PADI Underwater Child Molester Specialty Course?

"Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> He fell down a flight of stairs.
>
> We were just fooling around and I accidentally hit him with the
> baseball bat.
>
> He said the gun was unloaded and was going to prove it.
>
> He said to throw him the knife and I'm too young to know not to take
> it literally.

Remember Sister Mary Elephant?

He fell several times onto a large fist-shaped rock...

Or, as we were instructed in basic;

"You catch a fucker stealing, you holler THIEF at the top of your lungs.
I'll take my time getting there, and wont see anything when I arrive."

Dillon Pyron wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:14:55 -0700, "Scott"
> <pugetsounddiver@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>><Joe> wrote in message news:grpok0tdqhnkhbbsscm1kt1uph1ukp4nr3@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>>>Interesting that he fondled all four. You'd think after the first one or
>>>>two, the others would have reacted. After all, they were 14 and 15 years
>>>>old and there were four of them. If someone did that to me and my
>>
>>friends
>>
>>>>when I was that age, the guy wouldn't have been arrested, we'd have dealt
>>>>with him ourselves.
>>
>>And been out of jail by 18, with the comfort of knowing that you rid the
>>earth of his shadow.
>>
>
>
> He fell down a flight of stairs.
>
> We were just fooling around and I accidentally hit him with the
> baseball bat.

Three times!

>
> He said the gun was unloaded and was going to prove it.
>
> He said to throw him the knife and I'm too young to know not to take
> it literally.
>


--
jer email reply - I am not a 'ten'
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

Scott wrote:
> <Joe> wrote in message
> news:grpok0tdqhnkhbbsscm1kt1uph1ukp4nr3@4ax.com...
>
>>> Interesting that he fondled all four. You'd think after the first
>>> one or two, the others would have reacted. After all, they were 14
>>> and 15 years old and there were four of them. If someone did that
>>> to me and my friends when I was that age, the guy wouldn't have
>>> been arrested, we'd have dealt with him ourselves.
>
> And been out of jail by 18, with the comfort of knowing that you rid
> the earth of his shadow.

Unless tried as an adult.
But I wonder.

A lot of my friends have seen a lot of death and many of them have killed.
Legally, in a time of war.
They haven't got over it yet.
They are bothered by the idea of killing.
They are human.

You brave souls, with your brave comments about killing a human, how many of
you have done it?

"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:bmJ3d.23728$eX7.2146@newssvr29.news.prodigy.c om...

> You brave souls, with your brave comments about killing a human, how many
> of
> you have done it?

I killed a lobster once. Boiled him alive.

Why would killing a human be any different?

In article <4150504e$0$104$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com>, Greg Mossman
<mossman@qnet.com> wrote:

€ "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
€ news:bmJ3d.23728$eX7.2146@newssvr29.news.prodigy.c om...
€
€ > You brave souls, with your brave comments about killing a human, how many
€ > of
€ > you have done it?
€
€ I killed a lobster once. Boiled him alive.
€
€ Why would killing a human be any different?
€
€

So we should start calling you "Cannibal Greg" now?

Greg Mossman wrote:

> "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:bmJ3d.23728$eX7.2146@newssvr29.news.prodigy.c om...
>
>
>>You brave souls, with your brave comments about killing a human, how many
>>of
>>you have done it?
>
>
> I killed a lobster once. Boiled him alive.
>
> Why would killing a human be any different?
>
>

None, assuming you were going to eat what you killed. If not for food,
what would be the point? Keeping in mind, adding chlorine to the gene
pool is not currently considered acceptable in civil societies,
volunteers excepted.

--
jer email reply - I am not a 'ten'
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:bmJ3d.23728$eX7.2146@newssvr29.news.prodigy.c om...
>
>> You brave souls, with your brave comments about killing a human, how many
>> of
>> you have done it?
>
> I killed a lobster once. Boiled him alive.
>
> Why would killing a human be any different?

Killing humans is addictive.

Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in news:cipllo$vl4@library2.airnews.net:


> None, assuming you were going to eat what you killed. If not for
> food, what would be the point?

I like to watch their eyes as they die.

[Sarah]

Sorry Lee but I have to object to this (and I know you weren't voicing a negative opinion on being gay). Although it's way off topic and I don't
want to get into a huge debate like those on rec.scuba, I have to mention
that there is no link whatsoever between being gay and child abuse. Most
abuse of boys is done by married / straight men. I know its very dull when
things get 'political' and I'll drop the subject now.

