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Old 11-13-2005, 04:21 PM
Ron Lee
 
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Default Re: I'll be in Cozumel Nov 15 !!!

>I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to
>assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
>
>-- Bob.
>

Future travel and diving will be good.

Ron Lee
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Old 11-13-2005, 04:21 PM
Ron Lee
 
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Default Re: I'll be in Cozumel Nov 15 !!!

>I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to
>assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
>
>-- Bob.
>

Future travel and diving will be good.

Ron Lee
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Old 11-13-2005, 04:41 PM
Jer
 
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Reef Fish wrote:
> After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to
> pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who
> owns practically all the other cruise lines now) met with reps in
> Cozumel
> and announced that the port will be open to cruise ships on Nov 14.
>
> Everyone was skeptical of that announced date, but it appears true.
> The cruiseship piers will not be sufficiently well repaired for cruise
> ships to dock, but apparently Cozumel is ready to accept cruise ship
> passengers who come ashore on tenders.
>
> I am on a back-to-back cruise on the same ship, the Star Princess,
> which are supposed to have the same itinerary. But I learned from
> the cruise ship patter this morning that TWO of the ports of call will
> be different.
>
> We'll be stopping at Cozumel and Montego Bay, instread of last
> week's Majahual (Costa Maya) and Ocho Rio.
>
> I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to
> assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
>
> -- Bob.
>


Just thinking about the anchor damage...

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jer
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Old 11-13-2005, 04:41 PM
Jer
 
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Default Re: I'll be in Cozumel Nov 15 !!!

Reef Fish wrote:
> After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to
> pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who
> owns practically all the other cruise lines now) met with reps in
> Cozumel
> and announced that the port will be open to cruise ships on Nov 14.
>
> Everyone was skeptical of that announced date, but it appears true.
> The cruiseship piers will not be sufficiently well repaired for cruise
> ships to dock, but apparently Cozumel is ready to accept cruise ship
> passengers who come ashore on tenders.
>
> I am on a back-to-back cruise on the same ship, the Star Princess,
> which are supposed to have the same itinerary. But I learned from
> the cruise ship patter this morning that TWO of the ports of call will
> be different.
>
> We'll be stopping at Cozumel and Montego Bay, instread of last
> week's Majahual (Costa Maya) and Ocho Rio.
>
> I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to
> assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
>
> -- Bob.
>


Just thinking about the anchor damage...

--
jer
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:14 PM
Reef Fish
 
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Jer wrote:
> Reef Fish wrote:
> > After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to
> > pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who
> > owns practically all the other cruise lines now) met with reps in
> > Cozumel
> > and announced that the port will be open to cruise ships on Nov 14.
> >
> > Everyone was skeptical of that announced date, but it appears true.
> > The cruiseship piers will not be sufficiently well repaired for cruise
> > ships to dock, but apparently Cozumel is ready to accept cruise ship
> > passengers who come ashore on tenders.
> >
> > I am on a back-to-back cruise on the same ship, the Star Princess,
> > which are supposed to have the same itinerary. But I learned from
> > the cruise ship patter this morning that TWO of the ports of call will
> > be different.
> >
> > We'll be stopping at Cozumel and Montego Bay, instread of last
> > week's Majahual (Costa Maya) and Ocho Rio.
> >
> > I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to
> > assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
> >
> > -- Bob.
> >

>
> Just thinking about the anchor damage...
>
> --
> jer


If the cruise ships are anchored, they will most likely do so in the
part of the channel nobody dives, nor will they affect any of the
diving in Cozumel.

-- Bob.

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Old 11-13-2005, 11:14 PM
Reef Fish
 
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Jer wrote:
> Reef Fish wrote:
> > After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to
> > pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who
> > owns practically all the other cruise lines now) met with reps in
> > Cozumel
> > and announced that the port will be open to cruise ships on Nov 14.
> >
> > Everyone was skeptical of that announced date, but it appears true.
> > The cruiseship piers will not be sufficiently well repaired for cruise
> > ships to dock, but apparently Cozumel is ready to accept cruise ship
> > passengers who come ashore on tenders.
> >
> > I am on a back-to-back cruise on the same ship, the Star Princess,
> > which are supposed to have the same itinerary. But I learned from
> > the cruise ship patter this morning that TWO of the ports of call will
> > be different.
> >
> > We'll be stopping at Cozumel and Montego Bay, instread of last
> > week's Majahual (Costa Maya) and Ocho Rio.
> >
> > I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to
> > assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
> >
> > -- Bob.
> >

>
> Just thinking about the anchor damage...
>
> --
> jer


If the cruise ships are anchored, they will most likely do so in the
part of the channel nobody dives, nor will they affect any of the
diving in Cozumel.

