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03-01-2005, 05:15 AM
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 Re: Indian Ocean / East African Marine Life Photobook ... On 2005-02-28 16:01:48 -0800, Andrew Smith <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> said: > Dan L wrote: >> On 2005-02-28 03:46:37 -0800, "Jon Chan" <spicedhamme@yahoo.com> said: >> >>> >>> "Andrew Smith" <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:4222EDCA.9000407@btinternet.com... >>> >>>> >>>> I know it's a bit demanding, but I've been looking for a glossy >>>> photo-book which includes Indian Ocean marine life - I've tried the big >>>> London bookshops (Foyles, Blackwells, Waterstones-Simpsons) ... but >>>> can't find anything particularly good ... >>>> >>>> just wondered if there were any specialist bookshops in London ??? >>>> >>>> thanks > >>> >>> Have a look at "Marine Life of the Pacific and Indian Oceans" >>> Allen/Steene. Its not a comprehensive book but it is glossy and covers >>> vertebrates and invertebrates of the most common species. For >>> something more comprehensive take a look at "Indo-Pacific Coral Reef >>> Field Guide" Allen/Steene. Smaller pictures but covers a lot more. >>> Both are available on Amazon. >>> >>> Jon >> >> >> There are quite a few out, but most of the good ones are South African >> or Australian. >> >> The ones that will be easy to find in the UK include the Collins Pocket >> Guide to Coral Reef Fish and the Debelius Indian Ocean Reef Guide. >> >> The collins is by Vernon and Myers - it's pretty good but it's all >> drawings rather than photos. The Debelius is photos, but is known to >> have a number of mis-identifications (especially in the turtle section). >> >> I would (if you can carry them) use a combination of the two. >> >> You can get these and more from http://www.aquapress.co.uk in the >> Marine Identification/Indian Ocean section - click on the complete list >> link when you egt to the section. >> >> There are some others in there that look interesting, but I can't >> comment on the usefulness. Those two will allow you to ID most things >> and are used as the standard basic ID books on a good number of >> research expeditions. >> >> Dan. > > > Thanks Jon & Dan for your replies. > > That website looks like it is fairly comprehensive ... found the > following (am looking for something covering Mozambique waters - it is > the closest I could find) and wondered if anybody knew whether it is > any good ?? > > > Reef Fishes & Corals East Coast of Southern Africa > http://www.aquapress.co.uk/bookDetail.asp?id=419&cat=26 That looks like a good one - I think I've used it occasionally. If you're after a single book for the area that you're going to then I'd recommend the Collins Pocket Guide - I spent a year working as a biologist and diving manager for a research expedition in SW Madagascar, and that was the single most useful guide we had. It's not perfect, and it's not a photo based one, but it's probably the most complete guide in print at the moment. **Just found out - the most complete book for the area is back in print - Smith's Sea Fishes. Hardback and about £60 but very cool that someone has reprinted it. <http://www.struik.co.za/book.book.detail.action?id=1819>. The similar titles at the bottom of the page list another book that looks good... Dan.  |
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03-01-2005, 05:15 AM
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| Re: Indian Ocean / East African Marine Life Photobook ... On 2005-02-28 16:01:48 -0800, Andrew Smith <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> said: > Dan L wrote: >> On 2005-02-28 03:46:37 -0800, "Jon Chan" <spicedhamme@yahoo.com> said: >> >>> >>> "Andrew Smith" <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:4222EDCA.9000407@btinternet.com... >>> >>>> >>>> I know it's a bit demanding, but I've been looking for a glossy >>>> photo-book which includes Indian Ocean marine life - I've tried the big >>>> London bookshops (Foyles, Blackwells, Waterstones-Simpsons) ... but >>>> can't find anything particularly good ... >>>> >>>> just wondered if there were any specialist bookshops in London ??? >>>> >>>> thanks > >>> >>> Have a look at "Marine Life of the Pacific and Indian Oceans" >>> Allen/Steene. Its not a comprehensive book but it is glossy and covers >>> vertebrates and invertebrates of the most common species. For >>> something more comprehensive take a look at "Indo-Pacific Coral Reef >>> Field Guide" Allen/Steene. Smaller pictures but covers a lot