OT: From those Iraqi's that hate us;

Scott wrote:

> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:11i9b4gkkaqopdc@news.supernews.com...
>
>
>>"BarryNL" <n@n.nl> wrote in message
>>news:43237ca3$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl. ..
>>
>>
>>>Erm, that around 0.003% of Iraqis are so overjoyed with the American
>>>presence in Iraq that they sent money? It's not much of a point, but OK.
>
>
> No one said "overjoyed" you pompous asshole.
>
> Typical leftist spin and hyperbole.
>
> How much do you think an Iraqi soldier (the true "freedom fighters") makes?
>
> The fact that a *single* Iraqi, let alone an entire company (who, unlike
> you, fight, kill and die every day to earn their freedom), gave a nickel to
> help "their brothers" in America (and your typical and predictable
> response), simply illustrates how full of shit you and those like you are.
>
> My point was to bring cockroaches like you out into the light, and it was as
> easy as posting a link to a single story of Iraqi compassion.
>
> Stop while you're behind.
>
>
>> See, Barry, you miss yet another point.
>>
>>Like several others around here, who, for reasons different from, but just
>>as mercenary as, yours,
>>
>>It's not possible for you to see any positive aspect of this.
>>
>>While you certainly have no solutions, of course.
>>
>>You can point fingers at American troop "abuse" of Iraqi prisoners, while
>>shadow dancing around 30 years of genocide, WMD use, rape chambers,
>>religious persecution and mass graves.
>
>
> I met and got another contract today with an old Jarhead. He went through
> Dego in '68 then did two tours in Vietnam.
>
> I told him I went through ten years later, and he said "Last guy off the bus
> get his ass kicked?"
>
> If you hadnt been there, you wouldnt know.
>
> Knew, instantly, who his DI's were.
>
> Point being, we who served got treated far worse in basic than any Iraqi or
> illegal combatant ever did in our custody.
>
>
>>You can state, as one here did "There Are No Terrorists In Iraq" with a
>>straight face, or say that Iraq posed no threat to the U.S., then
>
> criticize
>
>>the administration for failing to prevent an attack.
>
>
> 9/11 killed 10x more than Katrina, as did the embassy bombings, the Beruit
> bombings, and the other terrorist acts by Islamic assholes over they years,
> but it doesnt serve the moonbats and their hatred to remember or acknowledge
> those facts. Katrina makes a good podium for your hatred.
>
> After all, like Alan said, the lives of airmen, soldiers, sailors and
> Marines arent worth as much as "regular" Americans, but declined to define
> the term when pressed.
>
> Admitedly the count in NO isnt done yet, but no where near the toll that the
> moonbats hoped to hang on Bush in their rush to politicize an act of nature
> that has been warned about for literally decades. Lets also not forget that
> the Clinton administration, which raised taxes, also failed to provide money
> for the work needed, and that the house and senate under Clinton rejected
> the Kyoto treaty almost unanimously.
>
> http://www.chronwatch.com/content/co....asp?aid=16698
>
>
>>You can say, as the democrats here do, that we should have left Hussein in
>>power and luxury while starving the Iraqi populace until he -finally-
>
> found
>
>>a way to attack us or start a nuclear exchange with the Israelis.
>>
>> That's why no one is interested in your ignorance.
>
>
> Remember Michael Moore saying, with a snicker; "There *is* no terrorist
> threat!"
>
> So now, thanks to Dubya and the Brits and Aussies with descended testicles,
> Al Qaeda has been reduced to attempting to terrorize and attenuate the lives
> of free people with threats like this;
>
> http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SYD208309.htm
>
> But hey, with help from Barry, Alan, Greg, Michael Moore, Pelosi, Feinstein,
> Dean, Kennedy, Kerry, Schumer, Clinton (they already had a bunch of help
> from him, couldn't have pulled off Somalia and all those embassy bombings
> without him), Michael, Cindy Sheehan (ad infinitum, ad nauseum), Iran and
> the EU, they might just get their nuke yet.
>
> Maybe the refugees from LA, after it gets nuked, can go stay in New
> Orleans...
>
>
>
>
and more words of wisdom from Michael Moore. He will never ceased to
amaze with his stupidty
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/me...dex.php?id=185

Joe English wrote:

> Scott wrote:
>
>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:11i9b4gkkaqopdc@news.supernews.com...
>>
>>
>>> "BarryNL" <n@n.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:43237ca3$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Erm, that around 0.003% of Iraqis are so overjoyed with the American
>>>> presence in Iraq that they sent money? It's not much of a point, but
>>>> OK.
>>
>>
>>
>> No one said "overjoyed" you pompous asshole.
>>
>> Typical leftist spin and hyperbole.
>>
>> How much do you think an Iraqi soldier (the true "freedom fighters")
>> makes?
>>
>> The fact that a *single* Iraqi, let alone an entire company (who, unlike
>> you, fight, kill and die every day to earn their freedom), gave a
>> nickel to
>> help "their brothers" in America (and your typical and predictable
>> response), simply illustrates how full of shit you and those like you
>> are.
>>
>> My point was to bring cockroaches like you out into the light, and it
>> was as
>> easy as posting a link to a single story of Iraqi compassion.
>>
>> Stop while you're behind.
>>
>>
>>> See, Barry, you miss yet another point.
>>>
>>> Like several others around here, who, for reasons different from, but
>>> just
>>> as mercenary as, yours,
>>>
>>> It's not possible for you to see any positive aspect of this.
>>>
>>> While you certainly have no solutions, of course.
>>>
>>> You can point fingers at American troop "abuse" of Iraqi prisoners,
>>> while
>>> shadow dancing around 30 years of genocide, WMD use, rape chambers,
>>> religious persecution and mass graves.
>>
>>
>>
>> I met and got another contract today with an old Jarhead. He went through
>> Dego in '68 then did two tours in Vietnam.
>>
>> I told him I went through ten years later, and he said "Last guy off
>> the bus
>> get his ass kicked?"
>>
>> If you hadnt been there, you wouldnt know.
>>
>> Knew, instantly, who his DI's were.
>>
>> Point being, we who served got treated far worse in basic than any
>> Iraqi or
>> illegal combatant ever did in our custody.
>>
>>
>>> You can state, as one here did "There Are No Terrorists In Iraq" with a
>>> straight face, or say that Iraq posed no threat to the U.S., then
>>
>>
>> criticize
>>
>>> the administration for failing to prevent an attack.
>>
>>
>>
>> 9/11 killed 10x more than Katrina, as did the embassy bombings, the
>> Beruit
>> bombings, and the other terrorist acts by Islamic assholes over they
>> years,
>> but it doesnt serve the moonbats and their hatred to remember or
>> acknowledge
>> those facts. Katrina makes a good podium for your hatred.
>>
>> After all, like Alan said, the lives of airmen, soldiers, sailors and
>> Marines arent worth as much as "regular" Americans, but declined to
>> define
>> the term when pressed.
>>
>> Admitedly the count in NO isnt done yet, but no where near the toll
>> that the
>> moonbats hoped to hang on Bush in their rush to politicize an act of
>> nature
>> that has been warned about for literally decades. Lets also not forget
>> that
>> the Clinton administration, which raised taxes, also failed to provide
>> money
>> for the work needed, and that the house and senate under Clinton rejected
>> the Kyoto treaty almost unanimously.
>>
>> http://www.chronwatch.com/content/co....asp?aid=16698
>>
>>
>>> You can say, as the democrats here do, that we should have left
>>> Hussein in
>>> power and luxury while starving the Iraqi populace until he -finally-
>>
>>
>> found
>>
>>> a way to attack us or start a nuclear exchange with the Israelis.
>>>
>>> That's why no one is interested in your ignorance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Remember Michael Moore saying, with a snicker; "There *is* no terrorist
>> threat!"
>>
>> So now, thanks to Dubya and the Brits and Aussies with descended
>> testicles,
>> Al Qaeda has been reduced to attempting to terrorize and attenuate the
>> lives
>> of free people with threats like this;
>>
>> http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SYD208309.htm
>>
>> But hey, with help from Barry, Alan, Greg, Michael Moore, Pelosi,
>> Feinstein,
>> Dean, Kennedy, Kerry, Schumer, Clinton (they already had a bunch of help
>> from him, couldn't have pulled off Somalia and all those embassy bombings
>> without him), Michael, Cindy Sheehan (ad infinitum, ad nauseum), Iran and
>> the EU, they might just get their nuke yet.
>>
>> Maybe the refugees from LA, after it gets nuked, can go stay in New
>> Orleans...
>>
>>
>>
>>
> and more words of wisdom from Michael Moore. He will never ceased to
> amaze with his stupidty
> http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/me...dex.php?id=185


sorry it seems the remailers beat me to this - a thousand pardons

"Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe the refugees from LA, after it gets nuked, can go stay in New
> Orleans...

Only if they get the daiquiri bars reopened. Otherwise I'm heading to Lee's
house where I'll squat in his outside bar (as soon as he gets the screens
replaced). If he doesn't notice me, with American's generous adverse
possession laws, after 10 years I'll own the place.

