Surviving diver recounts horror of Baja Mexico dive trip

"Alan Shepard's Tiny Penis" <fraudulent_gear_tests@rodales.com> wrote

> That's easy! Anyone with at least a third-grade education who
> understands the meaning of "plagiarize" and can spell "gray".
>

it's Grey you undereducated Yank!! try and write English, not that horrid
corrupted Americanese.

I bet you misspell colour too.

rhys

Alan Shepard's Tiny Penis wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:43:21 +0000 (UTC), David Parkinson
> <dparkins@alien.bt.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:25:18 GMT, Alan Shepard's Tiny Penis
> ><fraudulent_gear_tests@rodales.com> wrote:
> >
> >>That's easy! Anyone with at least a third-grade education who
> >>understands the meaning of "plagiarize" and can spell "gray".
> >
> >At least in the UK we're generally better than third-grade and can
> >manage the correct spelling of GREY! :)
> >
> >David
> >
>
> But that's only because limeys worship whores like Princess Di, the
> Spice Girls and David Beckham. God fuck the queen's royal ass!

big words from baby dick.

<From: "rnf2">
I bet you misspell colour too.>

Maybe, but I'll bet he can spell "July 4th"!

(^ = ^)

"IRBYJR" <irbyjr@aol.com> wrote

> > I bet you misspell colour too.
>
>
> Maybe, but I'll bet he can spell "July 4th"!
>
> (^ = ^)

Thats when you started a new language called americanese, and lost the
ability to call what you speak and write "English" because you were no
longer English.
If you want to be able to state you speak and write english, then you follow
the English spellings. Otherwise it's not english.

rhys

>
>> > I bet you misspell colour too.
>>
>>
>> Maybe, but I'll bet he can spell "July 4th"!
>>
>> (^ = ^)
>
>Thats when you started a new language called americanese, and lost the
>ability to call what you speak and write "English" because you were no
>longer English.
>If you want to be able to state you speak and write english, then you follow
>the English spellings. Otherwise it's not english.
>
>rhys
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Sounds reasonable. OK by me!

Being from the home town of astonaut Alan Shepard I have to
wonder......................whats up with that nickname?

"Alan Shepard's Tiny Penis" <fraudulent_gear_tests@rodales.com> wrote in
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> On 15 Nov 2003 20:39:32 -0800, babette7401@hotmail.com (Salty) wrote:
>
> >"Dive News" <always@on.topic.always> wrote in message
news:<3fb64599$0$27727$45beb828@newscene.com>...
> >
> >> Surviving diver recounts horror of Baja Mexico dive trip
> >> http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s031114a/s031114a.html
> >
> >Having been diving there two years in a row and my most recent trip
> >was with Ken Kurtis just 6 or 8 weeks ago... and having been diving
> >with the alledged guilty dive operation, Baja Expeditions, I am left
> >shaking my head at the account of this incident.
> >
> >The diver who died was a woman named Vrooman, who was 77 yrs old. I
> >don't see the age of the person who was her buddy...a woman named
> >Hoover, someone who had been Vrooman's buddy for 13 yrs of diving
> >trips. The account is given by Scott Jones.
> >
> >He says... "Marilyn and Katie were very in tune to each other. They
> >were never more than 5 or 6 ft apart." From the report : "Suddenly
> >there was a sea surge, he said, which the dive master never warned
> >them about. Suddenly Vrooman was separated from Hoover and Jones from
> >his dive partner, he said. "The surge was coming in and out", he
> >said. "I saw Katie by herself and I knew something was wrong. Katie
> >was never by herself." And then he said, Vrooman disappeared. Jones
> >said he went to the surface and inflated his BCD. It was then that he
> >saw the surge throw Vrooman twice against the rocks and boulders."
> >
> >The account gets stranger and stanger by the minute from there.
> >
> >After diving there, it wouldn't take a dive master's briefing for me
> >to understand that there was the potential of a strong surge in many
> >areas. I don't think that any diver would need a diver master to point
> >that out if the diver had a fair amount of experience with shore
> >diving. And this victim was a supposedly a woman who had been diving
> >at least 13 yrs ?? She was 77 yrs old... think maybe she just
> >shouldn't have diving in those conditions at her age ?? The witness
> >goes on to say how he took his gear off and tried mouth to mouth resus
> >with her, etc. Where was the boat at this time ?? This account is
> >beyond belief.
>
> Good post! The lack of information about any emergency response by
> the dive boat involved is indeed puzzling. One thing is clear from
> recent accident reports. There has been an increase in accidents
> involving lost divers. Something to keep in mind when planning a
> drift dive halfway around the world on the "MV Myopic Paradise".

Not to be picky, but isn't it amazing how CDNN's "best choice" gear is made
by their sponsors?

I guess the pot is calling the kettle a little black, maybe?

