Just returned from Bonaire

Anyone interested, we just returned from two weeks in Bonaire. Fifth
trip. We really enjoy the place and people. The diving was good, but not
great this time. It's probably the time of year. We have always gone in
the winter, this was the first summer trip.

The vis was 30-60 ft. The water was about 80*. Saw a few turtles,
lobster, green moray eels, spotted eel, stingray, snake eels, banded shrimp,
arrow crab, and the usual parrot fish, angel fish, snapper, etc.

Restaurants of note:
Cactus Blue, owned by Corrine and Hagen, former managers of Buddy Dive
is maybe the best on the island. They have fabulous sashimi tuna!
Bistro de Paris, owned by Patrice is really excellent. Almost a tie
with Cactus Blue. Some classic French food with no heavy sauces. Very
fresh fish. His tuna was also great.
Donna & Giorgio is good Italian, if a bit slow service. (after all it
is the island)
Lion's Den is a bit expensive.
The Lost Penguin is really great for lunch. They make a fish sandwich
with the day's catch that is generous in size, excellent in taste, and
modest in cost. Renada, one of the owners, usually waits the tables. She
is very charming and well informed of local culture.

Medical issues:
Always take mosquito deterrent. Immodium is a necessity, as you cannot
buy it over the counter there. The water is clean, tastes good, and is safe
to drink.

Other:
Bonaire is clean, safe, and everyone speaks English, some Spanish, and
Dutch
Great place to also take the kids if you want a family place.
Easy to drive anyplace on the island.
The Dollar is accepted everywhere.
There are several grocery stores that carry items widely seen and used
in US.

There is snorkeling, and most of the 'larger' (not really large by US
standards) have some kids activities. There is beaching, most have a pool.
The town is small, about 10,000 people, the whole island is about 13,500.
There is a small bowling alley. There are lots of hiking trails and biking
too. Some sights to see by driving around the island.
Yes, it is safe to shore dive solo, however, there are always plenty of
people to join in with. Everyone is very welcoming. The sites are well
marked and most are pretty easy to enter/exit. I use a piece of highway
warning plastic about 30' long taped to a fishing bobber and a weight to
mark our entry exit point. We just swim out to about 35-40' and drop it,
then back in BC pocket at the end of the dive. It's easier than trying to
remember the blue fish. Most areas have little or no current. Generally,
the north end of the island is prettier and the reef is a shorter swim than
the south end. The south end can be a 15 minute swim to the reef, while the
north is 2-3 minutes.
The costs for most places are similar. The Plaza is the largest hotel
on the island, and probably has the most activities, however, we have stayed
at Buddy Dive, Captain Don's and BelMar. BelMar is the nicest of the three,
but the smallest with less to do for the family. There are new
condo/timeshares being built too, some to be ready late this year or early
next.
I am sure you will really enjoy it a lot. We met a couple there that
have been a few times and brought their two boys this time. They are 6 and
8. Mrs was saying she brought them because she knew it was safe and thought
it would be a great first 'foreign' experience for the kids.
Getting there can be a bit of a challenge. I think you could go thru
Miami. We are in Phoenix and used Continental from Phx to Houston to
Bonaire.




"Caribbean Girl" <nothanks@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DGdsg.10917$Oc5.7924@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> Thanks for the info! My husband has been trying to convince me to go for
> a while now and we're trying to figure out if it'll be a good trip for the
> whole family to go on. We have a six and a one year old. Is there
> anything for the three of us non-divers to do there? Is it safe for him
> to do the shore diving alone? Is there a good hotel you would recommend?
> One last question: What's the best way to get there? We live in Atlanta
> GA and there we haven't found any really good flight options.
>
> We'll be there for one day in December via cruise ship. We're hoping to
> scope it out then.
>
> "ginmill01" <ginmill01@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ZX9sg.111541$TK1.75484@fed1read06...
>> Anyone interested, we just returned from two weeks in Bonaire. Fifth
>> trip. We really enjoy the place and people. The diving was good, but
>> not great this time. It's probably the time of year. We have always
>> gone in the winter, this was the first summer trip.
>>
>> The vis was 30-60 ft. The water was about 80*. Saw a few turtles,
>> lobster, green moray eels, spotted eel, stingray, snake eels, banded
>> shrimp, arrow crab, and the usual parrot fish, angel fish, snapper, etc.
>>
>> Restaurants of note:
>> Cactus Blue, owned by Corrine and Hagen, former managers of Buddy Dive
>> is maybe the best on the island. They have fabulous sashimi tuna!
>> Bistro de Paris, owned by Patrice is really excellent. Almost a tie
>> with Cactus Blue. Some classic French food with no heavy sauces. Very
>> fresh fish. His tuna was also great.
>> Donna & Giorgio is good Italian, if a bit slow service. (after all it
>> is the island)
>> Lion's Den is a bit expensive.
>> The Lost Penguin is really great for lunch. They make a fish sandwich
>> with the day's catch that is generous in size, excellent in taste, and
>> modest in cost. Renada, one of the owners, usually waits the tables.
>> She is very charming and well informed of local culture.
>>
>> Medical issues:
>> Always take mosquito deterrent. Immodium is a necessity, as you
>> cannot buy it over the counter there. The water is clean, tastes good,
>> and is safe to drink.
>>
>> Other:
>> Bonaire is clean, safe, and everyone speaks English, some Spanish, and
>> Dutch
>> Great place to also take the kids if you want a family place.
>> Easy to drive anyplace on the island.
>> The Dollar is accepted everywhere.
>> There are several grocery stores that carry items widely seen and used
>> in US.
>>
>
>