-- Bob.

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Old 11-15-2005, 12:14 AM
Jer
 
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Reef Fish wrote:
> Jer wrote:
>
>>Reef Fish wrote:
>>
>>>After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to
>>>pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who
>>>owns practically all the other cruise lines now) met with reps in
>>>Cozumel
>>>and announced that the port will be open to cruise ships on Nov 14.
>>>
>>>Everyone was skeptical of that announced date, but it appears true.
>>>The cruiseship piers will not be sufficiently well repaired for cruise
>>>ships to dock, but apparently Cozumel is ready to accept cruise ship
>>>passengers who come ashore on tenders.
>>>
>>>I am on a back-to-back cruise on the same ship, the Star Princess,
>>>which are supposed to have the same itinerary. But I learned from
>>>the cruise ship patter this morning that TWO of the ports of call will
>>>be different.
>>>
>>>We'll be stopping at Cozumel and Montego Bay, instread of last
>>>week's Majahual (Costa Maya) and Ocho Rio.
>>>
>>>I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to
>>>assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
>>>
>>>-- Bob.
>>>

>>
>>Just thinking about the anchor damage...
>>
>>--
>>jer

>
>
> If the cruise ships are anchored, they will most likely do so in the
> part of the channel nobody dives, nor will they affect any of the
> diving in Cozumel.
>
> -- Bob.
>



I'm thinking of Christmas '99 when the cruise dock (at that time) was
full, and four more ships were using tenders at anchor - one on top of
Paradise Reef. Though it's healed somewhat, I still see the big hole it
left behind.

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jer
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:14 AM
Jer
 
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Default Re: I'll be in Cozumel Nov 15 !!!

Reef Fish wrote:
> Jer wrote:
>
>>Reef Fish wrote:
>>
>>>After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to
>>>pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who
>>>owns practically all the other cruise lines now) met with reps in
>>>Cozumel
>>>and announced that the port will be open to cruise ships on Nov 14.
>>>
>>>Everyone was skeptical of that announced date, but it appears true.
>>>The cruiseship piers will not be sufficiently well repaired for cruise
>>>ships to dock, but apparently Cozumel is ready to accept cruise ship
>>>passengers who come ashore on tenders.
>>>
>>>I am on a back-to-back cruise on the same ship, the Star Princess,
>>>which are supposed to have the same itinerary. But I learned from
>>>the cruise ship patter this morning that TWO of the ports of call will
>>>be different.
>>>
>>>We'll be stopping at Cozumel and Montego Bay, instread of last
>>>week's Majahual (Costa Maya) and Ocho Rio.
>>>
>>>I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to
>>>assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
>>>
>>>-- Bob.
>>>

>>
>>Just thinking about the anchor damage...
>>
>>--
>>jer

>
>
> If the cruise ships are anchored, they will most likely do so in the
> part of the channel nobody dives, nor will they affect any of the
> diving in Cozumel.
>
> -- Bob.
>



I'm thinking of Christmas '99 when the cruise dock (at that time) was
full, and four more ships were using tenders at anchor - one on top of
Paradise Reef. Though it's healed somewhat, I still see the big hole it
left behind.

--
jer
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:35 AM
Reef Fish
 
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Default Re: I'll be in Cozumel Nov 15 !!!


Jer wrote:
> Reef Fish wrote:
> > Jer wrote:
> >
> >>Reef Fish wrote:
> >>
> >>>After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to
> >>>pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who
> >>>owns practically all the other cruise lines now) met with reps in
> >>>Cozumel
> >>>and announced that the port will be open to cruise ships on Nov 14.
> >>>
> >>>Everyone was skeptical of that announced date, but it appears true.
> >>>The cruiseship piers will not be sufficiently well repaired for cruise
> >>>ships to dock, but apparently Cozumel is ready to accept cruise ship
> >>>passengers who come ashore on tenders.
> >>>
> >>>I am on a back-to-back cruise on the same ship, the Star Princess,
> >>>which are supposed to have the same itinerary. But I learned from
> >>>the cruise ship patter this morning that TWO of the ports of call will
> >>>be different.
> >>>
> >>>We'll be stopping at Cozumel and Montego Bay, instread of last
> >>>week's Majahual (Costa Maya) and Ocho Rio.
> >>>
> >>>I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to
> >>>assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
> >>>
> >>>-- Bob.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Just thinking about the anchor damage...
> >>
> >>--
> >>jer

> >
> >
> > If the cruise ships are anchored, they will most likely do so in the
> > part of the channel nobody dives, nor will they affect any of the
> > diving in Cozumel.
> >
> > -- Bob.
> >

>
>
> I'm thinking of Christmas '99 when the cruise dock (at that time) was
> full, and four more ships were using tenders at anchor - one on top of
> Paradise Reef. Though it's healed somewhat, I still see the big hole it
> left behind.
>
> --
> jer


That may well be true, because Puerta Maya, which is south of the
International Pier just south of the La Ceiba hotel, is on the fringe
of
the Paradise Reef.