--


Briggs Christie
Oahu Dive Center
Kailua, Hawaii
1-866-933-DIVE
www.oahudivecenter.com
"Alan Shepard's Tiny Penis" <fraudulent_gear_tests@rodales.com> wrote in
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> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:04:35 GMT, "Oahu Dive Center"
> <res1iryt@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >"They have reprinted the account as it appears in another
> >paper. If the first account is wrong, it isn't CDNN's fault now is it"
> >
> >It is if they reprint it as if it was their own. "Responsible journalism"
> >and all that means that you verify the accuracy of your source material
and,
> >if you can't, you don't print it. Something that CDNN seems to ignore a
lot
> >of the time.
> >
> >Sensationalistic reporting sure is popular these days, though...
>
>
> Aloha Christie! Noticed that your "we built it in an hour" web site
> features Rodale's and its Top 100 stuff-the-ballot-box scam. Since
> you are obviously attempting to promote your business with yet another
> Rodale's marketing scam, it would certainly appear you have a vested
> interest in supporting Rodale's and criticizing anyone who questions
> their integrity. BTW, isn't Rodale's Top 100 the same promotional
> scam that rated Rodale's advertiser Kelly's On the Bay/Aqua Nut Divers
> the best dive op in Florida? As I recall, that was about a month or
> so after they were convicted of gross negligence for returning to base
> without two of their boat diving customers AND FAILING TO NOTICE THE
> DIVERS WERE MISSING despite two missing scuba tanks and two
> unaccounted for gear bags on the deck of the boat? Evidently all you
> have to do to win is advertise with Rodale's, demonstrate that you're
> too stupid to count, and get convicted of gross negligence. Good luck
> Christie with the magazine Oahu Dive Center trusts!

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:19:20 GMT, "Oahu Dive Center"
<res1iryt@verizon.net> wrote:

>Not to be picky, but isn't it amazing how CDNN's "best choice" gear is made
>by their sponsors?
>

No, it's not. But what is amazing is that you deliberately lied which
confirms that Oahu Dive Center is on the same page as Rodale's, your
wannabe partner in marketing scams and other crimes against the diving
public. Also amazing is that you incorrectly stated that the scuba
equipment ratings are part of the CDNN site. I have never seen a
scuba equipment rating in CDNN--only recall notices, consumer alerts
and a few new product press releases. Even more amazing is that you
failed to notice all of the other NON-SPONSOR equipment manufacturers
that got "Best Buys" or "Best Gear" ratings, and that many of the
sponsor competitors were rated more often and above sponsor products.
And still more amazing, is that you neglected to mention that of the
37 "Best Buy" equipment listings (I just counted them), Suunto, a
sponsor, was NOTlisted at all. WHAT??? Cyber Diver did not feature
their sponsor as a Best Buy product??? NOW THAT REALLY IS AMAZING.
And although one of Suunto's products tied for the best dive computer
rating, Cyber Diver listed the non-sponsor company above the
sponsor!#% WOW! Anyway Christie, best wishes for continued success
distorting the truth and colluding with Rodale's to defraud the diving
public!

"I have never seen a
scuba equipment rating in CDNN"

http://i-planet.org/cyberdiver/gear/...yersguide.html

Oh yeah, THAT equipment rating page.

"Even more amazing is that you failed to notice all of the other NON-SPONSOR
equipment manufacturers that got "Best Buys" or "Best Gear" ratings"

You mean on the ratings page that you've never seen?

"And still more amazing, is that you neglected to mention that of the 37
"Best Buy" equipment listings (I just counted them), Suunto, a sponsor, was
NOTlisted at all. WHAT??? Cyber Diver did not feature their sponsor as a
Best Buy product???"

Really? I see the Suunto Vytec as the top-rated computer at 9.8 on the page
noted above. And their "new gear" page is a full-page ad for it.

http://i-planet.org/cyberdiver/gear/...r/newgear.html

"best wishes for continued success distorting the truth and colluding with
Rodale's to defraud the diving public!"

Let's see...what was it that I was lying about again? The CDNN sponsor is
the top-rated gear and the new product full-page feature. Where excactly did
I distort that?


--


Briggs Christie
Oahu Dive Center
Kailua, Hawaii
1-866-933-DIVE
www.oahudivecenter.com
"Alan Shepard's Tiny Penis" <fraudulent_gear_tests@rodales.com> wrote in
message news:51db5fe8ea4a275b29337acf66170ab4@news.teranew s.com...
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:19:20 GMT, "Oahu Dive Center"
> <res1iryt@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Not to be picky, but isn't it amazing how CDNN's "best choice" gear is
made
> >by their sponsors?
> >
>
> No, it's not. But what is amazing is that you deliberately lied which
> confirms that Oahu Dive Center is on the same page as Rodale's, your
> wannabe partner in marketing scams and other crimes against the diving
> public. Also amazing is that you incorrectly stated that the scuba
> equipment ratings are part of the CDNN site. I have never seen a
> scuba equipment rating in CDNN--only recall notices, consumer alerts
> and a few new product press releases. Even more amazing is that you
> failed to notice all of the other NON-SPONSOR equipment manufacturers
> that got "Best Buys" or "Best Gear" ratings, and that many of the
> sponsor competitors were rated more often and above sponsor products.
> And still more amazing, is that you neglected to mention that of the
> 37 "Best Buy" equipment listings (I just counted them), Suunto, a
> sponsor, was NOTlisted at all. WHAT??? Cyber Diver did not feature
> their sponsor as a Best Buy product??? NOW THAT REALLY IS AMAZING.
> And although one of Suunto's products tied for the best dive computer
> rating, Cyber Diver listed the non-sponsor company above the
> sponsor!#% WOW! Anyway Christie, best wishes for continued success
> distorting the truth and colluding with Rodale's to defraud the diving
> public!
>
>

"Alan Shepard's Tiny Penis" wrote

> I have never seen a
> scuba equipment rating in CDNN--only recall notices, consumer alerts
> and a few new product press releases.

Even more amazing is that you
> failed to notice all of the other NON-SPONSOR equipment manufacturers
> that got "Best Buys" or "Best Gear" ratings, and that many of the
> sponsor competitors were rated more often and above sponsor products.

Ummm, there seems to be something wrong with these two statements.