Sinus Infection from Scuba

"Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> chilly wrote:
>
> >>
> >>>"Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
> >>>news:dv7572$gb7$00$1@news.t-online.com...
> >>>
> >>>>chilly wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I hope you are headed for the doctor's office soon. You probaby
> >
> > have
> >
> >>an
> >>
> >>>>>inner ear infection
> >>>>
> >>>>That's a bit far fetched.
> >>>
> >>>Why do you think so?
>
> See below. Inner ear is not he same as middle ear.

OK, my bad. I meant inner as opposed to outter.

In any event, I suspect we are agreed. The guy should get himself to a
doctor for a diagnosis.

In his original post he requested advice and cites as to what could happen
to him. May I hope that you and I agree that he has at least received that
much?

chilly wrote:

> "Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
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>>chilly wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>"Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>>>news:dv7572$gb7$00$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>chilly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope you are headed for the doctor's office soon. You probaby
>>>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>>an
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>inner ear infection
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's a bit far fetched.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why do you think so?
>>
>>See below. Inner ear is not he same as middle ear.
>
>
> OK, my bad. I meant inner as opposed to outter.
>
> In any event, I suspect we are agreed. The guy should get himself to a
> doctor for a diagnosis.
>
> In his original post he requested advice and cites as to what could happen
> to him. May I hope that you and I agree that he has at least received that
> much?

There is still one advice not given:
Not to expect that any remedy might be an instant solution.
To live through it and accept that it may take some time,
and that the body can fight it for a good part with his own
resources.

When I began diving, I had a similar event. Yellow/red clots
when sneezing.. Forgot to equalize because I was stunned by
the viz down to 70 ft.
Pain between one ear and the jaw, blocked tubes for about 3
days. Went all by itself. With a little luck.

Matthias

"Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> >
> > In his original post he requested advice and cites as to what could
happen
> > to him. May I hope that you and I agree that he has at least received
that
> > much?
>
> There is still one advice not given:
> Not to expect that any remedy might be an instant solution.
> To live through it and accept that it may take some time,
> and that the body can fight it for a good part with his own
> resources.

Agreed. However, didn't he say he had been suffering for over a week now
and there has been little improvement?

> When I began diving, I had a similar event. Yellow/red clots
> when sneezing.. Forgot to equalize because I was stunned by
> the viz down to 70 ft.
> Pain between one ear and the jaw, blocked tubes for about 3
> days. Went all by itself. With a little luck.

:^) Sounds disgusting.

When I was a new diver, I don't think I ever had something like that as a
result of my poor equalization efforts. However, I had my share of 'middle'
ear infections. And I still get an outer ear infection now and again.

OK - folks - very many thanks for taking this seriously (well most of
you anyway) and for the pointers and info. Whatever it was is now
clearing up, but I've now got a runny nose from the damned English
weather. Maybe this'll flush out the mucus!!

Before I went diving I was under the impression that in order to
equalise it might be a good idea to clear the outer ears with ear wax
removal drops. But as is opined above perhaps it is best to leave wax
in there as a protective. Also I like the idea of applying baby oil
into the ears just before diving.

Incidently my instructor opined that Jonson's baby shampoo is good for
cleaning masks with on the grounds that the ingredients are declared
and known (unlike commercial defogging compounds), that if it is safe
for babies' eyes then it is probably safe for adults', and that you get
a lot for the price.

The sinus infection wasn't expected but this wont put me off diving.
And now I know a little better what to expect and how to attempt to
prevent it.

Very many thanks to everyone -

CJB.

CJB wrote:

> OK - folks - very many thanks for taking this seriously (well most of
> you anyway) and for the pointers and info. Whatever it was is now
> clearing up, but I've now got a runny nose from the damned English
> weather.

At it's best.

Maybe this'll flush out the mucus!!

Watch you brains.


>
> Before I went diving I was under the impression that in order to
> equalise it might be a good idea to clear the outer ears with ear wax
> removal drops.

It is. But not to ease equalizing but when you've got a
condition where this would help.
It is called "swimmers ears". People doing a lot of
training, swimming, diving in called waters may see their
most exposed tissues in the outer ear swell and grow bony
extensions which, in consequence, may impede the backflush
of water entering the outer ear cavities ( we all probably
have found us doing this one legged limping limbo, to get
rid of these gurgling noises in the ears.
Right. That's to help the water get over ever so little
obstructions in the outer ears. These obstructions may be
made up of self grown wax. The wax removal drops may help
here, especially when combined with a rubber/silicone
rubber( to be preferred) bulb syring which you will use to
flush your outer ear with clean well-tempered water.

_DO NOT_ mix up the syringes designated for either left, or
right ear, unless you want to give those nasty germs a free
ride from one side to another.

Also, _ DO NOT_ mix up the syringes meant for sucking with
those meant for flushing.
Explanation: Sooner or later you will arrive at a condition
when your ears really hurt, and discover that flushing will
help, but will better help with flushing followed by sucking
dry. May be all done with the same type of bulb syringe, but
please not with the same one. Unless desinfected.
Desinfect as much as you can, especially the suck syringes.



But as is opined above perhaps it is best to leave wax
> in there as a protective. Also I like the idea of applying baby oil
> into the ears just before diving.

Right!. Baby oil, medical olive oil, medical almond oil. You
will feel your ears liking it.
But: remember to flush, and clean. Some oils will develop
waxy residues.

Have your ENT specialist clean your ears before you go diving.
And, have him/her look up after you got a problem, even when
you think you resolved it by your own means.

Matthias

Thus spake "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> :

>
>"Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
>news:dv7iq1$j9d$00$3@news.t-online.com...
>> chilly wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >>>"Matthias Voss" <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> >>>news:dv7572$gb7$00$1@news.t-online.com...
>> >>>
>> >>>>chilly wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I hope you are headed for the doctor's office soon. You probaby
>> >
>> > have
>> >
>> >>an
>> >>
>> >>>>>inner ear infection
>> >>>>
>> >>>>That's a bit far fetched.
>> >>>
>> >>>Why do you think so?
>>
>> See below. Inner ear is not he same as middle ear.
>
>OK, my bad. I meant inner as opposed to outter.
>
>In any event, I suspect we are agreed. The guy should get himself to a
>doctor for a diagnosis.
>
>In his original post he requested advice and cites as to what could happen
>to him. May I hope that you and I agree that he has at least received that
>much?
>

We're all stooopid enough to ask questions like "My foot is all
swollen and black. I dropped a bowling ball on it last week. What
should I do?"
--
dillon

Could have been is in the past
Could be is in the future
There is only the now

"Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Thus spake "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> :
>
> >
> >Instead of being diagnosed by either one of us here.
> >
> Yeah, but I'd enjoy the cough test a whole lot more if you did it. Now
> the DRE I can skip entirely if my life didn't depend on it.

:^)

chilly wrote:
> "Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:qehh12pe0c4gdarpsm69gvjgcjd48886d5@4ax.com...
>
>>Thus spake "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> :
>>
>>
>>>In his original post he requested advice and cites as to what could
>
> happen
>
>>>to him. May I hope that you and I agree that he has at least received
>
> that
>
>>>much?
>>>
>>
>>We're all stooopid enough to ask questions like "My foot is all
>>swollen and black. I dropped a bowling ball on it last week. What
>>should I do?"
>
>
> Don't go bowling anymore.
>
>
>
drop it on your other foot maybe you won't need fins