so. Take your commercial crap off
of this newsgroup. Period.

> I have no intention to rant in this post so if it seems that way sorry!
> All I realy want to do is say "I've got a great idea for a trip to Bali
> and Lombok, anybody interested?" This just seemed the logical way to do
> it.

Logical for a nitwit. Are all Brits as dumb as you?

In article <428004c3$0$21992$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com>,
"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote:

> rec.scuba.locations.spam? I don't think so. Take your commercial crap off
> of this newsgroup. Period.

Wow, hell must of frozen over. I actually agree with you Greg. Great
post :)

LG

"Legrande Harris" <lgharris@xmission.com> wrote in message
news:lgharris-76C08F.08355310052005@news.xmission.com...
> In article <428004c3$0$21992$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com>,
> "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote:
>
>> rec.scuba.locations.spam? I don't think so. Take your commercial crap
>> off
>> of this newsgroup. Period.
>
> Wow, hell must of frozen over. I actually agree with you Greg. Great
> post :)

Spam is a bipartisan concern.

In article <428004c3$0$21992$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com>, Greg Mossman
<mossman@qnet.com> wrote:


€ > There seems to me to be a couple of issues the first of which seems to
€ > be some rivalry between the different newsgroups and the fact that
€ > deeperblue link directly into some of these news groups. The fact that
€ > they do increases the traffic they get and frankly makes it easier to
€ > take part. The rivalry I shall ignore!!! But they do not make the
€ > 'rules' or 'charter' immediatly obvious to those using the news groups
€ > through deeperblue.
€
€ I have no idea what deeper blue is. This is rec.scuba.locations. There's
€ no rivalry between newsgroups as far as I know. And there's certainly no
€ comparison between a newsgroup and deeper blue, whatever that is.
€

Deeperblue and Scubamonster are web forums that include usenet access.
In other words, since they can't generate enough traffic on their own,
they suck content from Usenet and post it to their web forum.

"chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
news:sG8ge.1304227$6l.1015775@pd7tw2no...

> You sure are a grumpy old fart lately.

Maybe I need a vacation.

> I can't see a problem. It isn't only Deeper Blue posters that have
> spammed
> here.

No, but it's a start. Who do you suggest we ban next?

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
news:428132d3$0$21990$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com...
> "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
> news:sG8ge.1304227$6l.1015775@pd7tw2no...
>
> > You sure are a grumpy old fart lately.
>
> Maybe I need a vacation.

Yeah, I guess so. Those business trips don't seem to be good for you.

> > I can't see a problem. It isn't only Deeper Blue posters that have
> > spammed
> > here.
>
> No, but it's a start. Who do you suggest we ban next?

I have my ideas.