Another question about dive operators in Cozumel!

Joe English wrote:
> Greg Mossman wrote:
>
> > "keith n via ScubaMonster.com" <forum@ScubaMonster.com> wrote in message
> > news:52A2674A78F56@ScubaMonster.com...
> >
> >>Dive Paradise (www.diveparadise.com) is amongst the largest,

DP is not only among the largest, it IS the largest dive op, in CZM.
Been that way for years.

Greg > And McDonalds is the largest, and therefore most able to
customize
Greg > your burger. After all, special orders don't upset them.
>
Jpe> Wrong that Burger King
Joe> 'Hold the pickle, hold the lettuce, special orders don't upset us

And Cozumel ain't Neuvo York or Neuvo Joisey.

They are both "hole in the wall" in Coz.
Senor Frog and you-know-who rake in more dough <with no hamburger
attached> than Mac and B. King put together, on any day, in Coz.

Dive Paradise has a fleet of 14 boats, the last I heard it from
Apple a year or two ago.

They have 1 tank, 2=tank, and 3-tank packages everyday. Special
EDP boats to dive exotic/advanced sites, and large boats to
accommodate groups.

The 3-tank package cost around $60 USD, less than what many
shops charge for a 2-tank dive.

Jose Chalet (with whom I've made hundreds of dives when he was
the DM for Discover, is Apple's "right hand man" (subs for
Apple when she's out-of-town attending scuba shows; and is
both manager AND DM for Dive Paradise). Jose was also Apple's
student in scuba. There are many Joses in Cox. This
is the short one (shorter than most Mexicans) -- less than
5' tall I would say, but hell of a diver and DM.

There's a "hole in the wall" branch shop of DP on Calle 3 Sur
(same street as the Bahia hotel), facing the Pro Dive Pier.
The hole is managed by a one-man-band Mexican, Rafael, who
also stands on street corner with picture book selling
tour packages. Rafael can cut "deals" (in discounted
price) you probably can't get at the main shop.

The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of
having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the
street from my hotel to the former Pro Dive pier or the
present Aldora Pier to board the dive boat.

-- Bob.

"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:

>The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of
>having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the
>street from my hotel to the former Pro Dive pier or the
>present Aldora Pier to board the dive boat.

And where is that Bob? The Barracuda pier?

Ron Lee

Ron Lee wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of
> >having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the
> >street from my hotel to the former Pro Dive pier or the
> >present Aldora Pier to board the dive boat.
>
> And where is that Bob? The Barracuda pier?
>
> Ron Lee

LOL! The Aldora IDIOT resurrected from the dead!

Didn't you know that the role of playing a Spelling Cop
in newsgroups has been out of style a LONG LONG time ago?

Those sci.geo.satellite-nav, linux.debian.changes.devel,
rec.aviation.piloting and other non-scuba newsgrouops
must've been damned boring isn't it, for you to have been
in only 9 thread since July 1?

Welcome back anyway. Just try not to repeat your act of
being an IDIOT. LOL.

-- Bob.

Here we have the case where I ask a serious question. Where does DP
pick up if not at the Aldora Pier or Pro Dive near Bob's Hotel. I
know DP has a shop at Barracuda so it seems that they likely pick up
there.

Wouldn't it have been simpler for Bob to provide a simple answer
instead of his normal childish name-calling?

Must be genetic Bob.

I am honored that you just had to find put which newsgroups I have
been on lately. Lot of time on your hands Bob?

PS, "linux.debian.changes.devel" in not a newsgroup that I am
subcribed to so your research was flawed.

Ron Lee



"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Ron Lee wrote:
>> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of
>> >having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the
>> >street from my hotel to the former Pro Dive pier or the
>> >present Aldora Pier to board the dive boat.
>>
>> And where is that Bob? The Barracuda pier?
>>
>> Ron Lee
>
>LOL! The Aldora IDIOT resurrected from the dead!
>
>Didn't you know that the role of playing a Spelling Cop
>in newsgroups has been out of style a LONG LONG time ago?
>
>Those sci.geo.satellite-nav, linux.debian.changes.devel,
>rec.aviation.piloting and other non-scuba newsgrouops
>must've been damned boring isn't it, for you to have been
>in only 9 thread since July 1?
>
>Welcome back anyway. Just try not to repeat your act of
>being an IDIOT. LOL.
>
>-- Bob.
>

Ron Lee wrote:
> Here we have the case where I ask a serious question. Where does DP
> pick up if not at the Aldora Pier or Pro Dive near Bob's Hotel. I
> know DP has a shop at Barracuda so it seems that they likely pick up
> there.

What question? You were picking on a typo.

For someone who had dived in Cozumel all these years, and you didn't
know Dive Paradise does NOT pick passengers up at the Pro Dive Pier
or the Aldora Pier?

You're even more clueless than I had thought!

>
> Wouldn't it have been simpler for Bob to provide a simple answer
> instead of his normal childish name-calling?

See the above. For someone who had been flaming me since 1995 and
had been picking on my typos, it would not have occurred to me, in
a MILLION years, that you didn't know where DP boats pick up its
divers!

> Must be genetic Bob.

Yup. Good genes are what distinguished me from people like you.

>
> I am honored that you just had to find put which newsgroups I have
> been on lately. Lot of time on your hands Bob?

Hey, it only took about 13 sec to type "Ron Lee" as author and
and change 1 Jan 1981 to 1 July 2005 for the google search to
see where you had disappeared. I do that on nearly ALL posters.

>
> PS, "linux.debian.changes.devel" in not a newsgroup that I am
> subcribed to so your research was flawed.
>
> Ron Lee
>
I can't help it if the OTHER Ron Lee had gotten your bum wrap all
these years.

See what I told you about what you used to do by calling me Bob Ling
(rather than Reef Fish) and make SUBJECTS every time with "Bob Ling"
in your derogatory title?

I had TOLD YOU that the Google search of "Bob Ling" would have found
almost 1,000,000 hits in the Web search (687,000 just now) and at
most 20 of those were THIS Bob Ling.

Was THIS the Bob Ling you had such a grudge against? (Below)

http://tinyurl.com/bk24d

LOL! Math Science and Engineering, no less!

Ooops. I did find ONE handsome fellow, among the first few pages
of those 687,000 links:

http://www.stat.yale.edu/history/Photos.html

See how stooopid your tactic was? Hypocrite Grudge Holding
Hugh Huntzinger tried your tactic too. All he managed was to
establish a BAD reputation as you did -- now known not only in
scuba groups, but also in several non-scuba groups, such as
sci.stat.math -- in which the WORST qualified of the posters,
whom I had profiled, and documented his "Errors", "Quackery",
and "Malpractice". His name is Richard Ulrich. He was the
ONLY one there who insisted in calling me "Bob Ling" when I have
NEVER posted by that name.

Finally, for YOUR education:

If you use google's advanced search under newsgroups, and
specify NOTHING ELSE but "Reef Fish" as the AUTHOR, you'll find
that I am the only Reef Fish author in all USENET, among the
100,000,000+ posts!

Back to SCUBA. Does that mean you are going to start diving
with Dive Paradise now?

I promise I won't call you the "Dive Paradise IDIOT" unless and
until you have shown enough documentable qualifications to
EARN it.

-- Bob.

> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >Welcome back anyway. Just try not to repeat your act of
> >being an IDIOT. LOL.
> >
> >-- Bob.
> >

> The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of
> having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the
> street from my hotel to the former Pro Dive pier or the
> present Aldora Pier to board the dive boat.
>
> -- Bob.
>

They pick up at many hotel docks such as Las Brisas (or whatever it is
called this year).

Dr Yak wrote:
> > The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of
> > having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the
> > street from my hotel to the former Pro Dive pier or the
> > present Aldora Pier to board the dive boat.
> >
> > -- Bob.
> >
>
> They pick up at many hotel docks such as Las Brisas (or whatever it is
> called this year).

That is true. They pick up at SOME hotels SOUTH of the Barracuda
Hotel pier.

The hotel in which *I* stay (in fact the same ROOM every time)
since 1995 is the Large Penthouse Suite overlooking both the
Pro Dive Pier and the Aldora Pier.

I wouldn't trade the room if someone offered me to stay in any
other room in ANY hotel in Cozumel without paying extra!


That's why I could see ALL of the dive shops that pick up there,
WHEN they come, how many boats they use, etc., etc.

In many of the past flamewars I had with Aldora and other IDIOTS
(such as CPR86 <G>) were based on the fact they were all
speculating what went on while I was WATCHING what went on.

Some years ago, when I had the spare time to watch, I actually
recorded all the different color TANKS used by different dive
shops.

That's how DMs can tell which group and how many groups are
UW at the same time at the same site! By looking at the
color of the marking on TANKS when they couldn't tell one
diver from another when the groups cross, sometimes 2 and 3
at a time.

-- Bob.

Reef Fish wrote:

> That's why I could see ALL of the dive shops that pick up there,
> WHEN they come, how many boats they use, etc., etc.
>
> In many of the past flamewars I had with Aldora and other IDIOTS
> (such as CPR86 <G>) were based on the fact they were all
> speculating what went on while I was WATCHING what went on.
>
> Some years ago, when I had the spare time to watch, I actually
> recorded all the different color TANKS used by different dive
> shops.

It was only SEVEN years ago. The post below featured BOTH
CPR86 posing himself as an expert about Aldora a month after his
first trip; and also my mention of color or tanks!

http://tinyurl.com/c36uv

RF> That's how I know Aldora tanks are unloaded and loaded there --
RF> easy to see -- steel tanks with light blue ring on top.
RF> I also know the COLOR markings of the tanks of most of the
RF> dive shops that start from the Pro Dive Pier! Scuba Du:
RF> Yellow top; Blue Bubbles: wine-red top; Black Shark; purple
RF> top; Chinos: white on dark blue top; Cozumel Equalizer:
RF> dark green top; etc., etc.

-- Bob.

Based on reading prior postings, a good dive operation in Cozumel is
based on what you expect from a dive operations. So here is the
question with the conditions to follow.

Please recommend a good diver operation for an experienced 45 year old
solo diver with over 350 dives in 13 years with the following
conditions

Early departure 7am sounds good!

I get up early and go to bed early. I do not change the pattern on
vacation. It is dark after 7 pm in the tropics, so you might as well
go to bed.... There is nothing to look at! I like to get up early
enjoy the morning sun. Also, the seas tend to be calmer in the
morning.

Minimum of three dives per day.

More would be better! I go on dive vacations to dive. My wife does
not dive and does not come with me on dive vacations. I do not need to
sit on a beach and drink or read a book. (I can do both of those
things at home!). This is my only dive trip this year since all my
other trips will be with my wife who does not dive.


Someplace safe for my Camera.

I have dove in little tiny boats without any room and I have broken
cameras. I would prefer boats that have a nice safe spot set aside for
cameras.

Focus on more experience divers

I am a dive master and I enjoy helping new divers. However when I dive
for recreation, I wish to enjoy the dive with divers of the same skill
level.

After looking through past post dive Cozumel yellowrose seems the best
fit but living underwater and blue XT Sea also look good. Papa Hog's
looks like another possiblity.

Suggestions?

contrms@mtco.com wrote:
> Based on reading prior postings, a good dive operation in Cozumel is
> based on what you expect from a dive operations. So here is the
> question with the conditions to follow.
>
> Please recommend a good diver operation for an experienced 45 year old
> solo diver with over 350 dives in 13 years with the following
> conditions
>
> Early departure 7am sounds good!

Aldora is usually the first boats out -- used to be 7 am, but more
like 7:30 the last time I looked. Deep Blue is usually the next,
before 8 am.
>
> I get up early and go to bed early. I do not change the pattern on
> vacation. It is dark after 7 pm in the tropics, so you might as well
> go to bed.... There is nothing to look at! I like to get up early
> enjoy the morning sun.

What do you do the REST of the day? I am usually up by 6 am.
There is NOTHING to do in Coz for me, since I exhausted all the things
to see/do around 1992.

> Also, the seas tend to be calmer in the morning.

Sez who?
>
> Minimum of three dives per day.

Every shop there can do that.
>
> More would be better! I go on dive vacations to dive. My wife does
> not dive and does not come with me on dive vacations. I do not need to
> sit on a beach and drink or read a book. (I can do both of those
> things at home!). This is my only dive trip this year since all my
> other trips will be with my wife who does not dive.

How many dives CAN you do in a day? 10?
>
> Someplace safe for my Camera.
>
> I have dove in little tiny boats without any room and I have broken
> cameras. I would prefer boats that have a nice safe spot set aside for
> cameras.
>
> Focus on more experience divers
>
> I am a dive master and I enjoy helping new divers. However when I dive
> for recreation, I wish to enjoy the dive with divers of the same skill
> level.

You have just contradicted yourself. You said you were a solo diver.

> After looking through past post dive Cozumel yellowrose seems the best
> fit but living underwater and blue XT Sea also look good. Papa Hog's
> looks like another possiblity.
>
> Suggestions?

Given your picky preferences and conditions, your best bet is to hire
one of the one-man-band operators to custom fit as many dives as you
wish, at any time of the day, and anywhere, north, south, east, or
west.

Lots of names come to mind. But Charro, Pasqual, and Paul Padilla
will make you look and feel like a newbie in every respect; but
they can cater to anything anybody wants. Carl Heinzl used to
brag about doing a 10-tank dive with Charro at 2 am.

-- Bob.