Bonaire by Cruise

"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
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> Finally, gloves are specifically allowed when diving on the wreck of
> the Hilma Hooker.

I don't see why. I've dived there several times and never used nor needed
them.

Skeptic wrote:
> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
> > Finally, gloves are specifically allowed when diving on the wreck of
> > the Hilma Hooker.
>
> I don't see why. I've dived there several times and never used nor needed
> them.

Wrecks are equated to rusty metal, and most people believe that any cut
will thus always result in getting Lockjaw, unless everyone's Tetanus
Immunization onboard the whole diveboat is up to date.

Don't expect that an exception to a fairly irrational rule has to be
rational on its own.


-hh

Geez guys, didn't mean to alert the glove police here. I guess I should
have elaborated a bit:

"I've done the majority of my dives from shore"...probably a thousand on
Okinawa and a couple few on the north shore of Hawaii.

"Lots more stuff to consider"... like ironshore, dead coral, surf, rocks,
box jellyfish, "Habu" jellyfish, stonefish, scorpionfish, crown of thorns
starfish, and did I mention surf, etc... none of which you want to
touch/scrape yourself on, but if you're clumsy like me... We also had lots
of banded sea snakes, Lionfish, and you would see a Blue Ringed Octopus in
the tidals every once in a while, though no one ever had any problems with
those critters.

I guess my point is, wear the neoprene and gloves for protection. I put my
gloves away down in Cozumel to keep everyone happy, but I don't have to
advocate it.
--
Rapid Rick
"Just Dive, Baby"

"Skeptic" <bcs002b@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Okidiver" <okidiver@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> I've done the majority of my dives from shore. Lots more stuff to
>> consider...I recommend a good robust set of booties (the best I've seen
>> are felt bottomed), a full wetsuit, snorkel, and gloves. Rocks, reef,
>> surf, and surface swims, ya see...
>
> Yikes! dude, you're not diving in New England. Many people dive with
> nothing but a T shirt. I have. Now I wear a shortie wet suit which is
> more than sufficient. I'd never even even dream of wearing gloves on any
> caribbean dive, and I don't think they're even allowed in Bonaire.
> Booties can make a rocky entrance easier, but are by no means a necessity.
>

One last comment about the gloves. This is drectly from the Bonaire Marine
Park.

Last but not least is that local law under supervision of the Bonaire Marine
Park protects the reefs. Anything in the water from 0-200 feet is protected.
Spear fishing, anchoring, diving with gloves, contact with the reef. is
prohibited.


"Okidiver" <okidiver@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Geez guys, didn't mean to alert the glove police here. I guess I should
> have elaborated a bit:
>
> "I've done the majority of my dives from shore"...probably a thousand on
> Okinawa and a couple few on the north shore of Hawaii.
>
> "Lots more stuff to consider"... like ironshore, dead coral, surf, rocks,
> box jellyfish, "Habu" jellyfish, stonefish, scorpionfish, crown of thorns
> starfish, and did I mention surf, etc... none of which you want to
> touch/scrape yourself on, but if you're clumsy like me... We also had
> lots of banded sea snakes, Lionfish, and you would see a Blue Ringed
> Octopus in the tidals every once in a while, though no one ever had any
> problems with those critters.
>
> I guess my point is, wear the neoprene and gloves for protection. I put
> my gloves away down in Cozumel to keep everyone happy, but I don't have to
> advocate it.
> --
> Rapid Rick
> "Just Dive, Baby"
>
> "Skeptic" <bcs002b@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:D9Zeg.9613$1i1.1576@attbi_s72...
>>
>> "Okidiver" <okidiver@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:q6vdg.33627$fG3.12590@dukeread09...
>>> I've done the majority of my dives from shore. Lots more stuff to
>>> consider...I recommend a good robust set of booties (the best I've seen
>>> are felt bottomed), a full wetsuit, snorkel, and gloves. Rocks, reef,
>>> surf, and surface swims, ya see...
>>
>> Yikes! dude, you're not diving in New England. Many people dive with
>> nothing but a T shirt. I have. Now I wear a shortie wet suit which is
>> more than sufficient. I'd never even even dream of wearing gloves on any
>> caribbean dive, and I don't think they're even allowed in Bonaire.
>> Booties can make a rocky entrance easier, but are by no means a
>> necessity.
>>
>
>

ginmill01 wrote:
> One last comment about the gloves. This is drectly from the Bonaire Marine
> Park.
>
> Last but not least is that local law under supervision of the Bonaire Marine
> Park protects the reefs. Anything in the water from 0-200 feet is protected.
> Spear fishing, anchoring, diving with gloves, contact with the reef. is
> prohibited.