Paradise Reef was never much of a dive site and wasn't dived much
even before the new cruise ship piers were built, except for some shore
diving and night dives. Haven't dived it for years.

None of the reefs SOUTH of the Paradise Reef will be affected by the
few cruise ships anchoring or mooring there this week.

The MAXIMUM number of cruise ships in Cozumel this week will be
FOUR -- tomorrow, when our ship will be there.

That's is no more than the MAX number of cruise ships in Cozumel
NOT docked on the piers (when they were not damaged) because
I've seen as many as TEN (10) cruiseships in Cozumel on some days.

For the last three days of the week, I recall the Cos Festival listed
only ONE Royal Caribbean ship on each of those days.

The diving industry is likely to have suffered a tremendous blow, not
by the physical damage of Wilma nor the cruise ship traffic, but by the
ECONOMIC loss, for lack of divers, in the delicate support base for
the 200 dive shops in Cozumel! Many of those are undoubtedly
wiped out by the absence of income from divers!

It's a sad situation in Cozumel, which in my opinion is LEAST affected
by the presence or absence of cruise ships!

-- Bob.

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Old 11-15-2005, 12:35 AM
Reef Fish
 
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Jer wrote:
> Reef Fish wrote:
> > Jer wrote:
> >
> >>Reef Fish wrote:
> >>
> >>>After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to
> >>>pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who
> >>>owns practically all the other cruise lines now) met with reps in
> >>>Cozumel
> >>>and announced that the port will be open to cruise ships on Nov 14.
> >>>
> >>>Everyone was skeptical of that announced date, but it appears true.
> >>>The cruiseship piers will not be sufficiently well repaired for cruise
> >>>ships to dock, but apparently Cozumel is ready to accept cruise ship
> >>>passengers who come ashore on tenders.
> >>>
> >>>I am on a back-to-back cruise on the same ship, the Star Princess,
> >>>which are supposed to have the same itinerary. But I learned from
> >>>the cruise ship patter this morning that TWO of the ports of call will
> >>>be different.
> >>>
> >>>We'll be stopping at Cozumel and Montego Bay, instread of last
> >>>week's Majahual (Costa Maya) and Ocho Rio.
> >>>
> >>>I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to
> >>>assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
> >>>
> >>>-- Bob.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Just thinking about the anchor damage...
> >>
> >>--
> >>jer

> >
> >
> > If the cruise ships are anchored, they will most likely do so in the
> > part of the channel nobody dives, nor will they affect any of the
> > diving in Cozumel.
> >
> > -- Bob.
> >

>
>
> I'm thinking of Christmas '99 when the cruise dock (at that time) was
> full, and four more ships were using tenders at anchor - one on top of
> Paradise Reef. Though it's healed somewhat, I still see the big hole it
> left behind.
>
> --
> jer


That may well be true, because Puerta Maya, which is south of the
International Pier just south of the La Ceiba hotel, is on the fringe
of
the Paradise Reef.

Paradise Reef was never much of a dive site and wasn't dived much
even before the new cruise ship piers were built, except for some shore
diving and night dives. Haven't dived it for years.

None of the reefs SOUTH of the Paradise Reef will be affected by the
few cruise ships anchoring or mooring there this week.

The MAXIMUM number of cruise ships in Cozumel this week will be
FOUR -- tomorrow, when our ship will be there.

That's is no more than the MAX number of cruise ships in Cozumel
NOT docked on the piers (when they were not damaged) because
I've seen as many as TEN (10) cruiseships in Cozumel on some days.

For the last three days of the week, I recall the Cos Festival listed
only ONE Royal Caribbean ship on each of those days.

The diving industry is likely to have suffered a tremendous blow, not
by the physical damage of Wilma nor the cruise ship traffic, but by the
ECONOMIC loss, for lack of divers, in the delicate support base for
the 200 dive shops in Cozumel! Many of those are undoubtedly
wiped out by the absence of income from divers!

It's a sad situation in Cozumel, which in my opinion is LEAST affected
by the presence or absence of cruise ships!

-- Bob.

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