PADI Underwater Child Molester Specialty Course?

He won't do jail.


He looks like a good ole boy.......................white

I agree of your apprehension in the application of "good" to ANY
lawyer. They are all slyme.

A joke to lighten up:

What is the difference between a death skunk on the road and a dead
lawyer on the road?
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The skunk will have skidmarks in front of him.





On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:08:10 GMT, "Chris Guynn"
<chrisguynn@sbcglobal.N.O.S.P.A.M.net> wrote:

>
>"Robert" <robert@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:kr6kmv026hfutffru80cjh1negq37lr9qm@4ax.com.. .
>> Maybe he was following the DIR principles.
>>
>> Does not surprise me it is a PADI Instructor.
>>
>> Irrespective of my opinions,
>>
>> A good lawyer would argue that he was just following PADI guidelines
>> for the basic OW training. His hands might have slipped through. Maybe
>> it was a slimy pool. YMCA does not have a lot of resources.
>
>A few questions...
>1.) Are you saying a "good lawyer" would argue that his hands slipped into 2
>separate boys swim trunks on accident?
>2.) What would a slimy pool have to do with the boys swim trunks and
>genitalia?
>3.) What does the YMCA have to do with this?
>
>>
>> At most, probation and counseling.
>
>At the very least, he's already lost his job as well as his ability to work
>with the Boy Scouts. Unfortunately this will probably be true even if he
>was not guilty of the accusations.
><snip>
>
>C Guynn
>

Apologies?

No cocksucker in this newsgroup deserves any apology. Especially the
one you mention.




On 18 Sep 2003 05:44:06 -0700, de Valois <devalois@nailedandused.com>
wrote:

>Sorry Lee, I didn't see that Greg had posted this. Greg, my comments still
>stand. No 14 year old Scout would have the nerve to stand up to an instructor at
>a Scout camp.
>
>de Valois left this mess on 18 Sep 2003 05:42:23 -0700 for The Way to clean up:
>>
>>Greg Mossman left this mess on Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:22:08 -0700 for The Way to
>>clean up:
>>>
>>>"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1d7ab.30269$NM1.565@newsread2.news.atl.ear thlink.net...
>>>
>>>> Son of a bitch. It's not like the BSA hasn't had enough bad to say about
>>>> gays in the organization without adding this to the mix. I certainly how
>>>> that this is all wrong, that the accusations were a joke or in retaliation
>>>> for some earlier slight. Somehow, however, I suspect is isn't.
>>>
>>>Interesting that he fondled all four. You'd think after the first one or
>>>two, the others would have reacted. After all, they were 14 and 15 years
>>>old and there were four of them. If someone did that to me and my friends
>>>when I was that age, the guy wouldn't have been arrested, we'd have dealt
>>>with him ourselves.
>>
>>Lee, you were an Eagle Scout. You know damned well the meaning and intimidation
>>a figure of authority has over kids this age, particularly at a camp. You'd have
>>been scared shitless and unable to gang up on him. The *most* you would have
>>done was to go to your folks and rat on him, but even then, you'd likely have
>>been too ashamed and humiliated.
>>
>>Which is what these predators count on.
>>
>>Four Merit Badges Shy of Eagle himself,
>>
>>Tao te Carl
>>
>>"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003
>>
>
>Tao te Carl
>
>"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003