Thanks a lot! Great input!


"ginmill01" <ginmill01@cox.net> wrote in message
news:uqgsg.111553$TK1.74754@fed1read06...
> There is snorkeling, and most of the 'larger' (not really large by US
> standards) have some kids activities. There is beaching, most have a
> pool. The town is small, about 10,000 people, the whole island is about
> 13,500. There is a small bowling alley. There are lots of hiking trails
> and biking too. Some sights to see by driving around the island.
> Yes, it is safe to shore dive solo, however, there are always plenty of
> people to join in with. Everyone is very welcoming. The sites are well
> marked and most are pretty easy to enter/exit. I use a piece of highway
> warning plastic about 30' long taped to a fishing bobber and a weight to
> mark our entry exit point. We just swim out to about 35-40' and drop it,
> then back in BC pocket at the end of the dive. It's easier than trying to
> remember the blue fish. Most areas have little or no current. Generally,
> the north end of the island is prettier and the reef is a shorter swim
> than the south end. The south end can be a 15 minute swim to the reef,
> while the north is 2-3 minutes.
> The costs for most places are similar. The Plaza is the largest hotel
> on the island, and probably has the most activities, however, we have
> stayed at Buddy Dive, Captain Don's and BelMar. BelMar is the nicest of
> the three, but the smallest with less to do for the family. There are new
> condo/timeshares being built too, some to be ready late this year or early
> next.
> I am sure you will really enjoy it a lot. We met a couple there that
> have been a few times and brought their two boys this time. They are 6
> and 8. Mrs was saying she brought them because she knew it was safe and
> thought it would be a great first 'foreign' experience for the kids.
> Getting there can be a bit of a challenge. I think you could go thru
> Miami. We are in Phoenix and used Continental from Phx to Houston to
> Bonaire.
>
>
>
>
> "Caribbean Girl" <nothanks@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DGdsg.10917$Oc5.7924@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
>> Thanks for the info! My husband has been trying to convince me to go for
>> a while now and we're trying to figure out if it'll be a good trip for
>> the whole family to go on. We have a six and a one year old. Is there
>> anything for the three of us non-divers to do there? Is it safe for him
>> to do the shore diving alone? Is there a good hotel you would recommend?
>> One last question: What's the best way to get there? We live in Atlanta
>> GA and there we haven't found any really good flight options.
>>
>> We'll be there for one day in December via cruise ship. We're hoping to
>> scope it out then.
>>
>> "ginmill01" <ginmill01@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:ZX9sg.111541$TK1.75484@fed1read06...
>>> Anyone interested, we just returned from two weeks in Bonaire. Fifth
>>> trip. We really enjoy the place and people. The diving was good, but
>>> not great this time. It's probably the time of year. We have always
>>> gone in the winter, this was the first summer trip.
>>>
>>> The vis was 30-60 ft. The water was about 80*. Saw a few turtles,
>>> lobster, green moray eels, spotted eel, stingray, snake eels, banded
>>> shrimp, arrow crab, and the usual parrot fish, angel fish, snapper, etc.
>>>
>>> Restaurants of note:
>>> Cactus Blue, owned by Corrine and Hagen, former managers of Buddy
>>> Dive is maybe the best on the island. They have fabulous sashimi tuna!
>>> Bistro de Paris, owned by Patrice is really excellent. Almost a tie
>>> with Cactus Blue. Some classic French food with no heavy sauces. Very
>>> fresh fish. His tuna was also great.
>>> Donna & Giorgio is good Italian, if a bit slow service. (after all
>>> it is the island)
>>> Lion's Den is a bit expensive.
>>> The Lost Penguin is really great for lunch. They make a fish
>>> sandwich with the day's catch that is generous in size, excellent in
>>> taste, and modest in cost. Renada, one of the owners, usually waits the
>>> tables. She is very charming and well informed of local culture.
>>>
>>> Medical issues:
>>> Always take mosquito deterrent. Immodium is a necessity, as you
>>> cannot buy it over the counter there. The water is clean, tastes good,
>>> and is safe to drink.
>>>
>>> Other:
>>> Bonaire is clean, safe, and everyone speaks English, some Spanish,
>>> and Dutch
>>> Great place to also take the kids if you want a family place.
>>> Easy to drive anyplace on the island.
>>> The Dollar is accepted everywhere.
>>> There are several grocery stores that carry items widely seen and
>>> used in US.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