more. >>> Both are available on Amazon. >>> >>> Jon >> >> >> There are quite a few out, but most of the good ones are South African >> or Australian. >> >> The ones that will be easy to find in the UK include the Collins Pocket >> Guide to Coral Reef Fish and the Debelius Indian Ocean Reef Guide. >> >> The collins is by Vernon and Myers - it's pretty good but it's all >> drawings rather than photos. The Debelius is photos, but is known to >> have a number of mis-identifications (especially in the turtle section). >> >> I would (if you can carry them) use a combination of the two. >> >> You can get these and more from http://www.aquapress.co.uk in the >> Marine Identification/Indian Ocean section - click on the complete list >> link when you egt to the section. >> >> There are some others in there that look interesting, but I can't >> comment on the usefulness. Those two will allow you to ID most things >> and are used as the standard basic ID books on a good number of >> research expeditions. >> >> Dan. > > > Thanks Jon & Dan for your replies. > > That website looks like it is fairly comprehensive ... found the > following (am looking for something covering Mozambique waters - it is > the closest I could find) and wondered if anybody knew whether it is > any good ?? > > > Reef Fishes & Corals East Coast of Southern Africa > http://www.aquapress.co.uk/bookDetail.asp?id=419&cat=26 That looks like a good one - I think I've used it occasionally. If you're after a single book for the area that you're going to then I'd recommend the Collins Pocket Guide - I spent a year working as a biologist and diving manager for a research expedition in SW Madagascar, and that was the single most useful guide we had. It's not perfect, and it's not a photo based one, but it's probably the most complete guide in print at the moment. **Just found out - the most complete book for the area is back in print - Smith's Sea Fishes. Hardback and about £60 but very cool that someone has reprinted it. <http://www.struik.co.za/book.book.detail.action?id=1819>. The similar titles at the bottom of the page list another book that looks good... Dan. |
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03-01-2005, 05:15 AM
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| Re: Indian Ocean / East African Marine Life Photobook ... On 2005-02-28 16:01:48 -0800, Andrew Smith <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> said: > Dan L wrote: >> On 2005-02-28 03:46:37 -0800, "Jon Chan" <spicedhamme@yahoo.com> said: >> >>> >>> "Andrew Smith" <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:4222EDCA.9000407@btinternet.com... >>> >>>> >>>> I know it's a bit demanding, but I've been looking for a glossy >>>> photo-book which includes Indian Ocean marine life - I've tried the big >>>> London bookshops (Foyles, Blackwells, Waterstones-Simpsons) ... but >>>> can't find anything particularly good ... >>>> >>>> just wondered if there were any specialist bookshops in London ??? >>>> >>>> thanks > >>> >>> Have a look at "Marine Life of the Pacific and Indian Oceans" >>> Allen/Steene. Its not a comprehensive book but it is glossy and covers >>> vertebrates and invertebrates of the most common species. For >>> something more comprehensive take a look at "Indo-Pacific Coral Reef >>> Field Guide" Allen/Steene. Smaller pictures but covers a lot more. >>> Both are available on Amazon. >>> >>> Jon >> >> >> There are quite a few out, but most of the good ones are South African >> or Australian. >> >> The ones that will be easy to find in the UK include the Collins Pocket >> Guide to Coral Reef Fish and the Debelius Indian Ocean Reef Guide. >> >> The collins is by Vernon and Myers - it's pretty good but it's all >> drawings rather than photos. The Debelius is photos, but is known to >> have a number of mis-identifications (especially in the turtle section). >> >> I would (if you can carry them) use a combination of the two. >> >> You can get these and more from http://www.aquapress.co.uk in the >> Marine Identification/Indian Ocean section - click on the complete list >> link when you egt to the section. >> >> There are some others in there that look interesting, but I can't >> comment on the usefulness. Those two will allow you to ID most things >> and are used as the standard basic ID books on a good number of >> research expeditions. >> >> Dan. > > > Thanks Jon & Dan for your replies. > > That website looks like it is fairly comprehensive ... found the > following (am looking for something covering Mozambique waters - it is > the closest