For starters the word "gay" is marketing double speak for homosexual. The word homosexual is devoid of politics and deception, something the word "gay" cannot make a legitimate claim to.

To say that there is no link to homosexuality and pedophilia is to engage in exactly what the homosexual marketing playbook instructs. This scripted marketing playbook was created by homosexual psychological marketers Marshal Kirk and Madsen, the latter writing under the pseudonym Erastes Pill. This scripted admittedly borrows from the Communist "Big Lie Technique" and from Hitler's "Mein Kampf" propaganda techniques.

The claim that "...most abuse is done by straight men" is about as completely honest as stating that males are more likely to experience injuries playing in the U.S. National Football League than females are.

The purpose behind the scripted claim is to deflect the reality that relative to their extremely limited numerical representation within society, male homosexuals disproportionately engage in pedophilia. From a marketing standpoint, such does not reflect positively upon the group, which is the impetus behind the deception.

Interestingly enough, the homosexual pedophilia link evidence comes primarily from homosexuals themselves.

But for those that are in total denial and are in fact sympathizers, dupes or operatives of the homosexual political agenda, then below is a list of scholarly documentation providing evidence that there is a HUGE link between homosexuality and pedophilia.

1. Dawn Fisher, "Adult Sex Offenders: Who are They? Why and How Do They Do It?" in Tony Morrison, et al., eds., Sexual Offending Against Children (London: Routledge, 1994), p. 11.
2. Kee MacFarlane, et al., Sexual Abuse of Young Children: Evaluation and Treatment (New York: The Guilford Press, 1986), p. 9.
3. John Briere, et al.,eds., The APSAC Handbook on Child Maltreatment (Thousand Oaks, California: Sage Publications, 1996), pp. 52, 53.
4. Kurt Freund, et al., "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 10 (Fall 1984): 198; See also Freund, K, and Watson, R. J., "The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Paedophiles among Sex Offenders against Children: an Exploratory Study," Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 18 (1992): 34.
5. Bill Watkins and Arnon Bentovim, "The Sexual Abuse of Male Children and Adolescents: A Review of Current Research," Journal of Child Psychiatry 33 (1992); in Byrgen Finkelman, Sexual Abuse (New York: Garland Publishing, 1995), p. 300.
6. MacFarlane, p. 9.
7. Kurt Freund, et al., "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 10 (1984): 197. "The proportional prevalence of offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent." See also, Kurt Freund, et al., "Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference," "Approximately one-third of these individuals had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls. This finding is consistent with the proportions reported in two earlier studies," p. 107.
8. Watkins and Bentovim, p. 315.
9. Robert L. Johnson, "Long-term Effects of Sexual Abuse in Boys," Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality (September 1988): 38.
10. "Understanding and Investigating Child Sexual Exploitation," (U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, 1997), p. 12.
11. Watkins and Bentovim, p. 302.
12. Dan Black, et al., "Demographics of the Gay and Lesbian Population in the United States: Evidence from Available Systematic Data Sources," Demography 37 (May 2000): 141.
13. John O. G. Billy, et al., "The Sexual Behavior of Men in the United States," Family Planning Perspectives 25 (March/April 1993): 58.
14. J. Gordon Muir, "Homosexuals and the 10 percent Fallacy," Wall Street Journal (March 31, 1993).
15. Milton Diamond, "Homosexuality and Bisexuality in Different Populations," Archives of Sexual Behavior 22 (1993):300.
16. Ibid. Significantly, a number of studies that were surveyed, and which skewed the overall percentages of homosexuals upwards, included such vague definers as those having had "any homosexual body contact." In contrast, one study that was limited to self-identifying homosexuals found that less than 2 percent of the male respondents considered their "sexual orientation" to be homosexual, p. 293.
