any advice for cozumel, sites/operators/web sites

Greg Mossman wrote:
>
> What's wrong with making a comparison to show two extremes? It's done all
> the time.

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Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <large_nassua_grouper@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1164599776.064860.299640@45g2000cws.googlegro ups.com...
>
> >> > > $3 a tank? That sounds cheap. Even on liveaboards or dive resorts
> >> > > with
> >> > > "unlimited" packages for $100, you'd still have to do over 30 dives
> >> > > to get
> >> > > the price down that low.
> >>
> >> Greg was right about his arithmetic. But $3 a tank IS
> >> cheap, but still enough for a high volume shop in Coz to
> >> make a buck on it.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'll be diving with Ed Robinson's again in December. They want $15 a
> >> > > tank.
>
> > Correction. What I said about "Jer" is correct, but the quote was
> > by Greg Mossman. So, Greg was pretty clueless about Nitrox
> > diving in Cozumel, to compare it with Hawaiian cost. Greg's
> > been diving much more elsewhere than in Coz. Still holds the
> > "Anti-Aldora Idiot" title. (Bestowed by me, in fairness to
> > Aldora Idiot given to Ron Lee and a couple others. Greg's dissing
> > of Aldora was completely unfair on his first dive ever in Cozumel.
>
> >> On second thought, there isn't even a shop in Cozumel named
> >> "Ed Robinson"! Jer was probably referring to "Ed Robinson"
> >> of Maui, and didn't realize that comparing the dive cost in
> >> Hawaii and that of Cozumel is made only by someone as
> >> CLUELESS as he is.
> >
> > That comment would have to apply to Greg.
>
> What's wrong with making a comparison to show two extremes? It's done all
> the time.

Nothing, if it was clear what was intended. Thinking it was coming
from Jer, I really thought he was referring to some Ed Robinson in
Cozumel.

Ed Robinson in Maui is probably not even the extreme, by the standards
of many locations in which I have dived. E.g., $80 - $100 for a ONE
TANK dive in Bora Bora is not uncommon, and I haven't even checked
to see if Nitrox is available there. Another 20 or 30 bucks for nitrox
wouldn't be surprising, but those are hardly appropriate to compare to
anything in Cozumel. I had given going market price, the dive-shop
cost, and what are good deals or bad deals in Cozumel EAN dives --
and that's what divers in COZUMEL would find must useful -- I could
have gotten a tank of nitrox to dive at Fairbanks (or North Pole,
Alaska)
when it was minus 50 degrees, and I suspect the cost of the one-tank
of EAN32 could be prohibitive.

-- Reef Fish Bob.

"Reef Fish" <large_nassua_grouper@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Ed Robinson in Maui is probably not even the extreme, by the standards
> of many locations in which I have dived. E.g., $80 - $100 for a ONE
> TANK dive in Bora Bora is not uncommon, and I haven't even checked
> to see if Nitrox is available there. Another 20 or 30 bucks for nitrox
> wouldn't be surprising, but those are hardly appropriate to compare to
> anything in Cozumel.

French Polynesia may be even more expensive than Hawaii, especially due to
the annoying European habit of doing 1-tank dive trips. Ed Robinson's
doesn't even offer a 1-tank trip. Their basic 2-tank trip is $120. With
nitrox, that comes to $150.

According to www.topdive.com, "NITROX dives are available Moorea, Bora Bora
and Rangiroa at no extra cost". Two Bora Bora dives at the 1-tank rate
would come to (2 x 63 Euros)= 126 Euros. At the current exchange rate, 126
Euros = $166.19. So two nitrox dives indeed cost more in Bora Bora, but
this is primarily due to the European silliness of doing one dive at a time.
Also, the exchange rates obviously fluctuate. A month ago, 126 Euros =
$157.50. Close.

Since it's the Chinese that are causing the dollar to drop against the Euro,
I blame you for skewing my nitrox comparison, and will be cursing you when I
travel to Amsterdam in December unless you buy me another free drink or the
exchange rate improves. What are your holiday plans?

Aqua World was the on site OP at the hotel we stayed at back then.
Something Sol I think- I believe it has since changed names. It was
acroos the street from the water and had a tunnel under the road to
the beach.

On 26 Nov 2006 19:39:45 -0800, "Reef Fish"
<large_nassua_grouper@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Dan Bracuk wrote:
>> Bill <nospamwtd@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
>> :Time just rolls on. I realize now that I think about it, that it has
>> :been about 15 years since I dove with them. We had a divemaster named
>> :Nacho that was great. 15 years is a long time so things may have
>> :changed with them.
>>
>> What about Aqua World? How long ago was that and what did you not
>> like about them?
>
>Good question about what he didn't like about Aqua World if he liked
>Aqua Safari (I don't think they are any different 15 years ago as they
>are today).
>
>Aqua World is the outfit from Cancun that take divers from Cancun
>directly to Dive boat(s) waiting near the Palancar Reefs. It's a
>fairly
>recent phenomenon.
>
>-- Reef Fish Bob.

Bill wrote:
> Aqua World was the on site OP at the hotel we stayed at back then.
> Something Sol I think-

Sounds right. May be Playa del Sol. Our boat used to take surface
interval at that public pier and one could buy ice cream and food
there.

Don't know what name it changed to, but it seemed they stopped letting
boats stop there, and there were beaches around where boats could
take their SI.




> I believe it has since changed names. It was
> acroos the street from the water and had a tunnel under the road to
> the beach.
>
> On 26 Nov 2006 19:39:45 -0800, "Reef Fish"
> <large_nassua_grouper@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Dan Bracuk wrote:
> >> Bill <nospamwtd@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
> >> :Time just rolls on. I realize now that I think about it, that it has
> >> :been about 15 years since I dove with them. We had a divemaster named
> >> :Nacho that was great. 15 years is a long time so things may have
> >> :changed with them.
> >>
> >> What about Aqua World? How long ago was that and what did you not
> >> like about them?
> >
> >Good question about what he didn't like about Aqua World if he liked
> >Aqua Safari (I don't think they are any different 15 years ago as they
> >are today).
> >
> >Aqua World is the outfit from Cancun that take divers from Cancun
> >directly to Dive boat(s) waiting near the Palancar Reefs. It's a
> >fairly
> >recent phenomenon.
> >
> >-- Reef Fish Bob.

Thus spake Bill <nospamwtd@cox.net> :

>Deb & I went to the Reef Club in Cozumel,
>http://www.reefclubcozumel.com/cms, We loved the place. We are going
>back this april. We dove with Sand Dollar Sports the on site
>operator. They were very good and safe. I was impressed that every
>boat had a tower on it. They said they had them to make it easier to
>spot divers in the water.
>

I've dived with them twice, both off cruise ships. It must be the
level of clientle, but I was singularly unimpressed with them. Even
though I was on a boat with supposedly advanced divers (everybody had
a significant number of dives under their belt and were all
experienced with Cozumel), the dives were rather meek. We did Santa
Rosa, but the profile was absurd.

Maybe diving from the resort gets you a different level of "respect".
--
dillon

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