In article <DGdsg.10917$Oc5.7924@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
nothanks@microsoft.com says...
> Thanks for the info! My husband has been trying to convince me to go for a
> while now and we're trying to figure out if it'll be a good trip for the
> whole family to go on. We have a six and a one year old. Is there anything
> for the three of us non-divers to do there? Is it safe for him to do the
> shore diving alone? Is there a good hotel you would recommend? One last
> question: What's the best way to get there? We live in Atlanta GA and there
> we haven't found any really good flight options.

We were there for a week last July. There isn't alot to do for non
divers. Your best bet for a family with non divers is the Plaza
http://www.plazaresortbonaire.com/ It is the high end on the island, but
when we compared, it wasn't really more expensive than other places.
There is a beach and swimming pool there, and it is close to town.

Your husband should be ok shore diving by himself (not getting into the
issue of _diving_ alone), but there is a problem there with petty theft.
You can't leave anything at all in your truck, and you need to leave the
doors unlocked and the windows open. They will even steal the gas cap or
spare tire. It's best if someone can watch the truck while he dives. If
he wants to dive at night, it's best to just dive from your hotel. I
don't think personal safety is an issue, but there is more thieving at
night. Most of the places are on the water and the reef runs all the
way along the side of the island.

When I was there in '97, we stayed at the Sand Dollar, and some in our
group had unsecured valuables taken from their rooms. Use the little
safes.

To get there, you can try to use Continental's direct flight from
Houston, but you'll probably end up going from Atlanta to Cuacao or
Aruba and taking Bonaire Exel, or whatever they call it this week. We
had a lot of trouble trying to book Bonaire Exel ourselves, and ended up
using a travel agent who is familiar with them to buy those flights. We
planned on spending one night on Aruba instead of trying to make a tight
connection, and it proved to be the right thing to do.

al

Caribbean Girl wrote:
>we're trying to figure out if it'll be a good trip for the whole family to go on.

No. Bonaire is an arrid desert.

> We have a six and a one year old.

Lucky you.

> Is there anything for the three of us non-divers to do there?

No. Bonaire is an arrid desert.

> Is it safe for him to do the shore diving alone?

No. Diving is never safe. Shore diving is less so, and doing it alone
in a
strange place is not a good idea.

> Is there a good hotel you would recommend?

No.

> One last
> question: What's the best way to get there? We live in Atlanta GA and there
> we haven't found any really good flight options.

There is regular nonstop service to Bonaire from Amsterdam.

The current route is via PR on AA using American Eagle small commuter
turbo props. They are bumpy, loud and small. The service is not daily,
so if
your connection is late you get to spend *days* in PR.

Dive resorts are no place for an infant, or a small child. Taking your
children there would be a huge imposition on the other guests. Believe
it or not, some people think infants should nurtured at home. There is
hardly anything less appreciated or more feared than the aircraft seat
next to an infant or small child, unless its the seats in front or
behind.

For every dottard that isn't offended, there are a hundred pairs of
rolling eyes and silent prayers promising anything in hopes of not
being
afflicted with your smelly, screaming, snotty, puking mess, which is
probably incubating eight kinds of contagion since that's what babies
do,
pretty much continuously, until they are 6 or 7, when they reduce to 2
or 3.