Sorry you feel that way...cocksucker! :D

John left this mess on Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:14:51 -0400 for The Way to clean up:
>
>Apologies?
>
>No cocksucker in this newsgroup deserves any apology. Especially the
>one you mention.
>
>
>
>
>On 18 Sep 2003 05:44:06 -0700, de Valois <devalois@nailedandused.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Sorry Lee, I didn't see that Greg had posted this. Greg, my comments still
>>stand. No 14 year old Scout would have the nerve to stand up to an instructor at
>>a Scout camp.
>>
>>de Valois left this mess on 18 Sep 2003 05:42:23 -0700 for The Way to clean up:
>>>
>>>Greg Mossman left this mess on Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:22:08 -0700 for The Way to
>>>clean up:
>>>>
>>>>"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1d7ab.30269$NM1.565@newsread2.news.atl.ea rthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>>> Son of a bitch. It's not like the BSA hasn't had enough bad to say about
>>>>> gays in the organization without adding this to the mix. I certainly how
>>>>> that this is all wrong, that the accusations were a joke or in retaliation
>>>>> for some earlier slight. Somehow, however, I suspect is isn't.
>>>>
>>>>Interesting that he fondled all four. You'd think after the first one or
>>>>two, the others would have reacted. After all, they were 14 and 15 years
>>>>old and there were four of them. If someone did that to me and my friends
>>>>when I was that age, the guy wouldn't have been arrested, we'd have dealt
>>>>with him ourselves.
>>>
>>>Lee, you were an Eagle Scout. You know damned well the meaning and intimidation
>>>a figure of authority has over kids this age, particularly at a camp. You'd have
>>>been scared shitless and unable to gang up on him. The *most* you would have
>>>done was to go to your folks and rat on him, but even then, you'd likely have
>>>been too ashamed and humiliated.
>>>
>>>Which is what these predators count on.
>>>
>>>Four Merit Badges Shy of Eagle himself,
>>>
>>>Tao te Carl
>>>
>>>"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003
>>>
>>
>>Tao te Carl
>>
>>"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003
>

Tao te Carl

"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003

Robert wrote

> I agree of your apprehension in the application of "good" to ANY
> lawyer. They are all slyme.

> A joke to lighten up:

> What is the difference between a death skunk on the road and a dead
> lawyer on the road?

The lawyer's estate will have sufficient funds to collect and safely dispose
of the corpse. The skunk will have to rely on charity.

Lee

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:10:40 GMT, "Lee Bell"
<leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote:

>"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:Bcuab.46997$834.40887@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
>> "Dan Bracuk" wrote ...
>> > What happens if you defy that edict?
>>
>> You get stuck applying MS security patches for the next year?
>
>Speaking of which, another worm virus hit yesterday. In the last 8 hours,
>I've received more than 100 copies of the newest Microsoft security patch
>plus a shitload of return messages indicating that outgoing messages to
>people I don't know, weren't delivered. I've confirmed I'm not infected,
>but it's 100% certain that one or more of those who have me in their address
>book are.
>
>Lee
>

So far I've deleted over 150 delivered but detected and quarentined by
the AV software. Deleted another 100 detected and isolated by
Bellsouth's Mailguard service. And spent the last hour and a half
running a scan disk on two computers just to make sure nothing got
through to the drives.

Baiting sharks with their bleeding carcasses would be too kind for the
SOB's making these virsues up.



Rick Simms

"To expect your government to save you
is to be a bystander in your own fate."

MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

mustang5@bellsouth.net Old Goat C.I.D. wrote:
>
> So far I've deleted over 150 delivered but detected and quarentined by
> the AV software. Deleted another 100 detected and isolated by
> Bellsouth's Mailguard service. And spent the last hour and a half
> running a scan disk on two computers just to make sure nothing got
> through to the drives.
>
> Baiting sharks with their bleeding carcasses would be too kind for the
> SOB's making these virsues up.
>
>
> Rick Simms
>

Rick,
I got over 400 of them yesterday alone. The AV software and browser got
them all and it appears nothing got through.

I do take exception to your proposed punishment. Absolute lack of
consideration for the sharks.

Andy

--
An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject.
An armed society is a polite society.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:13:23 -0400, "@n@h8spamcox.net"
<""nitespark\"@n@h8spamcox.net"> wrote:

>
>
>mustang5@bellsouth.net Old Goat C.I.D. wrote:
>>
>> So far I've deleted over 150 delivered but detected and quarentined by
>> the AV software. Deleted another 100 detected and isolated by
>> Bellsouth's Mailguard service. And spent the last hour and a half
>> running a scan disk on two computers just to make sure nothing got
>> through to the drives.
>>
>> Baiting sharks with their bleeding carcasses would be too kind for the
>> SOB's making these virsues up.
>>
>>
>> Rick Simms
>>
>
>Rick,
>I got over 400 of them yesterday alone. The AV software and browser got
>them all and it appears nothing got through.
>
>I do take exception to your proposed punishment. Absolute lack of
>consideration for the sharks.
>
>Andy

You're correct.

My apologies to the sharks.



Rick Simms

"To expect your government to save you
is to be a bystander in your own fate."

MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Old Goat (Old Goat C.I.D.)

