Cozumel weather at Thanksgiving

We're going to CZM the week after Thanksgiving. Having only been
there in late spring-summer, what's the weather like that time of the
year. And what's the water temp? Do we need to bring some sort of
wetsuit with us (shorty or john)?

TIA
--
dillon

When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark
and the horse's name was Bob.

"Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> We're going to CZM the week after Thanksgiving. Having only been
> there in late spring-summer, what's the weather like that time of the
> year. And what's the water temp? Do we need to bring some sort of
> wetsuit with us (shorty or john)?

At that time of year it will probably rain a lot, or it might not. There
may be a hurricane coming through. Or you could have perfect diving
conditions. The air will be warm and humid. The water temp will be 80
degrees exactly (give or take a couple degrees). You may or may not need
thermal protection depending on your own personal needs.

Hope that helps.

Greg Mossman wrote:

> "Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:v4qkg0pgtjgtsrmm8fgii891rh2r7tmdjh@4ax.com...
>
>>We're going to CZM the week after Thanksgiving. Having only been
>>there in late spring-summer, what's the weather like that time of the
>>year. And what's the water temp? Do we need to bring some sort of
>>wetsuit with us (shorty or john)?
>
>
> At that time of year it will probably rain a lot, or it might not. There
> may be a hurricane coming through. Or you could have perfect diving
> conditions. The air will be warm and humid. The water temp will be 80
> degrees exactly (give or take a couple degrees). You may or may not need
> thermal protection depending on your own personal needs.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
It helped me, can I hold you to it?

"Joe English" <jenglish@accessusn.net> wrote in message
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> It helped me, can I hold you to it?

And here I thought you were beyond help. Sure you can, or I promise your
money back.

BTW, happened to stop by Coz last week when I was in the neighborhood.
Adrian gives his regards to Bob (told me he's the only one left on the
island that will put up with his 200' bounce dives) and I must say they are
one great dive op. So laid back that they didn't even check my C-card nor
make me fill out or sign any sort of paperwork. We were completely
undocumented divers who could have disappeared without a trace and no one
would have known better. Four dives with not so much as a single briefing.
I loved it and tipped heavily. Aldora still sucks. Cabellitos rules!

(Full report to follow if I feel like it)

"Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> We're going to CZM the week after Thanksgiving. Having only been
> there in late spring-summer, what's the weather like that time of the
> year. And what's the water temp? Do we need to bring some sort of
> wetsuit with us (shorty or john)?
>
> TIA
> --
> dillon
>
The Atlantic hurricane season typically runs from June 1 through November
30. The worst months for hurricanes historically are August, September, and
October.

From November to May the temperatures in Cozumel average 25 degree Celsius
(77 degrees Fahrenheit). The weather is breezy with low humidity. From
October to December there can be strong winds all over the Yucatan as well
as rain. May to September is considered the rainy season.

Water temeratures average about the same, 77-78 degrees. I was more than
comfortable in a Polartec.

"Randy Buckner" <Randybuckner@att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dillon Pyron" <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:v4qkg0pgtjgtsrmm8fgii891rh2r7tmdjh@4ax.com...
> > We're going to CZM the week after Thanksgiving. Having only been
> > there in late spring-summer, what's the weather like that time of the
> > year. And what's the water temp? Do we need to bring some sort of
> > wetsuit with us (shorty or john)?
> >
> > TIA
> > --
> > dillon
> >
> The Atlantic hurricane season typically runs from June 1 through November
> 30. The worst months for hurricanes historically are August, September,
and
> October.
>
> From November to May the temperatures in Cozumel average 25 degree Celsius
> (77 degrees Fahrenheit). The weather is breezy with low humidity. From
> October to December there can be strong winds all over the Yucatan as well
> as rain. May to September is considered the rainy season.
>
> Water temeratures average about the same, 77-78 degrees. I was more than
> comfortable in a Polartec.
>
>

Randy's review is dead on.....

I ran a thanksgiving Cozumel trip for 13 years consecutively and water temps
run in the high 70's more often than low 80's.

Rain and wind if you have the North wind. If you have the wind from the
North it will come from the NW and the reef side (diving side) of the island
gets very rough. It will rain hard and most often the "Northers" last 2 to 3
days. Then calm.

The last big November hurricane in Cozumel was hurricane Keith.....one month
following hurricane Gilbert.

Cozumel diving this past week was very good. Eagle rays, many turtles, nurse
sharks and good water weather. The group observed an 8 foot scalloped
hammerhead on the surface just North of Tormentos reef. The boat follow the
shark for over 30 minutes for photos. The shark circled the boat and stayed
with fin breaking the water the entire time. 84 degree water, light current
some chalky water due to heavy rain this summer. A very unusal summer for
rain. The island has had a lot of rain. Visibility still at 80 to 100
ft....probably more on most dives.

Forest Aten

"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Adrian is a great guy and DM, but I'll tell him personally, very soon,
> that he was wrong! Actually he was telling YOU what he knew wasn't
> true, just so you wouldn't go too far beyond YOUR own limit.

Nope. I was upfront with him about my refusal to go below 30' unless on
trimix.

> Most people I know who dived with them said the same thing, but the
> other stuff you said about the shop is not true, for the most part,
> for most folks. Otherwise, it would be a BAD MARK for any shop in
> Cozumel not to check the C-cards, even for loud-mouths.

Oh, yeah, I guess so. I think I told them over the phone that I was
certified when I made the reservation. I must have an honest face.

> That's a NEGATIVE. They must have been rushed and somebody might
> have believed your tall tale about yourself.

Well Adrian certainly wasn't going to let me bounce dive to 200' without
showing him my PADI Bounce Diving Specialty card.

> I'll find out what you consider "heavily" and how big a cheapskate
> you were.

Actually it wasn't all that heavy but it was all the cash that I had brought
with me that I figured I could spare and still have enough left to get my
car out of the lot in Playa del Carmen. $10 to the driver and $30 to Adrian
for the two of us. That's heavily enough for Mexico.

> It helps if you spelled it correctly, if not fully:

It helps if you don't mix tenses, such as "it helps if you spell it
correctly" or "would help if you spelled it correctly", but who's counting?
Say hi to Adrian for me and tip him some more if you don't think I tipped
enough. On the other hand, if you think I overtipped, demand a refund and
buy yourself a virgin margarita.

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message news:<4116c5a0$0$106$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com>...
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8fb7380b.0408081541.2969b25b@posting.google.c om...
>
> > Adrian is a great guy and DM, but I'll tell him personally, very soon,
> > that he was wrong! Actually he was telling YOU what he knew wasn't
> > true, just so you wouldn't go too far beyond YOUR own limit.
>
> Nope. I was upfront with him about my refusal to go below 30' unless on
> trimix.

Remind me what's the third ingredient of your trimix besides, rum and
taquila.

>
> > Most people I know who dived with them said the same thing, but the
> > other stuff you said about the shop is not true, for the most part,
> > for most folks. Otherwise, it would be a BAD MARK for any shop in
> > Cozumel not to check the C-cards, even for loud-mouths.
>
> Oh, yeah, I guess so. I think I told them over the phone that I was
> certified when I made the reservation. I must have an honest face.

I didn't realize they have video phone in Coz now. Else they might
have been watching an old TV of Nizon waving his fingers, rolling his
eyes, muttering "I am not a crook" and they thought it was you on
the phone.

>
> > That's a NEGATIVE. They must have been rushed and somebody might
> > have believed your tall tale about yourself.
>
> Well Adrian certainly wasn't going to let me bounce dive to 200' without
> showing him my PADI Bounce Diving Specialty card.

That's the one PADI Specialty I missed. But you would have lay off
your trimix sauce before Adrian would let you do the PADI Bounce
Diving Specialty max depth of 60 feet.

>
> > I'll find out what you consider "heavily" and how big a cheapskate
> > you were.
>
> Actually it wasn't all that heavy but it was all the cash that I had brought
> with me that I figured I could spare and still have enough left to get my
> car out of the lot in Playa del Carmen. $10 to the driver and $30 to Adrian
> for the two of us. That's heavily enough for Mexico.

I've seen less.

>
> > It helps if you spelled it correctly, if not fully:
>
> It helps if you don't mix tenses, such as "it helps if you spell it
> correctly" or "would help if you spelled it correctly", but who's counting?

I thought for a minute you were saying your "cabellitos" was a
tense conjugation of "caballito".

Besides, what you alluded to is not "tenses". It's called the
subjunctive MOOD in the silly English language, such as "if bull frogs
had wings, they wouldn't bump their asses." But it's been so long since
I learned that in a Chinese grade school that I may have been wrong,
as in one previous occasion -- when I thought I was wrong.


> Say hi to Adrian for me and tip him some more if you don't think I tipped
> enough. On the other hand, if you think I overtipped, demand a refund and
> buy yourself a virgin margarita.

I don't drink, remember? Don't worry. Captain Giovanni and Adrian
have taken me out when I was the only diver on their boat, on more than
one occasion. They and the shop take care of their good customers well.
You won't hear them calling me a cheapskate even if they don't always
know where or how deep I dived during the first part of the first dive
on a regular boat trip when the group was puttering at your depths.

As I said before in this fourm, they are very good for beginners (like
yourself) as well as for experienced divers (such as Dan Bracuk and his
wife) with whom I dived for several days last year.

Glad to hear you enjoyed your trip. What happened to your trip report?
I'll be easier on you on your mistakes. :)

-- Bob.

"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Remind me what's the third ingredient of your trimix besides, rum and
> taquila.

More tequila. That's why they make booze in different colors: gold and
white tequila, light and dark rum, etc.

> > Oh, yeah, I guess so. I think I told them over the phone that I was
> > certified when I made the reservation. I must have an honest face.
>
> I didn't realize they have video phone in Coz now. Else they might
> have been watching an old TV of Nizon waving his fingers, rolling his
> eyes, muttering "I am not a crook" and they thought it was you on
> the phone.

They didn't have their video phone installed on the boat yet, but I wasn't
wearing my mask. So Adrian was able to put my honest face together with my
conniving telephone voice. Wasn't Nizon the Mexican undersecretary of
defense that ran away with millions, or is that the town next to Luzon in
the Philippines?

> I've seen less.

So have I. When the bar closes at the end of the night and I dig through
all the pockets to see if there's enough left for a cheap hooker.

> I thought for a minute you were saying your "cabellitos" was a
> tense conjugation of "caballito".

As far as I know, nouns have neither tenses nor conjugations. They do have
diminuitive forms in Mexico, but caballito is already the diminuitive form
of caballo. Nope, cabello means hair, so cabellitos would be little hairs
or "peachfuzz" which is an even sillier name for a dive shop than "Seahorse
of the Caribbean".

> Besides, what you alluded to is not "tenses". It's called the
> subjunctive MOOD in the silly English language, such as "if bull frogs
> had wings, they wouldn't bump their asses." But it's been so long since
> I learned that in a Chinese grade school that I may have been wrong,
> as in one previous occasion -- when I thought I was wrong.

Perhaps you're in a bad mood as well, but I was complaining about your
English tense in response to your nit about my Spanish spelling. Stop
trying to confuse the issue with Chinese grade school logic. "It helps" is
present tense while "you spelled" is past. Simple as that.

> > Say hi to Adrian for me and tip him some more if you don't think I
tipped
> > enough. On the other hand, if you think I overtipped, demand a refund
and
> > buy yourself a virgin margarita.
>
> I don't drink, remember? Don't worry. Captain Giovanni and Adrian
> have taken me out when I was the only diver on their boat, on more than
> one occasion. They and the shop take care of their good customers well.
> You won't hear them calling me a cheapskate even if they don't always
> know where or how deep I dived during the first part of the first dive
> on a regular boat trip when the group was puttering at your depths.

You do drink fluid, correct? Note the word virgin, that modifies the word
margarita sufficiently to remove all the offending alcohol so that there's
more left for fish like me that drink like fish. Thanks for recalling
Giovanni's name for me as I barely can remember DMs let alone drivers. He
seemed like a nice guy, though a bit too openly religious for my secular
diving tastes. If the shit hits the fan, I don't want a captain who throws
in hands in the air and leaves it up to god.

> As I said before in this fourm, they are very good for beginners (like
> yourself) as well as for experienced divers (such as Dan Bracuk and his
> wife) with whom I dived for several days last year.

But think, when I'm finally as experienced as you and Dan, you'll likely
both be dead.

> Glad to hear you enjoyed your trip. What happened to your trip report?
> I'll be easier on you on your mistakes. :)

It's still halfway drafted from the flight back. I haven't had time to pick
it up again and probably won't get to it before I leave town again. Can I
buy you a non-alcoholic drink in Vegas this Wednesday?

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message news:<4117afcf$0$108$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com>...
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8fb7380b.0408082157.205d198b@posting.google.c om...

> > I thought for a minute you were saying your "cabellitos" was a
> > tense conjugation of "caballito".
>
> As far as I know, nouns have neither tenses nor conjugations. They do have
> diminuitive forms in Mexico, but caballito is already the diminuitive form
> of caballo. Nope, cabello means hair, so cabellitos would be little hairs
> or "peachfuzz" which is an even sillier name for a dive shop than "Seahorse
> of the Caribbean".
>
> > Besides, what you alluded to is not "tenses". It's called the
> > subjunctive MOOD in the silly English language, such as "if bull frogs
> > had wings, they wouldn't bump their asses." But it's been so long since
> > I learned that in a Chinese grade school that I may have been wrong,
> > as in one previous occasion -- when I thought I was wrong.
>
> Perhaps you're in a bad mood as well, but I was complaining about your
> English tense in response to your nit about my Spanish spelling.


Ah, that's one thing I've learned about you, Greg -- you ALWAYS find
some excuse to obfuscate, even when you were dead wrong and corrected.
(Previous case: Standards for a "guilty" conviction in FOUR different
types of courts, from criminal to civil. Have you gone back to ask
your former law professors or ANY crininal court lawyer on YOUR silly
claims <all in the archives>)


Let's review the present nonsense of yours.

You were talking about a DIVE SHOP in Cozumel which you liked, and you
said it's name is "Cabellitos".

The spelling correction is not exactly a "nit" as you put it.

If someone went by what you said and looked for "cabellitos" from a
google web search, s/he would have found:

Corn Hairs or Cabellitos de Elote

Corn Hairs Favored by Aztec Indians
Diuretic and helps dissolve kidney and bladder stones.


Just what every Cozumel diver want to know, right?

So, I wrote in my follow-up:

RF> It helps if you spelled it correctly, if not fully:
RF>
RF> Caballito. Caballito del Caribe.
RF> See: http://www.seahorsecozumel.com/scuba.html

which is the "Seahorse" dive shop, not an Aztec corn hair recipe.


Then Greg launched into his pointless nit about my misuse of TENSES,
and he was wrong about THAT too, as I explained that a "subjunctive
MOOD is not a tense". But Greg went on digging his hole ever deeper,
beyond his maximum qualified depth of 30 feet.

Watch this Greg:

It "helps" (the present readers)

"if you spelled it correctly" (in your past post)


It is true I could have phrased it in the subjunctive mood, but only
Greg or a 3rd-grade English teacher would make a big NIT of it, as
no one could possibly have misunderstood what it meant.


Whereas ...

A dive shop by the name of "Cabellitos" -- is definitely POSSIBLE,
if not a definite maybe, but you won't find it in Cozumel. )

BTW, there is another shop in Cozumel that is often confused with the
Caballito (Seahorse) shop because the sound somewhat alike, and it's

Careyitos

I had this to say when Jack Sloan said it was the "best kept secret":

RF> As a matter of fact, neither Ricardo Madrigal nor careyitos
RF> advanced divers (nor the boat Careyitos) is a secret at all,
RF> to anyone who knows anything about Cozumel! Ricardo and Rodolfo
RF> were singled out for "high voltage diving" by dive mags like
RF> UNDERCURRENT and IN DEPTH, as far back as the late 1980s and
RF> the early 90s.


Greg, here's a trimix you can use:

http://www.travelnotes.cc/cozumel/li...careyitos.html
http://www.advanceddivers.com/
http://www.advanceddivers.com/testimonials.asp

-- Bob.