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Old 03-26-2007, 11:54 PM
Lee Bell
 
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"scubacenote" <scubacenote@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Imagine that you are half way down of "punta sur" devil's, with normal
> scuba unit (no 3 meter octopus hose, no doubles with maniful), two
> divers in front, two divers behind, and you have a reg problem that
> prevents you from breathing (eg. HP hose burst!) !? Scary thought at
> that depth, Am I wrong?


Scary for sure. Deadly, not necessarily. My buddy has gas.

Lee


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Old 03-26-2007, 11:54 PM
Reef Fish
 
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Dillon Pyron wrote:
> Thus spake "scubacenote" <scubacenote@hotmail.com> :
>
> >Imagine that you are half way down of "punta sur" devil's, with normal
> >scuba unit (no 3 meter octopus hose, no doubles with maniful), two
> >divers in front, two divers behind, and you have a reg problem that
> >prevents you from breathing (eg. HP hose burst!) !? Scary thought at
> >that depth, Am I wrong?

>
> HP hose? No problem. Just call the dive and ascend normally. LP
> hose? Turn around and grab the octo from one of the guys behind you.


And scubacenote claims to be an INSTRUCTOR of several
different agencies? WOW!

When I was diving on the liveaboard in Tobago, in completely
unfamiliar surrounding, and the HP broke blowing my pressure gauge
out of my console completely, on decend. Did I call the dive and
ascend normally? Well yes, but only after I had taken my time to
retrieve the blown out gauge at the bottom of the ocean (only about
50 feet) and THEN took my time to ascend back to the boat.

LP? I would drain a full tank much faster. But anyone who can't
handle ANY OOA situation (equipment failure -- anyone should be
SHOT for actually running out of air, for whatever reason other
than equipment failure) at whatever depth he is diving SHOULD NOT
be diving at that depth. Most "Devil's Throat" dives go through
the cheese holes and come out of some FAKE THROAT, above
115 ffw. Of the over 100 Devil's throat dives I have done -- with
a group, only about 5 of the went to the Real Throat -- most of
the divers were just as clueless as scubacenote about Open
Water diving in Cozumel, or any of the dive sites.

It's a much better dive to see the throat is to see the fabulous
Punta Sur WALL below the exit of the REAL Throat, and then
ascend to its lowest point of exit around 135 fsw. That
requires SOLO diving while the group is led around the FAKE
throat. Been there. Done that. Many times.
>
> Anybody who remembers their training and doesn't panic can get out of
> almost any problem. Been there, done that, didn't get a t-shirt.


The training to ANTICIPATE (the 7 As in rescue) in Open Water
training is even more important for diving in any overhead
environment. I hate to think that scubacenote panic when his
HP broke near the entrance of a cenote and cave and DIE because
of his panic rather than just take the time to take a normal exit.

-- Reef Fish Bob.

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Old 03-26-2007, 11:54 PM
scubacenote
 
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I just do not go into overhead with out my full cave equipment so I
have redundancy and will always be safe and calm! (do it dayly) Call me
a pussy, I consider myself very conservative, I do not have to play
tarzan any more: Been ther done that! I am also getting old, that is
all... You guys are talking about hoses, but forgot about the narrow
and the people bloking, Of course it is ok for me to do any kind of
emergency ascent out of any trouble (except being trapped between
obstacles preventing me from doing it), seems to me that I am really
going to listen to Bob, and go to a tech forum: Bye for ever. I have
never ever had an incidet and I thing that is a lot to say when you've
been taking people diving every day for ten years.
scubacenote

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Old 03-26-2007, 11:54 PM
\Magilla\
 
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"Reef Fish" wrote

> And scubacenote claims to be an INSTRUCTOR of several
> different agencies? WOW!


Why not? We believe you have a doctorate in math, despite quite
atrocious spelling and juvenile behavior.

Curtis




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