Scott wrote:
> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:11i9b4gkkaqopdc@news.supernews.com...
>
>
>>"BarryNL" <n@n.nl> wrote in message
>>news:43237ca3$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl. ..
>>
>
> But hey, with help from Barry, Alan, Greg, Michael Moore, Pelosi, Feinstein,
> Dean, Kennedy, Kerry, Schumer, Clinton (they already had a bunch of help
> from him, couldn't have pulled off Somalia and all those embassy bombings
> without him), Michael, Cindy Sheehan (ad infinitum, ad nauseum), Iran and
> the EU, they might just get their nuke yet.
>
> Maybe the refugees from LA, after it gets nuked, can go stay in New
> Orleans...

I'm sure I want to see a nuclear terrorist attack prevented just as much
as you do. I just wonder if alienating the entire arab world and turning
Iraq into a terrorist breeding ground was the best way to go about it.

--
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well
as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets,
and to steal bread. - Anatole France.

BarryNL wrote:

> Scott wrote:
>
>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:11i9b4gkkaqopdc@news.supernews.com...
>>
>>
>>> "BarryNL" <n@n.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:43237ca3$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>>>
>>
>> But hey, with help from Barry, Alan, Greg, Michael Moore, Pelosi,
>> Feinstein,
>> Dean, Kennedy, Kerry, Schumer, Clinton (they already had a bunch of help
>> from him, couldn't have pulled off Somalia and all those embassy bombings
>> without him), Michael, Cindy Sheehan (ad infinitum, ad nauseum), Iran and
>> the EU, they might just get their nuke yet.
>>
>> Maybe the refugees from LA, after it gets nuked, can go stay in New
>> Orleans...
>
>
> I'm sure I want to see a nuclear terrorist attack prevented just as much
> as you do. I just wonder if alienating the entire arab world and turning
> Iraq into a terrorist breeding ground was the best way to go about it.
>
may be the best way to stop it all. draw the terrorists to Iraq (since
they were never there before) we now have them in one place

Besides alienating the entire Arab World is simply right wing bullshit -
unless you have some credible source to this.

"BarryNL" wrote in message news:43253f7d$0$11077$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> I just wonder if alienating the entire arab world and turning
> Iraq into a terrorist breeding ground was the best way to go
> about it.

Nawh, turning the entire Arab world into a big glowing ember would be the
best way... A bit of money would have to be spent on overcoming the bad PR
that it might bring, but it would still be a lot cheaper than our current
methodology... Damn, for some reason, George never wants to consult me on
foreign policy...

--
"Every man feels meanly towards himself for not having been a soldier". Dr.
Johnson
"BarryNL" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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> Scott wrote:
>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:11i9b4gkkaqopdc@news.supernews.com...
>>
>>
>>>"BarryNL" <n@n.nl> wrote in message
>>>news:43237ca3$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl.. .
>>>
>>
>> But hey, with help from Barry, Alan, Greg, Michael Moore, Pelosi,
>> Feinstein,
>> Dean, Kennedy, Kerry, Schumer, Clinton (they already had a bunch of help
>> from him, couldn't have pulled off Somalia and all those embassy bombings
>> without him), Michael, Cindy Sheehan (ad infinitum, ad nauseum), Iran and
>> the EU, they might just get their nuke yet.
>>
>> Maybe the refugees from LA, after it gets nuked, can go stay in New
>> Orleans...
>
> I'm sure I want to see a nuclear terrorist attack prevented just as much
> as you do.

I doubt it.

>I just wonder if alienating the entire arab world

Already there, been that way for 30-50 years.

> and turning Iraq into a terrorist breeding ground

Already was, a documented fact you ignore.

I notice how, during our conversations, you tried to make issue of our
justified use of WMD, but have never once, to my knowledge, mentioned
Hussein doing it.

These are your blinders.

>was the best way to go about it.

It has clearly been so to date.

>
> --
> The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well
> as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets,
> and to steal bread. - Anatole France.

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
-- "Every man feels meanly towards himself for not having been a
soldier". Dr. Johnson "BarryNL" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:43253e3f$0$11074$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

>> Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
>
>>>> "BarryNL" <n@n.nl> wrote in message
>>>> news:43237ca3$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> I think the appropriate cliche here is "two wrongs don't make a right".


> Like I said, no solutions.

> Like the Canadians around here, you can take hindsight potshots at
> geopolitical decisions that a country of your stature will never,
has > never, and couldn't make.

I think my country had a lot more global influence once than yours has.
We ruled you until the late 1700's as I remember.

>>
>> You really need to learn to think in shades of grey instead of black
and
>> white. To do otherwise is the real ignorance.

> Like many around here, you can use your many shades of gray to
> disguise your lack of solution, or the moral fortitude to ever
> arrive at one.