I could find) and wondered if anybody knew whether it is > any good ?? > > > Reef Fishes & Corals East Coast of Southern Africa > http://www.aquapress.co.uk/bookDetail.asp?id=419&cat=26 That looks like a good one - I think I've used it occasionally. If you're after a single book for the area that you're going to then I'd recommend the Collins Pocket Guide - I spent a year working as a biologist and diving manager for a research expedition in SW Madagascar, and that was the single most useful guide we had. It's not perfect, and it's not a photo based one, but it's probably the most complete guide in print at the moment. **Just found out - the most complete book for the area is back in print - Smith's Sea Fishes. Hardback and about £60 but very cool that someone has reprinted it. <http://www.struik.co.za/book.book.detail.action?id=1819>. The similar titles at the bottom of the page list another book that looks good... Dan. |
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03-01-2005, 05:15 AM
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| Re: Indian Ocean / East African Marine Life Photobook ... On 2005-02-28 16:01:48 -0800, Andrew Smith <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> said: > Dan L wrote: >> On 2005-02-28 03:46:37 -0800, "Jon Chan" <spicedhamme@yahoo.com> said: >> >>> >>> "Andrew Smith" <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:4222EDCA.9000407@btinternet.com... >>> >>>> >>>> I know it's a bit demanding, but I've been looking for a glossy >>>> photo-book which includes Indian Ocean marine life - I've tried the big >>>> London bookshops (Foyles, Blackwells, Waterstones-Simpsons) ... but >>>> can't find anything particularly good ... >>>> >>>> just wondered if there were any specialist bookshops in London ??? >>>> >>>> thanks > >>> >>> Have a look at "Marine Life of the Pacific and Indian Oceans" >>> Allen/Steene. Its not a comprehensive book but it is glossy and covers >>> vertebrates and invertebrates of the most common species. For >>> something more comprehensive take a look at "Indo-Pacific Coral Reef >>> Field Guide" Allen/Steene. Smaller pictures but covers a lot more. >>> Both are available on Amazon. >>> >>> Jon >> >> >> There are quite a few out, but most of the good ones are South African >> or Australian. >> >> The ones that will be easy to find in the UK include the Collins Pocket >> Guide to Coral Reef Fish and the Debelius Indian Ocean Reef Guide. >> >> The collins is by Vernon and Myers - it's pretty good but it's all >> drawings rather than photos. The Debelius is photos, but is known to >> have a number of mis-identifications (especially in the turtle section). >> >> I would (if you can carry them) use a combination of the two. >> >> You can get these and more from http://www.aquapress.co.uk in the >> Marine Identification/Indian Ocean section - click on the complete list >> link when you egt to the section. >> >> There are some others in there that look interesting, but I can't >> comment on the usefulness. Those two will allow you to ID most things >> and are used as the standard basic ID books on a good number of >> research expeditions. >> >> Dan. > > > Thanks Jon & Dan for your replies. > > That website looks like it is fairly comprehensive ... found the > following (am looking for something covering Mozambique waters - it is > the closest I could find) and wondered if anybody knew whether it is > any good ?? > > > Reef Fishes & Corals East Coast of Southern Africa > http://www.aquapress.co.uk/bookDetail.asp?id=419&cat=26 That looks like a good one - I think I've used it occasionally. If you're after a single book for the area that you're going to then I'd recommend the Collins Pocket Guide - I spent a year working as a biologist and diving manager for a research expedition in SW Madagascar, and that was the single most useful guide we had. It's not perfect, and it's not a photo based one, but it's probably the most complete guide in print at the moment. **Just found out - the most complete book for the area is back in print - Smith's Sea Fishes. Hardback and about £60 but very cool that someone has reprinted it. <http://www.struik.co.za/book.book.detail.action?id=1819>. The similar titles at the bottom of the page list another book that looks good... Dan. |
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03-27-2007, 12:24 AM