It's such a treat to be in restaurant on the balcony overlooking the
sunset and have the whole meal and mood slaughtered by a
screaming child. Why is it that the handlers never want to reimburse
me for ruining our evening?

Then there's the inevitable thoughtless placement of a bassinet or
baby carrier. On the bar. On the table. It's so very special.

Lets not forget the baby's health. My best friends son is profoundly
deaf, because he had to take him on a plane trip to show him off.
The poor kid had an undetected blockage caused by minor illness
and cabin pressure blew his ears out. He was abnormally cranky,
but unable to talk. Even if he could, what would he say. "My ears
hurt. Land the plane."? Of course arriving in a strange place on
vacation the child went untreated since they had no way of
knowing what had happened or even that the baby was seriously
injured. In any case, how do you find a trustworthy pediatrician
in a strange land where they treat croup with chicken blood?

You wanted a baby. You got a baby.
Infants are delicate. What are you thinking?

Leave the baby with a friend, your sister/brother/mother. Maybe you
can hire a house sitter/nanny. Failing that, maybe a kennel
will take it.

Bonaire is not for you. That's the price you pay, don't share the cost.
Stay home. Love your child. Keep it safe. Drive to Disney.

bullshark

On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 20:08:10 -0400, "Caribbean Girl"
<nothanks@microsoft.com> wrote:

>Thanks a lot! Great input!
>
>

<snip stuff>

Try Air Jamacia, they fly Atlanta to Montego Bay, and moe bay to
Bonnaire. They had a service melt down two years ago but seem to have
gotten their stuff in order I flew from Philly to Bonnaire with them
in Feb, and had no problems. Plus they have very reasonable upgrades
to first class.

Cool. Spending a night in Aruba doesn't sound bad! Thanks for the info!
"Al Wells" <al.wells@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f1b6904e4a0c8b998984a@news.verizon.net.. .
> In article <DGdsg.10917$Oc5.7924@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
> nothanks@microsoft.com says...
>> Thanks for the info! My husband has been trying to convince me to go for
>> a
>> while now and we're trying to figure out if it'll be a good trip for the
>> whole family to go on. We have a six and a one year old. Is there
>> anything
>> for the three of us non-divers to do there? Is it safe for him to do the
>> shore diving alone? Is there a good hotel you would recommend? One last
>> question: What's the best way to get there? We live in Atlanta GA and
>> there
>> we haven't found any really good flight options.
>
> We were there for a week last July. There isn't alot to do for non
> divers. Your best bet for a family with non divers is the Plaza
> http://www.plazaresortbonaire.com/ It is the high end on the island, but
> when we compared, it wasn't really more expensive than other places.
> There is a beach and swimming pool there, and it is close to town.
>
> Your husband should be ok shore diving by himself (not getting into the
> issue of _diving_ alone), but there is a problem there with petty theft.
> You can't leave anything at all in your truck, and you need to leave the
> doors unlocked and the windows open. They will even steal the gas cap or
> spare tire. It's best if someone can watch the truck while he dives. If
> he wants to dive at night, it's best to just dive from your hotel. I
> don't think personal safety is an issue, but there is more thieving at
> night. Most of the places are on the water and the reef runs all the
> way along the side of the island.
>
> When I was there in '97, we stayed at the Sand Dollar, and some in our
> group had unsecured valuables taken from their rooms. Use the little
> safes.
>
> To get there, you can try to use Continental's direct flight from
> Houston, but you'll probably end up going from Atlanta to Cuacao or
> Aruba and taking Bonaire Exel, or whatever they call it this week. We
> had a lot of trouble trying to book Bonaire Exel ourselves, and ended up
> using a travel agent who is familiar with them to buy those flights. We
> planned on spending one night on Aruba instead of trying to make a tight
> connection, and it proved to be the right thing to do.
>
> al
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

We have been to Bonaire 5 times. It is VERY safe. We have NEVER had
anything stolen. We heard on one item stolen the week before we got there.
Some guy left his t shirt on the hood of his truck...maybe it blew away! We
shore dive and never have problems. There were plenty of families there
when we went. Some folks we met were on their 4th trip. They brought their
2 sons, 6 and 8 and had plenty to do. They stayed at Buddy Dive, which is
where we stayed. They raved about how wonderful it was. They swam, layed
by the pool, hiked, read, bowled, and told us that it was the best. Yes,
the Plaza probably has more for the kids because it is bigger. As for the
diving. It is and can be safe if the diver is smart. Walking can be
dangerous if done wrong. Bonaire is a very safe place to dive. Again,
there are always plenty of people that you can join up with if you are
traveling alone.