What diving with gloves has to do with any of that other stuff is beyond
me, because none of that other stuff has anything to do with why I wear
gloves.


--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

"Allodoxaphobia" <bit-bucket@config.com> wrote in message
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> ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.travel.caribbean.]
> On Thu, 25 May 2006 23:03:37 -0500, Okidiver wrote:
>> I've done the majority of my dives from shore. Lots more stuff to
>> consider...I recommend a good robust set of booties (the best I've seen
>> are
>> felt bottomed), a full wetsuit, snorkel, and gloves.
>
> Gloves are *not* allowed in Bonaire diving. The entire shoreline of the
> island out to something like 100M is a marine park. Too many yayhoos
> use gloves to hang onto the coral while harassing the sea life.
> You are not permitted to remove _anything_ - dead or alive - from the
> marine park.

Sounds like a reason to ban yahoos, not gloves.

Thus spake "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> :

>"Allodoxaphobia" <bit-bucket@config.com> wrote in message
>news:slrne7ev46.1j9u.bit-bucket@shell.config.com...
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.travel.caribbean.]
>> On Thu, 25 May 2006 23:03:37 -0500, Okidiver wrote:
>>> I've done the majority of my dives from shore. Lots more stuff to
>>> consider...I recommend a good robust set of booties (the best I've seen
>>> are
>>> felt bottomed), a full wetsuit, snorkel, and gloves.
>>
>> Gloves are *not* allowed in Bonaire diving. The entire shoreline of the
>> island out to something like 100M is a marine park. Too many yayhoos
>> use gloves to hang onto the coral while harassing the sea life.
>> You are not permitted to remove _anything_ - dead or alive - from the
>> marine park.
>
>Sounds like a reason to ban yahoos, not gloves.
>
Gloves don't kill coral, yahoos kill coral.

Actually, I can almost tolerate the yahoos, it's the fucking idiots
that drive me bonkers.
--
dillon

I didn't climb to the top of the
food chain to become a vegetarian.

"Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
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> ginmill01 wrote:
>> One last comment about the gloves. This is drectly from the Bonaire
>> Marine Park.
>>
>> Last but not least is that local law under supervision of the Bonaire
>> Marine Park protects the reefs. Anything in the water from 0-200 feet is
>> protected. Spear fishing, anchoring, diving with gloves, contact with the
>> reef. is prohibited.
>
> What diving with gloves has to do with any of that other stuff is beyond
> me, because none of that other stuff has anything to do with why I wear
> gloves.

Diving with gloves has the same effect as anchoring - it tends to lead to
the death of coral and thus destruction of the reef. If you can't dive
without putting your paw prints all over the sea life, then you really need
to learn how to dive.

"Skeptic" <bcs002b@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
> news:127q21qn08d4359@corp.supernews.com...
>> ginmill01 wrote:
>>> One last comment about the gloves. This is drectly from the Bonaire
>>> Marine Park.
>>>
>>> Last but not least is that local law under supervision of the Bonaire
>>> Marine Park protects the reefs. Anything in the water from 0-200 feet is
>>> protected. Spear fishing, anchoring, diving with gloves, contact with
>>> the reef. is prohibited.
>>
>> What diving with gloves has to do with any of that other stuff is beyond
>> me, because none of that other stuff has anything to do with why I wear
>> gloves.
>
> Diving with gloves has the same effect as anchoring - it tends to lead to
> the death of coral and thus destruction of the reef. If you can't dive
> without putting your paw prints all over the sea life, then you really
> need to learn how to dive.


If diving with gloves has anything to do with that, you need to take up
stamp collecting.


--
Popeye
"If one does as God does enough times, one
will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector.

www.finalprotectivefire.com

"Skeptic" <bcs002b@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> There are many causes. Gloves when diving is one of them. That is the
> entire basis for their being banned in Bonaire.

Wow.

Everyone up here wears gloves because of the water temperature.

Our reefs are fine.