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| Indian Ocean / East African Marine Life Photobook ... I know it's a bit demanding, but I've been looking for a glossy photo-book which includes Indian Ocean marine life - I've tried the big London bookshops (Foyles, Blackwells, Waterstones-Simpsons) ... but can't find anything particularly good ... just wondered if there were any specialist bookshops in London ??? thanks |
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03-27-2007, 12:24 AM
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| Re: Indian Ocean / East African Marine Life Photobook ... "Andrew Smith" <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:4222EDCA.9000407@btinternet.com... > > I know it's a bit demanding, but I've been looking for a glossy photo-book > which includes Indian Ocean marine life - I've tried the big London > bookshops (Foyles, Blackwells, Waterstones-Simpsons) ... but can't find > anything particularly good ... > > just wondered if there were any specialist bookshops in London ??? > > thanks Have a look at "Marine Life of the Pacific and Indian Oceans" Allen/Steene. Its not a comprehensive book but it is glossy and covers vertebrates and invertebrates of the most common species. For something more comprehensive take a look at "Indo-Pacific Coral Reef Field Guide" Allen/Steene. Smaller pictures but covers a lot more. Both are available on Amazon. Jon |
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03-27-2007, 12:24 AM
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| Re: Indian Ocean / East African Marine Life Photobook ... On 2005-02-28 03:46:37 -0800, "Jon Chan" <spicedhamme@yahoo.com> said: > > "Andrew Smith" <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:4222EDCA.9000407@btinternet.com... >> >> I know it's a bit demanding, but I've been looking for a glossy >> photo-book which includes Indian Ocean marine life - I've tried the big >> London bookshops (Foyles, Blackwells, Waterstones-Simpsons) ... but >> can't find anything particularly good ... >> >> just wondered if there were any specialist bookshops in London ??? >> >> thanks > > > Have a look at "Marine Life of the Pacific and Indian Oceans" > Allen/Steene. Its not a comprehensive book but it is glossy and covers > vertebrates and invertebrates of the most common species. For > something more comprehensive take a look at "Indo-Pacific Coral Reef > Field Guide" Allen/Steene. Smaller pictures but covers a lot more. > Both are available on Amazon. > > Jon There are quite a few out, but most of the good ones are South African or Australian. The ones that will be easy to find in the UK include the Collins Pocket Guide to Coral Reef Fish and the Debelius Indian Ocean Reef Guide. The collins is by Vernon and Myers - it's pretty good but it's all drawings rather than photos. The Debelius is photos, but is known to have a number of mis-identifications (especially in the turtle section). I would (if you can carry them) use a combination of the two. You can get these and more from http://www.aquapress.co.uk in the Marine Identification/Indian Ocean section - click on the complete list link when you egt to the section. There are some others in there that look interesting, but I can't comment on the usefulness. Those two will allow you to ID most things and are used as the standard basic ID books on a good number of research expeditions. Dan. |
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03-27-2007, 12:24 AM
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| Re: Indian Ocean / East African Marine Life Photobook ... Dan L wrote: > On 2005-02-28 03:46:37 -0800, "Jon Chan" <spicedhamme@yahoo.com> said: > >> >> "Andrew Smith" <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:4222EDCA.9000407@btinternet.com... >> >>> >>> I know it's a bit demanding, but I've been looking for a glossy >>> photo-book which includes Indian Ocean marine life - I've tried the >>> big London bookshops (Foyles, Blackwells, Waterstones-Simpsons) ... >>> but can't find anything particularly good ... >>> >>> just wondered if there were any specialist bookshops in London ??? >>> >>> thanks >> >> Have a look at "Marine Life of the Pacific and Indian Oceans" >> Allen/Steene. Its not a comprehensive book but it is glossy and covers >> vertebrates and invertebrates of the most common species. For >> something more comprehensive take a look at "Indo-Pacific Coral Reef >> Field Guide" Allen/Steene. Smaller pictures but covers a lot more. >> Both are available on Amazon. >> >> Jon > > > There are quite a few out, but most of the good ones are South African > or Australian. > > The ones that will be easy to find in the UK include the Collins Pocket > Guide to Coral Reef Fish and the Debelius Indian Ocean