"bullshark" <bullshark@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152538318.380733.306610@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Caribbean Girl wrote:
>>we're trying to figure out if it'll be a good trip for the whole family to
>>go on.
>
> No. Bonaire is an arrid desert.
>
>> We have a six and a one year old.
>
> Lucky you.
>
>> Is there anything for the three of us non-divers to do there?
>
> No. Bonaire is an arrid desert.
>
>> Is it safe for him to do the shore diving alone?
>
> No. Diving is never safe. Shore diving is less so, and doing it alone
> in a
> strange place is not a good idea.
>
>> Is there a good hotel you would recommend?
>
> No.
>
>> One last
>> question: What's the best way to get there? We live in Atlanta GA and
>> there
>> we haven't found any really good flight options.
>
> There is regular nonstop service to Bonaire from Amsterdam.
>
> The current route is via PR on AA using American Eagle small commuter
> turbo props. They are bumpy, loud and small. The service is not daily,
> so if
> your connection is late you get to spend *days* in PR.
>
> Dive resorts are no place for an infant, or a small child. Taking your
> children there would be a huge imposition on the other guests. Believe
> it or not, some people think infants should nurtured at home. There is
> hardly anything less appreciated or more feared than the aircraft seat
> next to an infant or small child, unless its the seats in front or
> behind.
>
> For every dottard that isn't offended, there are a hundred pairs of
> rolling eyes and silent prayers promising anything in hopes of not
> being
> afflicted with your smelly, screaming, snotty, puking mess, which is
> probably incubating eight kinds of contagion since that's what babies
> do,
> pretty much continuously, until they are 6 or 7, when they reduce to 2
> or 3.
>
> It's such a treat to be in restaurant on the balcony overlooking the
> sunset and have the whole meal and mood slaughtered by a
> screaming child. Why is it that the handlers never want to reimburse
> me for ruining our evening?
>
> Then there's the inevitable thoughtless placement of a bassinet or
> baby carrier. On the bar. On the table. It's so very special.
>
> Lets not forget the baby's health. My best friends son is profoundly
> deaf, because he had to take him on a plane trip to show him off.
> The poor kid had an undetected blockage caused by minor illness
> and cabin pressure blew his ears out. He was abnormally cranky,
> but unable to talk. Even if he could, what would he say. "My ears
> hurt. Land the plane."? Of course arriving in a strange place on
> vacation the child went untreated since they had no way of
> knowing what had happened or even that the baby was seriously
> injured. In any case, how do you find a trustworthy pediatrician
> in a strange land where they treat croup with chicken blood?
>
> You wanted a baby. You got a baby.
> Infants are delicate. What are you thinking?
>
> Leave the baby with a friend, your sister/brother/mother. Maybe you
> can hire a house sitter/nanny. Failing that, maybe a kennel
> will take it.
>
> Bonaire is not for you. That's the price you pay, don't share the cost.
> Stay home. Love your child. Keep it safe. Drive to Disney.
>
> bullshark
>

"ginmill01" <ginmill01@cox.net> wrote in message
news:v3itg.111645$TK1.100619@fed1read06...
> We have been to Bonaire 5 times. It is VERY safe. We have NEVER had
> anything stolen. We heard on one item stolen the week before we got
> there. Some guy left his t shirt on the hood of his truck...maybe it blew
> away! We shore dive and never have problems. There were plenty of
> families there when we went. Some folks we met were on their 4th trip.
> They brought their 2 sons, 6 and 8 and had plenty to do. They stayed at
> Buddy Dive, which is where we stayed. They raved about how wonderful it
> was. They swam, layed by the pool, hiked, read, bowled, and told us that
> it was the best. Yes, the Plaza probably has more for the kids because it
> is bigger. As for the diving. It is and can be safe if the diver is
> smart. Walking can be dangerous if done wrong. Bonaire is a very safe
> place to dive. Again, there are always plenty of people that you can join
> up with if you are traveling alone.

Pardon me for saying this, but you sound like a commercial advertisement.
Your comments are inconsistent with a long history of comments by other
divers.