> So far I've deleted over 150 delivered but detected and quarentined by
> the AV software. Deleted another 100 detected and isolated by
> Bellsouth's Mailguard service. And spent the last hour and a half
> running a scan disk on two computers just to make sure nothing got
> through to the drives.
>
> Baiting sharks with their bleeding carcasses would be too kind for the
> SOB's making these virsues up.

I just logged on for the first time since about noon and the rule I set up
sent more than 90 messages to the deleted files bin . . . and that's a
reduction in what I have been receiving over the last few days.

Now Dazed and Confuzed reports that his messages to me are boucing due to a
full inbox. If anybody else is having this problem, please keep trying.

Lee

I am curious to know why some people aren't surprised he was a padi
instructor and are they more or less surprised he was working for the
scouts? Was he a scout master? I know there is a long process here to have
anything to do with children, background checks, criminal records checks. Is
it the same everywhere? I am assuming not!

"Randy Cain" <tenndiver1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:182d37b7.0309192052.46fc4150@posting.google.c om...
> Robert <robert@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<kr6kmv026hfutffru80cjh1negq37lr9qm@4ax.com>. ..
> > Maybe he was following the DIR principles.
> >
> > Does not surprise me it is a PADI Instructor.
> >
> > Irrespective of my opinions,
> >
> > A good lawyer would argue that he was just following PADI guidelines
> > for the basic OW training. His hands might have slipped through. Maybe
> > it was a slimy pool. YMCA does not have a lot of resources.
> >
> > At most, probation and counseling.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Sep 2003 19:15:24 -0500, "Scuba News"
> > <always@on-topic.scubanews> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >CDNN News: PADI scuba instructor arrested, charged with molesting boys
> > >during scuba diving class
> > >
> > >http://www.cdnn.info/industry/i030916/i030916.html
>
> Couple of items of interest here:
>
> 1) Why does it not surprise you that it is a PADI Instructor? Are you
> stating that PADI instructors are more likely to be child molesters?
>
> 2) What does the YMCA have to do with a BSA Camp and PADI?
>
> 3) What does a slimy pool have to do with this particular case?
>
>
> Curious minds want to hear the answers!!!
>
> Randy

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:21:25 GMT, Alan Street <alan@nonono_irsi.com>
wrote:

>In article <3f6c9fce.16696250@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>, wrote:
>
>€On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:10:40 GMT, "Lee Bell"
>€<leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote:
>€
>€>"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
>€>news:Bcuab.46997$834.40887@twister.austin.rr.co m...
>€>> "Dan Bracuk" wrote ...
>€>> > What happens if you defy that edict?
>€>>
>€>> You get stuck applying MS security patches for the next year?
>€>
>€>Speaking of which, another worm virus hit yesterday. In the last 8 hours,
>€>I've received more than 100 copies of the newest Microsoft security patch
>€>plus a shitload of return messages indicating that outgoing messages to
>€>people I don't know, weren't delivered. I've confirmed I'm not infected,
>€>but it's 100% certain that one or more of those who have me in their address
>€>book are.
>€>
>€>Lee
>€>
>€
>€So far I've deleted over 150 delivered but detected and quarentined by
>€the AV software. Deleted another 100 detected and isolated by
>€Bellsouth's Mailguard service. And spent the last hour and a half
>€running a scan disk on two computers just to make sure nothing got
>€through to the drives.
>€
>€Baiting sharks with their bleeding carcasses would be too kind for the
>€SOB's making these virsues up.
>€
>€
>
>Agreed, although it just occured to me that this sort of virus could be
>used as an intelligence test of sorts. A savvy marketeer could develop
>a program that returned the address of everyone gullible enough to
>double click on the .exe file. They would then get a message that goes
>something like this:
>
>"By executing an application that only the most clueless wouldn't know
>was a virus, you've identified yourself as a person too stupid to
>operate a computer by yourself. To protect the on-line infrastructure
>of the world from people like you, we've developed a special computer
>system called WebTV. This system will allow you to surf the web and
>exchange e-mail without giving you enough control to actually damage
>anything. As a special offer, we've also identified a number of on-line
>forums particularily suited to the needs and capabilities of our
>special WebTV community. As a diver, we've bookmarked
>www.scubaboard.com specially for you. Please disconnect your computer
>from the internet now and start enjoying your new WebTV "Clueless
>Drooler" (tm) service."
>
>Alan

I love it.



Rick Simms

"To expect your government to save you
is to be a bystander in your own fate."

MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST