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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Dillon Pyron
 
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Default Semester

Well folks, the semester ended on the 16th, but we've been on vacation
since then, and my laptop was in the shop for a week (don't use
CompUSA).

Anatomy & Physiology 4 hours 97% A 16 credit
Intro to Psych 3 97% A 12
Philosophy Ethics 3 98% A 12
Intro to Public Speech 3 92% A 12


In other words 4.0 Four point oh!!!!
--
dillon

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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Popeye
 
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"Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:jlunr1tv8pr40erctmkffrdn0tr9mujll2@4ax.com...
> Well folks, the semester ended on the 16th, but we've been on vacation
> since then, and my laptop was in the shop for a week (don't use
> CompUSA).
>
> Anatomy & Physiology 4 hours 97% A 16 credit
> Intro to Psych 3 97% A 12
> Philosophy Ethics 3 98% A 12
> Intro to Public Speech 3 92% A 12
>
>
> In other words 4.0 Four point oh!!!!


Congrats, Dillon!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course..;

We wouldn't have expected anything less.


> --
> dillon
>
> 666 permissions of the beast



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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Hostlbuddha
 
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Bjórrúnar skaltu Dillon Pyron <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> rista

> Philosophy Ethics 3 98% A 12


Obviously your prof didn't read your posts here.
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Grumman-581
 
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"Dillon Pyron" wrote in message
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> In other words 4.0 Four point oh!!!!


I've had semesters like that before... They were all CS courses, of
course... There's a certain satisfaction to being on the Dean's List one
semester right after being on academic probation from the previous semester
(I had only taken one class -- Statistics -- for that summer semester)...


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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Reef Fish
 
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Grumman-581 wrote:
> "Dillon Pyron" wrote in message
> news:jlunr1tv8pr40erctmkffrdn0tr9mujll2@4ax.com...
> > In other words 4.0 Four point oh!!!!


Did anyone have a grade point LESS than 4.0?

This is a serious comment, not to mean that it applies to Dillon.
In today's grade-inflation and make-everyone-feel-good
environment, every student expects to get an A in every course.
Whether they should have passed or flunked is beside the point.

I had quit the rat race 5 years ago when most of the professors
and administrators sold their souls to the Devil to appease the
students. I graded the students on their comprehension of the
course material taught. 75% was a guaranteed A and 40% a
passing D.

In a typical class of size 40 for an undergrad course, usually
20 or more had dropped before the course was finished, and
many of those classes had only 2 or 3 A's, and several F's
among those who had NOT dropped.

That was AFTER I had watered down the course (which I had
taught for 25 years) to such a low level that any further erosion
of standards would have been a crime. The other students
enrolled in the same course taught by others would get mostly
As and hardly any one ever flunked in those sections.

Every semester students would line up at the Department
Chairs office complaining about my teaching -- to no avail.

But the saddest consequence of this erosion of learning hand-
in-hand with grade inflation is that I have found (in the
sci.stat.math newsgroup this year) that some of the PROFESSORS
and TEACHERS of statistics are worse than some of those I
had flunked in the first course in statistics! No exaggeration.

Just do a keyword search on any of these words "quacks",
"blackmagic" and "malpractice" in the ng sci.stat.math, and
you'll see why. Below were some of the threads I initiated:


Newsgroups: sci.stat.math,sci.stat.edu
Subject: Educators or Salesmen Who Sold Their Souls to the Devil?
Date: 12 May 2005 11:36:02 -0700

This thread ran 285 posts, by 35 discussants.

Newsgroups: sci.stat.math,sci.stat.edu
Subject: My Editorial on Exams, Grades, and (Statistical) Education
Date: 11 May 2005 20:54:42 -0700

which ran 231 posts, by 24 discussants.

Below is the excerpt of my verbal discription of a cartoon, which is
VERY relevant to the phenomenon of "ALL A's":

I am reading a fascinating book about Paul Erdos (the eccentric
mathematician) now, in which there is a cartoon from Doonsbury about
this "grade inflation" phenomenon.

I can't reproduce the cartoon here, but will describe it so you'll
get the idea:

Frame 1: Professor thinking, "seems logical ..."

Frame 2: Professor thinking, "But is it politically tenable?"

Frame 3: Chairman of Department talking to Professor, "Jules,
I've been meaning to talk to you about that B+ you
handed out last month."

Frame 4: "As Chairman of the Math Department, I think I was
entitled to some warning. You must have known it
would provoke a firestorm."

Frame 5: Professor, "Actually Tom, I didn't. I thought it was
still possible to assign a grade based on performance
and merit."

Frame 6: Chairman, "That's a bit naive, Jules. This is a new
generation of students. They insist on a decent comfort
level."

Frame 7: Chairman, "It doesn't matter if you have a kid who believes
1 + 1 = 3. From now on, work AROUND it!"

Frame 8: Professor, "Work around it?"
Chairman, "Jules, you have to make math ACCESSIBLE."


And what about this:

Newsgroups: sci.stat.math,sci.stat.edu
Subject: An absurdity in High School Valedictorians' GPA
Date: 29 May 2005 10:06:15 -0700

This was based on a newspaper article of the Valedictorians
in Choo-Choo, with my comment:

RF> But the real absurdity is that 15 (FIFTEEN) of them had
RF> GPA that exceeded the "perfect" 4.0, ranging from 4.1 to 4.57!

Dillon, you'd better work a bit harder! ;^)


> I've had semesters like that before... They were all CS courses, of
> course... There's a certain satisfaction to being on the Dean's List one
> semester right after being on academic probation from the previous semester
> (I had only taken one class -- Statistics -- for that summer semester)...


May be the Dean had a few words with those professors who had put
you in the unthinkable state of an "academic probation". The
professors
learned to work around whatever crap you had produced and put
you in your "comfort zone", by assigning the automatic "A"!

Now it didn't seem as bad as it was when readers in rec.scuba didn't
know for YEARS that a statistical "mode" is not an "average". Jammer
is still wallowing in his ignorance about those terms.

-- Bob.

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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Rod
 
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On 6 Jan 2006 14:46:35 -0800, "Reef Fish"
<Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:

<cut a bunch of self serving dribble>

Retired from "the rat race" and you were a teacher ? I'd hate to hear
what you would call a jambed zipper

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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Reef Fish
 
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Rod wrote:
> On 6 Jan 2006 14:46:35 -0800, "Reef Fish"
> <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> <cut a bunch of self serving dribble>
>
> Retired from "the rat race" and you were a teacher ?


Yes, from a profession full of those who sold their souls to the Devil
in their rat race to appease the sorry product of what they produced
in society today.

> I'd hate to hear what you would call a jambed zipper


A "Rod"?

-- Bob.

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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Reef Fish
 
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Popeye wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1136587595.675859.206930@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> > Grumman-581 wrote:
> >> "Dillon Pyron" wrote in message
> >> news:jlunr1tv8pr40erctmkffrdn0tr9mujll2@4ax.com...
> >> > In other words 4.0 Four point oh!!!!

> >
> > Did anyone have a grade point LESS than 4.0?


That was in part with reference to the Doonsbury cartoon, about what
the
Dean having confront the professor who shocked the world by giving a
grade of B+.
>
> Yes, most of us drunks.
>
> I'm getting my ass kicked up here, Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeef, where ya been?


The asses I kicked are those who called themselves "educators" while
they are salesmen of diplomas/degrees not worth the paper on which
it's printed.

You confirmed my suspicion that you didn't get either of the e-mail I
sent
you within the last two weeks -- one around Christmas, and another a
few
days ago asking if you ever got it. Send me a line so I know I have
your
current e-mail address.
>
> Jammer says there's no such thing as 102%!


Nodubya Bush used to say he supported this-or-that 1,000%,

> I had all my tinkertoys out, but couldn't count that high.


I saw a news article yesterday about the discovery of the largest prime
number -- which meant only the largest known number that is prime
because there is no such thing as the largest prime number. That
number is something of the order of 2 to the power 300,000,000+.
That puts googol (not google), which is 1 followed by 100 zeros, to
shame. In your spare time, you can start counting the number of
digits in that largest known prime.
>
> I though you had my back?


Nah. Don't think you ever claimed to be an "educator" in an
"institution of higher learning". Did you?

-- Bob.

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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Popeye
 
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"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136587595.675859.206930@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> Grumman-581 wrote:
>> "Dillon Pyron" wrote in message
>> news:jlunr1tv8pr40erctmkffrdn0tr9mujll2@4ax.com...
>> > In other words 4.0 Four point oh!!!!

>
> Did anyone have a grade point LESS than 4.0?


Yes, most of us drunks.

I'm getting my ass kicked up here, Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeef, where ya been?

Jammer says there's no such thing as 102%!

I had all my tinkertoys out, but couldn't count that high.

I though you had my back?


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Old 03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Matthias Voss
 
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Rod wrote:

> O
>>>
>>>I had quit the rat race 5 years ago when most of the professors
>>>and administrators sold their souls to the Devil to appease the
>>>students. I graded the students on their comprehension of the
>>>course material taught. 75% was a guaranteed A and 40% a
>>>passing D.
>>>

>>
>>Students with only 40% passed????
>>Michael Wolf



> Well he did say he was stressed by the rat race of being a teacher
> (cough)


We have a saying that teachers are right in the morning, and
off duty in the afternoon.

Matthias

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