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  #141  
Old 06-19-2005, 10:07 AM
Matthias Voss
 
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Default Re: 18m dives around north or west Ireland

Keith Manning wrote:

> "Nick Eden" <null@localhost.com> wrote in message
>
>
>
>>Of course he was PADI. You knew that from the fact that he was
>>qualified to 18m.
>>
>>Now, a 12m CESA being safe strikes me as dangerous PADI-speak. Sounds
>>to me like a damn fine way of killing yourself.
>>-------------------------------------
>>York BSAC Web Page:
>>http://website.lineone.net/~york_bsac

>
>
> Haven't you got anything better to do than agency bashing.
>
> Keith


Ah, yes.
But that does not belong here

Matthias

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  #142  
Old 06-19-2005, 10:07 AM
Matthias Voss
 
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Default Re: 18m dives around north or west Ireland

Keith Manning wrote:

> "Nick Eden" <null@localhost.com> wrote in message
>
>
>
>>Of course he was PADI. You knew that from the fact that he was
>>qualified to 18m.
>>
>>Now, a 12m CESA being safe strikes me as dangerous PADI-speak. Sounds
>>to me like a damn fine way of killing yourself.
>>-------------------------------------
>>York BSAC Web Page:
>>http://website.lineone.net/~york_bsac

>
>
> Haven't you got anything better to do than agency bashing.
>
> Keith


Ah, yes.
But that does not belong here

Matthias

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  #143  
Old 06-19-2005, 10:07 AM
Matthias Voss
 
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Default Re: 18m dives around north or west Ireland

Keith Manning wrote:

> "Nick Eden" <null@localhost.com> wrote in message
>
>
>
>>Of course he was PADI. You knew that from the fact that he was
>>qualified to 18m.
>>
>>Now, a 12m CESA being safe strikes me as dangerous PADI-speak. Sounds
>>to me like a damn fine way of killing yourself.
>>-------------------------------------
>>York BSAC Web Page:
>>http://website.lineone.net/~york_bsac

>
>
> Haven't you got anything better to do than agency bashing.
>
> Keith


Ah, yes.
But that does not belong here

Matthias

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  #144  
Old 06-19-2005, 10:07 AM
Matthias Voss
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 18m dives around north or west Ireland

Keith Manning wrote:

> "Nick Eden" <null@localhost.com> wrote in message
>
>
>
>>Of course he was PADI. You knew that from the fact that he was
>>qualified to 18m.
>>
>>Now, a 12m CESA being safe strikes me as dangerous PADI-speak. Sounds
>>to me like a damn fine way of killing yourself.
>>-------------------------------------
>>York BSAC Web Page:
>>http://website.lineone.net/~york_bsac

>
>
> Haven't you got anything better to do than agency bashing.
>
> Keith


Ah, yes.
But that does not belong here

Matthias

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  #145  
Old 06-19-2005, 02:31 PM
Nick Eden
 
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Default Re: 18m dives around north or west Ireland

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:26:28 GMT, "Keith Manning" <Nospam@tesco.net>
wrote:

>
>"Nick Eden" <null@localhost.com> wrote in message
>
>
>> Of course he was PADI. You knew that from the fact that he was
>> qualified to 18m.
>>
>> Now, a 12m CESA being safe strikes me as dangerous PADI-speak. Sounds
>> to me like a damn fine way of killing yourself.

>
>Haven't you got anything better to do than agency bashing.
>
>Keith
>


Sorry. Wasn't meaning to.

I have been trained in doing a CESA with PADI, where I started out.
Did it from about 5m. Perhaps shallower for the first time through. If
you panic and screw things up there you're only looking at a 50%
increase in lung volume which would be no good thing but probably
survivable.

12m would involve the lung volume more than doubling. I think that's
'king dangerous.

I don't mean to say that the CESA drill is intrinsically bad - it
kicked in once when I dropped a weightbelt and I will forever be glad
that it did, but 12m seems far too deep to do it.
-------------------------------------
York BSAC Web Page:
http://website.lineone.net/~york_bsac
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  #146  
Old 06-19-2005, 02:31 PM
Nick Eden
 
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Default Re: 18m dives around north or west Ireland

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:26:28 GMT, "Keith Manning" <Nospam@tesco.net>
wrote:

>
>"Nick Eden" <null@localhost.com> wrote in message
>
>
>> Of course he was PADI. You knew that from the fact that he was
>> qualified to 18m.
>>
>> Now, a 12m CESA being safe strikes me as dangerous PADI-speak. Sounds
>> to me like a damn fine way of killing yourself.

>
>Haven't you got anything better to do than agency bashing.
>
>Keith
>


Sorry. Wasn't meaning to.

I have been trained in doing a CESA with PADI, where I started out.
Did it from about 5m. Perhaps shallower for the first time through. If
you panic and screw things up there you're only looking at a 50%
increase in lung volume which would be no good thing but probably
survivable.

12m would involve the lung volume more than doubling. I think that's
'king dangerous.