Bullshark, on the other hand, has a long history of very precise and
accurate posts in this forum.

Lee

What do you mean "there are always plenty of people that you can join up
with"? Is it people you find at the dive sites? They don't mind you diving
with them? It's good to hear about how safe it is. I would just rather he
dive with someone.

Thanks!


"ginmill01" <ginmill01@cox.net> wrote in message
news:v3itg.111645$TK1.100619@fed1read06...
> We have been to Bonaire 5 times. It is VERY safe. We have NEVER had
> anything stolen. We heard on one item stolen the week before we got
> there. Some guy left his t shirt on the hood of his truck...maybe it blew
> away! We shore dive and never have problems. There were plenty of
> families there when we went. Some folks we met were on their 4th trip.
> They brought their 2 sons, 6 and 8 and had plenty to do. They stayed at
> Buddy Dive, which is where we stayed. They raved about how wonderful it
> was. They swam, layed by the pool, hiked, read, bowled, and told us that
> it was the best. Yes, the Plaza probably has more for the kids because it
> is bigger. As for the diving. It is and can be safe if the diver is
> smart. Walking can be dangerous if done wrong. Bonaire is a very safe
> place to dive. Again, there are always plenty of people that you can join
> up with if you are traveling alone.
>
>
>
>
>
> "bullshark" <bullshark@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1152538318.380733.306610@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Caribbean Girl wrote:
>>>we're trying to figure out if it'll be a good trip for the whole family
>>>to go on.
>>
>> No. Bonaire is an arrid desert.
>>
>>> We have a six and a one year old.
>>
>> Lucky you.
>>
>>> Is there anything for the three of us non-divers to do there?
>>
>> No. Bonaire is an arrid desert.
>>
>>> Is it safe for him to do the shore diving alone?
>>
>> No. Diving is never safe. Shore diving is less so, and doing it alone
>> in a
>> strange place is not a good idea.
>>
>>> Is there a good hotel you would recommend?
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> One last
>>> question: What's the best way to get there? We live in Atlanta GA and
>>> there
>>> we haven't found any really good flight options.
>>
>> There is regular nonstop service to Bonaire from Amsterdam.
>>
>> The current route is via PR on AA using American Eagle small commuter
>> turbo props. They are bumpy, loud and small. The service is not daily,
>> so if
>> your connection is late you get to spend *days* in PR.
>>
>> Dive resorts are no place for an infant, or a small child. Taking your
>> children there would be a huge imposition on the other guests. Believe
>> it or not, some people think infants should nurtured at home. There is
>> hardly anything less appreciated or more feared than the aircraft seat
>> next to an infant or small child, unless its the seats in front or
>> behind.
>>
>> For every dottard that isn't offended, there are a hundred pairs of
>> rolling eyes and silent prayers promising anything in hopes of not
>> being
>> afflicted with your smelly, screaming, snotty, puking mess, which is
>> probably incubating eight kinds of contagion since that's what babies
>> do,
>> pretty much continuously, until they are 6 or 7, when they reduce to 2
>> or 3.
>>
>> It's such a treat to be in restaurant on the balcony overlooking the
>> sunset and have the whole meal and mood slaughtered by a
>> screaming child. Why is it that the handlers never want to reimburse
>> me for ruining our evening?
>>
>> Then there's the inevitable thoughtless placement of a bassinet or
>> baby carrier. On the bar. On the table. It's so very special.
>>
>> Lets not forget the baby's health. My best friends son is profoundly
>> deaf, because he had to take him on a plane trip to show him off.
>> The poor kid had an undetected blockage caused by minor illness
>> and cabin pressure blew his ears out. He was abnormally cranky,
>> but unable to talk. Even if he could, what would he say. "My ears
>> hurt. Land the plane."? Of course arriving in a strange place on
>> vacation the child went untreated since they had no way of
>> knowing what had happened or even that the baby was seriously
>> injured. In any case, how do you find a trustworthy pediatrician
>> in a strange land where they treat croup with chicken blood?
>>
>> You wanted a baby. You got a baby.
>> Infants are delicate. What are you thinking?
>>
>> Leave the baby with a friend, your sister/brother/mother. Maybe you
>> can hire a house sitter/nanny. Failing that, maybe a kennel
>> will take it.
>>
>> Bonaire is not for you. That's the price you pay, don't share the cost.
>> Stay home. Love your child. Keep it safe. Drive to Disney.
>>
>> bullshark
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