17. Freund, "Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference," p. 107. In this and previous studies, Freund claims that homosexuals are no more likely than heterosexuals to be attracted to children (p. 115). However, Silverthorn, et al., mentions the limitations of studies by Freund and others: "Studies of homosexual male preferences are also limited. . . . The Freund et al.(1973) study was possibly compromised because the homosexual men used in the study were selected to be sexually attracted to adults, but not teenaged, males. The Bailey et al. (1994) study was limited in that it did not present participants with objective stimuli but simply asked participants to report what age of sexual partner they preferred . . . the Jankowiak et al. (1992) study . . . was limited in two ways: the homosexual male participants had a limited age range of 'middle-aged professionals' and the stimuli presented to participants were also of a limited age range ('university to middle-aged')." Silverthorn attempted to correct these deficiencies, and in his study found that homosexuals "preferred younger partners than those who preferred female partners"--including those as young as fifteen. Zebulon A. Silverthorne and Vernon L. Quinsey, "Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women," Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (February 2000): 67-76.
18. Ray Blanchard, et al., "Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles," Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (2000): 464.
19. John M. W. Bradford, et al., "The Heterogeneity/Homogeneity of Pedophilia," Psychiatric Journal of the University of Ottawa 13 (1988): 225. Elsewhere the study notes: "Researchers have variously estimated the incidence of homosexual pedophilia between 19 percent and 33 percent of reported molestations," p. 218.
20. Freund, "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," p. 197.
21. Michele Elliott, "Child Sexual Abuse Prevention: What Offenders Tell Us," Child Abuse and Neglect 19 (1995): 581.
22. W. L. Marshall, et al., "Sexual Offenders against Male Children: Sexual Preferences," Behavior Research and Therapy 26 (March 1988): 390.
22. James Bickley and Anthony R. Beech, "Classifying Child Abusers: Its Relevance to Theory and Clinical Practice," International Journal of Offender Therapy and Comparative Criminology 45 (2001): 56.
23. Krisin A. Danni, et al., "An Analysis of Predicators of Child Sex Offender Types Using Presentence Investigation Reports," International Journal of Offender Therapy and Comparative Criminology 44 (2000): 491.
24. Zebulon A. Silverthorne and Vernon L. Quinsey, "Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women," p.73.
25. Karla Jay and Allen Young, The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak Out about Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles (New York: Summit Books, 1979), p. 275
26. W. L. Marshall, et al., "Early Onset and Deviant Sexuality in Child Molesters," Journal of Interpersonal Violence 6 (1991): 323-336.
27. W. D. Erickson, "Behavior Patterns of Child Molesters," Archives of Sexual Behavior 17 (1988): 83.
28. John F. Harvey, O.S.F.S., The Homosexual Person: New Thinking in Pastoral Care (San Francisco: Ignatius Press:1987): 221
29. Thorstad is co?author, with John Lauritsen, of The early homosexual rights movement (1864?1935) (New York: Times Change Press, 1974).
30. David Thorstad, "May/Boy Love and the American Gay Movement" Journal of Homosexuality 20 (1990): 252.
31. George Archibald, "U.N. Group Keeps Ban on Gay Lobby," Washington Times (May 1, 2002).
32. Raymond-Jean Frontain, "The Works of Allen Ginsberg," Journal of Homosexuality 34 (1997): 109.
33. Mary Eberstadt, "'Pedophilia Chic' Reconsidered" The Weekly Standard 6 From the Gay Men's Press website: Gay Men's Press Internet Site
34. Tom O'Carroll, Paedophilia: The Radical Case (Boston:Alyson Publications, 1982).
35. Daniel Tsang, editor, The Age Taboo: Gay Male Sexuality, Power, and Consent (Boston: Alyson Publications ; London : Gay Men's Press, 1981), p. 144.
35. Helmut Graupner, "Love Versus Abuse: Crossgenerational Sexual Relations of Minors: A Gay Rights Issue?" Journal of Homosexuality 37 (1999): 23, 26.
36. Paula Martinac, "Mixed Messages on Pedophilia Need to be Clarified, Unified," Washington Blade (March 15, 2002).
37. Marie, E. Tomeo, et al., "Comparative Data of Childhood and Adolescence Molestation in Heterosexual and Homosexual Persons," Archives of Sexual Behavior 30 (2001): 539.
38. Harry W. Haverkos, et al., "The Initiation of Male Homosexual Behavior," The Journal of the American Medical Association 262 (July 28, 1989): 501.
39. Watkins and Bentovim, p. 316.
40. Gary A. Sawle, Jon Kear-Colwell, "Adult Attachment Style and Pedophilia: A Developmental Perspective," International Journal of Offender Therapy and Comparative Criminology 45 (February 2001):6.
41. Cathy Spatz Widom, "Victims of Childhood Sexual Abuse - Later Criminal Consequences," Victims of Childhood Sexual Abuse Series:NIJ Research in Brief, (March 1995): 6.