I don't mean to say that the CESA drill is intrinsically bad - it
kicked in once when I dropped a weightbelt and I will forever be glad
that it did, but 12m seems far too deep to do it.
-------------------------------------
York BSAC Web Page:
http://website.lineone.net/~york_bsac
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  #147  
Old 06-19-2005, 02:31 PM
Nick Eden
 
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Default Re: 18m dives around north or west Ireland

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:26:28 GMT, "Keith Manning" <Nospam@tesco.net>
wrote:

>
>"Nick Eden" <null@localhost.com> wrote in message
>
>
>> Of course he was PADI. You knew that from the fact that he was
>> qualified to 18m.
>>
>> Now, a 12m CESA being safe strikes me as dangerous PADI-speak. Sounds
>> to me like a damn fine way of killing yourself.

>
>Haven't you got anything better to do than agency bashing.
>
>Keith
>


Sorry. Wasn't meaning to.

I have been trained in doing a CESA with PADI, where I started out.
Did it from about 5m. Perhaps shallower for the first time through. If
you panic and screw things up there you're only looking at a 50%
increase in lung volume which would be no good thing but probably
survivable.

12m would involve the lung volume more than doubling. I think that's
'king dangerous.

I don't mean to say that the CESA drill is intrinsically bad - it
kicked in once when I dropped a weightbelt and I will forever be glad
that it did, but 12m seems far too deep to do it.
-------------------------------------
York BSAC Web Page:
http://website.lineone.net/~york_bsac
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  #148  
Old 06-19-2005, 02:31 PM
Nick Eden
 
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Default Re: 18m dives around north or west Ireland

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:26:28 GMT, "Keith Manning" <Nospam@tesco.net>
wrote:

>
>"Nick Eden" <null@localhost.com> wrote in message
>
>
>> Of course he was PADI. You knew that from the fact that he was
>> qualified to 18m.
>>
>> Now, a 12m CESA being safe strikes me as dangerous PADI-speak. Sounds
>> to me like a damn fine way of killing yourself.

>
>Haven't you got anything better to do than agency bashing.
>
>Keith
>


Sorry. Wasn't meaning to.

I have been trained in doing a CESA with PADI, where I started out.
Did it from about 5m. Perhaps shallower for the first time through. If
you panic and screw things up there you're only looking at a 50%
increase in lung volume which would be no good thing but probably
survivable.

12m would involve the lung volume more than doubling. I think that's
'king dangerous.

I don't mean to say that the CESA drill is intrinsically bad - it
kicked in once when I dropped a weightbelt and I will forever be glad
that it did, but 12m seems far too deep to do it.
-------------------------------------
York BSAC Web Page:
http://website.lineone.net/~york_bsac
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  #149  
Old 06-19-2005, 02:31 PM
Nick Eden
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 18m dives around north or west Ireland

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:26:28 GMT, "Keith Manning" <Nospam@tesco.net>
wrote:

>
>"Nick Eden" <null@localhost.com> wrote in message
>
>
>> Of course he was PADI. You knew that from the fact that he was
>> qualified to 18m.
>>
>> Now, a 12m CESA being safe strikes me as dangerous PADI-speak. Sounds
>> to me like a damn fine way of killing yourself.

>
>Haven't you got anything better to do than agency bashing.
>
>Keith
>


Sorry. Wasn't meaning to.

I have been trained in doing a CESA with PADI, where I started out.
Did it from about 5m. Perhaps shallower for the first time through. If
you panic and screw things up there you're only looking at a 50%
increase in lung volume which would be no good thing but probably
survivable.

12m would involve the lung volume more than doubling. I think that's
'king dangerous.

I don't mean to say that the CESA drill is intrinsically bad - it
kicked in once when I dropped a weightbelt and I will forever be glad
that it did, but 12m seems far too deep to do it.
-------------------------------------
York BSAC Web Page:
http://website.lineone.net/~york_bsac
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  #150  
Old 06-19-2005, 02:31 PM
Nick Eden
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: 18m dives around north or west Ireland

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:26:28 GMT, "Keith Manning" <Nospam@tesco.net>
wrote:

>
>"Nick Eden" <null@localhost.com> wrote in message
>
>
>> Of course he was PADI. You knew that from the fact that he was
>> qualified to 18m.
>>
>> Now, a 12m CESA being safe strikes me as dangerous PADI-speak. Sounds
>> to me like a damn fine way of killing yourself.

>
>Haven't you got anything better to do than agency bashing.
>
>Keith
>


Sorry. Wasn't meaning to.

I have been trained in doing a CESA with PADI, where I started out.
Did it from about 5m. Perhaps shallower for the first time through. If
you panic and screw things up there you're only looking at a 50%
increase in lung volume which would be no good thing but probably
survivable.

12m would involve the lung volume more than doubling. I think that's
'king dangerous.

I don't mean to say that the CESA drill is intrinsically bad - it
kicked in once when I dropped a weightbelt and I will forever be glad
that it did, but 12m seems far too deep to do it.
-------------------------------------
York BSAC Web Page:
http://website.lineone.net/~york_bsac
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