Cozumel

"Joe English" <jenglish@wisperhome.com> wrote in message
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> I don't care what the site says when I was there there were ships in port
> everyday, including Sunday. It may change during the times of the year.

Perhaps they were little boats dressed up as cruise ships for Halloween?

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Joe English" <jenglish@wisperhome.com> wrote in message
> news:f112$41818594$ce504822$1480@allthenewsgroups. com...
>
>
>>I don't care what the site says when I was there there were ships in port
>>everyday, including Sunday. It may change during the times of the year.
>
>
> Perhaps they were little boats dressed up as cruise ships for Halloween?
>
>
it wasn't halloween but was close to cinco de mayo

Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:

:The special discount signs with the little painted flags on Av Melgar
:shops mean squat. Cruiseros actually think they get a discount because
:of their cute little plastic bracelets, but prices are the same even
:without a bracelet. That's what I call stealing, making one think
:they're getting something when they're not.

You think it's stealing when the price of the item is clearly marked?

Dan Bracuk
Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken?
The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/


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Dillon Pyron wrote:

> Thus spake Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> :
>
>
>>Dan Bracuk wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
>>>:Yes, actually it does, but the only explanation necessary is you were
>>>:doing what you're expected to do while you're there, so it's not really
>>>:your fault. Unless you arrived via a cruise ship, in which case you're
>>>:only expected to shop at "their" shops, because, according to them,
>>>:"their" shops won't steal from you. But anybody who sees the prices
>>>:increase when a ship makes port knows that's bullshit.
>>>
>>>Last time I was there, (March 2003), there was at least one ship in
>>>port every day of the week. Needless to say, the prices remained the
>>>same, at least those that I saw.
>>>
>>>Dan Bracuk
>>
>>
>>Except Sunday, cruise ships aren't in port on Sunday.
>
>
> Nov 7 Coral Princess, Dec 5 Dawn Princess, Dec 19 Crystal Harmony, Dec
> 26 Grand Princess and Grandeur of the Seas.
>
>
>>The special discount signs with the little painted flags on Av Melgar
>>shops mean squat. Cruiseros actually think they get a discount because
>>of their cute little plastic bracelets, but prices are the same even
>>without a bracelet. That's what I call stealing, making one think
>>they're getting something when they're not.
>
>
> Wait until you see the stream of people headed for the piers. Wear
> your t-shirts from Hawai'i or Fiji or Bonaire. Speak a little
> Spanish. You won't get ripped off as bad.
>
>


For the record, I've been visiting Coz almost monthly for the last ten
years, although I've been a tad busy elsewhere for the last three
months, maybe four by now. When there last, the local town council was
getting hammered about the no-ship Sunday ruling, by RCI's hand puppet
no less, and it looks as if state government may have out-voted them.
Sad if true.


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In article <cltche$e21@library1.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
wrote:

€ Dan Bracuk wrote:
€
€ > Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
€ >
€ > :The special discount signs with the little painted flags on Av Melgar
€ > :shops mean squat. Cruiseros actually think they get a discount because
€ > :of their cute little plastic bracelets, but prices are the same even
€ > :without a bracelet. That's what I call stealing, making one think
€ > :they're getting something when they're not.
€ >
€ > You think it's stealing when the price of the item is clearly marked?
€ >
€
€
€ The point I'm trying to get across a lot of the shops put forth the
€ guise of a discount to the pod people. If there are actual prices
€ displayed (not always are), the pods are told that's their discounted
€ price, and it's higher for non-pods. When I asked why the marked price
€ was the discount, they said it was easier to mark up a few times than
€ mark down many times - because most of their customers were pods. This,
€ of course, is BS because they don't actually make that distinction, they
€ just say they do. The pod people will never know because they're gone
€ the next day. I'm not.
€
€ I don't know which particular trinket shop you were in, perhaps if you
€ could be more specific and I can check it out when I'm down there in the
€ next week or two.

Personally, I think ripping off cruise ship customers is not only
ethical, but comendable,

..

Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote:

>In article <cltche$e21@library1.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
>wrote:
>
>€ Dan Bracuk wrote:
>€
>€ > Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
>€ >
>€ > :The special discount signs with the little painted flags on Av Melgar
>€ > :shops mean squat. Cruiseros actually think they get a discount because
>€ > :of their cute little plastic bracelets, but prices are the same even
>€ > :without a bracelet. That's what I call stealing, making one think
>€ > :they're getting something when they're not.
>€ >
>€ > You think it's stealing when the price of the item is clearly marked?
>€ >

I think it is a way of concealing or obscuring the fact that outside
of the cruise ship recommended shops you can bargain. And I think
that the plastic bracelets tell them how much they have to kick back
to the ship

>€ The point I'm trying to get across a lot of the shops put forth the
>€ guise of a discount to the pod people. If there are actual prices
>€ displayed (not always are), the pods are told that's their discounted
>€ price, and it's higher for non-pods. When I asked why the marked price
>€ was the discount, they said it was easier to mark up a few times than
>€ mark down many times - because most of their customers were pods. This,
>€ of course, is BS because they don't actually make that distinction, they
>€ just say they do. The pod people will never know because they're gone
>€ the next day. I'm not.
>€
>€ I don't know which particular trinket shop you were in, perhaps if you
>€ could be more specific and I can check it out when I'm down there in the
>€ next week or two.
>
>Personally, I think ripping off cruise ship customers is not only
>ethical, but comendable,
>
At least it is understandable. If I were a passenger on a cruise ship
I would be extremely skeptical about the bracelets because almost
everything done via the ship is more expensive than what you can do on
your own.


grandma Rosalie

Alan Street wrote:

>
> Personally, I think ripping off cruise ship customers is not only
> ethical, but comendable,
>
> .

I second that.

"Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
news:cltche$e21@library1.airnews.net...
> Dan Bracuk wrote:
>
> > Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
> >
> > :The special discount signs with the little painted flags on Av Melgar
> > :shops mean squat. Cruiseros actually think they get a discount because
> > :of their cute little plastic bracelets, but prices are the same even
> > :without a bracelet. That's what I call stealing, making one think
> > :they're getting something when they're not.
> >
> > You think it's stealing when the price of the item is clearly marked?
> >
>
>
> The point I'm trying to get across a lot of the shops put forth the
> guise of a discount to the pod people. If there are actual prices
> displayed (not always are), the pods are told that's their discounted
> price, and it's higher for non-pods. When I asked why the marked price
> was the discount, they said it was easier to mark up a few times than
> mark down many times - because most of their customers were pods. This,
> of course, is BS because they don't actually make that distinction, they
> just say they do. The pod people will never know because they're gone
> the next day. I'm not.

I think, absent necessities like food and water, whatever a shop wants to
charge for an item, and however many times they want to change that price is
their business. It is the buyers business whether or not they want to pay
said price.

Can't help it....I'm a capitalist.....and a consumer.

Rosalie B. wrote:

>
> I think it is a way of concealing or obscuring the fact that outside
> of the cruise ship recommended shops you can bargain. And I think
> that the plastic bracelets tell them how much they have to kick back
> to the ship
>

Cruise directors routinely recommend to disembarking passengers to wear
their bracelets so that they'll get cruise line discounts. A dubious
recommedation at best, a coercive lie at worst. And yes, the sales
staff (mostly foreign) are aware of this distinction. OTOH, having an
ID bracelet also tells the taxi driver which cuise dock their inebriated
client belongs to when they've forgotten which port their in after a
raucous evening at CnC's or Fat Tuesday's. One of those double-edged
sword things for those that haven't yet learned to control themselves.

Also, these shops are involved in a variety of kick-back schemes with
the cruise lines, especially those shops that accepted RCI's financial
help for relocating to Puta Langosta Mall. The consequences of this are
prevalent in the shop's reluctance to enter into any sort of bartering
with a customer, which as you said, is available a mere two blocks away
on an easterly course.

It may interest some to know that the taxi union has also been under
significant pressure to be careful in their gouging techniques.
Strangely, some cruseros actually find a clue somewhere, and won't waste
a second complaining about it when they return to their "hotel". OTOH,
trying to chisel a taxi driver can get you stranded really quick after
they broadcast your situation on their CB radios.


[....]


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jer email reply - I am not a 'ten'

Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:The point I'm trying to get across a lot of the shops put forth the
:guise of a discount to the pod people. If there are actual prices
:displayed (not always are), the pods are told that's their discounted
rice, and it's higher for non-pods. When I asked why the marked price
:was the discount, they said it was easier to mark up a few times than
:mark down many times - because most of their customers were pods. This,
:of course, is BS because they don't actually make that distinction, they
:just say they do. The pod people will never know because they're gone
:the next day. I'm not.
:
:I don't know which particular trinket shop you were in, perhaps if you
:could be more specific and I can check it out when I'm down there in the
:next week or two.

We see things differently. I look at the item and price and decide if
it is worth buying. Everything else is a detail.

Dan Bracuk
Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken?
The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/


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