Unfortunately I've seen the results of using 'moral fortitude' to make
decisions. Such as the Western country with the most 'moral' approach to
the question of teenage sex also having the highest teen pregnancy
rates. See if you can guess which it is.

--
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well
as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets,
and to steal bread. - Anatole France.

BarryNL wrote:

> dazed and confuzzed wrote:
>
>> BarryNL wrote:
>>
>>> Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
>>> -- "Every man feels meanly towards himself for not having been a
>>> soldier". Dr. Johnson "BarryNL" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:43253e3f$0$11074$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>>>
>>> >> Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>>> "BarryNL" <n@n.nl> wrote in message
>>> >>>> news:43237ca3$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>
>>> >> I think the appropriate cliche here is "two wrongs don't make a
>>> right".
>>>
>>>
>>> > Like I said, no solutions.
>>>
>>> > Like the Canadians around here, you can take hindsight potshots at
>>> > geopolitical decisions that a country of your stature will never,
>>> has > never, and couldn't make.
>>>
>>> I think my country had a lot more global influence once than yours
>>> has. We ruled you until the late 1700's as I remember.
>>
>>
>>
>> ONCE
>>
>> No more.
>
>
> That's the way it goes. Come back in a hundred years and someone will be
> here to post "no more" (or the Chinese equivalent thereof) about the US.
>
Possibly

Perhaps even probably.

Especially if the liberals keep chiseling away at our foundations.
Isn't that essentially what happened to England?




--

What if the Hokey Pokey ISN’T what its all about???

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
> --
> "Every man feels meanly towards himself for not having been a soldier". Dr.
> Johnson
> "BarryNL" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:43253e3f$0$11074$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> > Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
> >> "BarryNL" <n@n.nl> wrote in message
> >> news:43237ca3$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> >>
> >>
> >>>Erm, that around 0.003% of Iraqis are so overjoyed with the American
> >>>presence in Iraq that they sent money? It's not much of a point, but OK.
> >>
> >>
> >> See, Barry, you miss yet another point.
> >>
> >> Like several others around here, who, for reasons different from, but
> >> just as mercenary as, yours,
> >>
> >> It's not possible for you to see any positive aspect of this.
> >
> > What I see is the reality.
>
> As you percieve it, and we've had a fair sampling of that.
>
> >Some winners, some losers. Some positive some negative. What I don't accept
> >is that, because there is some positive, the negative can be conveniently
> >brushed under the carpet.
> >
> >> While you certainly have no solutions, of course.
> >>
> >> You can point fingers at American troop "abuse" of Iraqi prisoners,
> >> while shadow dancing around 30 years of genocide, WMD use, rape chambers,
> >> religious persecution and mass graves.
> >
> > I think the appropriate cliche here is "two wrongs don't make a right".
>
> Like I said, no solutions.
>
> Like the Canadians around here, you can take hindsight potshots at
> geopolitical decisions that a country of your stature will never, has never,
> and couldn't make.

Aren't you commenting on geopolitical decisions that someone of you
will never, has never, and... well you probably would make ?

We're all armchair saviours around here...

And countries like Canada are needed, in bunches, to influence the 800
pound gorrilla in the room. We did make a geopolitical decision not to
get involved in Bush's ill-planned, ill-justified invasion and in my
opinion that was not a minor event. If the Brits and US can't get
little brother Canada to sign up, well it can't be much of a plan.

There are other countries on their way up, the US ain't going to be the
only hyper power for ever. Katrina has shown the US is just as
vulnerable as any other country and it's fortunes can change pretty
quickly. Witness the fact that we might finally get a fair shake on
softwood now that the rebuilding needs so much of it.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/nation..._20050913.html

>
> Kinda like the guy that hands out buckets of ball at a driving range
> commenting on Tiger Wood's swing.
>
> >
> >> You can state, as one here did "There Are No Terrorists In Iraq" with a
> >> straight face, or say that Iraq posed no threat to the U.S., then
> >> criticize the administration for failing to prevent an attack.
> > >
> >> You can say, as the democrats here do, that we should have left Hussein
> >> in power and luxury while starving the Iraqi populace until he -finally-
> >> found a way to attack us or start a nuclear exchange with the Israelis.
> >>
> >> That's why no one is interested in your ignorance.
> >
> > You really need to learn to think in shades of grey instead of black and
> > white. To do otherwise is the real ignorance.
>
> Like many around here, you can use your many shades of gray to disguise
> your lack of solution, or the moral fortitude to ever arrive at one.
>
>
> >
> > --
> > The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well
> > as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets,
> > and to steal bread. - Anatole France.