Reef Guide. > > The collins is by Vernon and Myers - it's pretty good but it's all > drawings rather than photos. The Debelius is photos, but is known to > have a number of mis-identifications (especially in the turtle section). > > I would (if you can carry them) use a combination of the two. > > You can get these and more from http://www.aquapress.co.uk in the Marine > Identification/Indian Ocean section - click on the complete list link > when you egt to the section. > > There are some others in there that look interesting, but I can't > comment on the usefulness. Those two will allow you to ID most things > and are used as the standard basic ID books on a good number of research > expeditions. > > Dan. Thanks Jon & Dan for your replies. That website looks like it is fairly comprehensive ... found the following (am looking for something covering Mozambique waters - it is the closest I could find) and wondered if anybody knew whether it is any good ?? Reef Fishes & Corals East Coast of Southern Africa http://www.aquapress.co.uk/bookDetail.asp?id=419&cat=26 |
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03-27-2007, 12:24 AM
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| Re: Indian Ocean / East African Marine Life Photobook ... On 2005-02-28 16:01:48 -0800, Andrew Smith <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> said: > Dan L wrote: >> On 2005-02-28 03:46:37 -0800, "Jon Chan" <spicedhamme@yahoo.com> said: >> >>> >>> "Andrew Smith" <andrew.smithh@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:4222EDCA.9000407@btinternet.com... >>> >>>> >>>> I know it's a bit demanding, but I've been looking for a glossy >>>> photo-book which includes Indian Ocean marine life - I've tried the big >>>> London bookshops (Foyles, Blackwells, Waterstones-Simpsons) ... but >>>> can't find anything particularly good ... >>>> >>>> just wondered if there were any specialist bookshops in London ??? >>>> >>>> thanks > >>> >>> Have a look at "Marine Life of the Pacific and Indian Oceans" >>> Allen/Steene. Its not a comprehensive book but it is glossy and covers >>> vertebrates and invertebrates of the most common species. For >>> something more comprehensive take a look at "Indo-Pacific Coral Reef >>> Field Guide" Allen/Steene. Smaller pictures but covers a lot more. >>> Both are available on Amazon. >>> >>> Jon >> >> >> There are quite a few out, but most of the good ones are South African >> or Australian. >> >> The ones that will be easy to find in the UK include the Collins Pocket >> Guide to Coral Reef Fish and the Debelius Indian Ocean Reef Guide. >> >> The collins is by Vernon and Myers - it's pretty good but it's all >> drawings rather than photos. The Debelius is photos, but is known to >> have a number of mis-identifications (especially in the turtle section). >> >> I would (if you can carry them) use a combination of the two. >> >> You can get these and more from http://www.aquapress.co.uk in the >> Marine Identification/Indian Ocean section - click on the complete list >> link when you egt to the section. >> >> There are some others in there that look interesting, but I can't >> comment on the usefulness. Those two will allow you to ID most things >> and are used as the standard basic ID books on a good number of >> research expeditions. >> >> Dan. > > > Thanks Jon & Dan for your replies. > > That website looks like it is fairly comprehensive ... found the > following (am looking for something covering Mozambique waters - it is > the closest I could find) and wondered if anybody knew whether it is > any good ?? > > > Reef Fishes & Corals East Coast of Southern Africa > http://www.aquapress.co.uk/bookDetail.asp?id=419&cat=26 That looks like a good one - I think I've used it occasionally. If you're after a single book for the area that you're going to then I'd recommend the Collins Pocket Guide - I spent a year working as a biologist and diving manager for a research expedition in SW Madagascar, and that was the single most useful guide we had. It's not perfect, and it's not a photo based one, but it's probably the most complete guide in print at the moment. **Just found out - the most complete book for the area is back in print - Smith's Sea Fishes. Hardback and about £60 but very cool that someone has reprinted it. <http://www.struik.co.za/book.book.detail.action?id=1819>. The similar titles at the bottom of the page list another book that looks good... Dan. |
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05-11-2007, 01:25 AM
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