BNG goes to PNG

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "shawnabbtt" <shawnabbtt@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1131452095.758341.66450@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > If you guys could quit having a pissing contest, i would be interested
> > in the dives done in French Polynesia. I dove PNG in August on a land
> > package at the Tawali, built by the owners of Oceanic. Great diving!
>
> French Polynesia, aka "Tahiti", covers five large island groups spread over
> almost a million square miles of the Pacific. Therefore, your request is a
> bit broad.

That is incorrect. Tahiti is just one of the islands in the Society
Islands
group of French Polynesia. See the brief geographical description in
the post "Cruising and Diving in French Polynesia (LONG)" I posted in
2003.

> Reef Fish has posted
> several times about the interisland cruising available there which you can
> easily Google.

http://tinyurl.com/buh53

The post describes specifically the Marquesus itinerary, which is, IMO,
the
best of the FIVE different itineraries I've dived the French Polynesian
on the
Princess Cruise line.

Probably because of the lack of a market for some of the other
itineraries
(getting to Pepeete could cost more than the price of a 10-day cruise
itself),
the only itineraries that are still offered are the Marquesus and and
Cook
Islands.

Marquesus is by far the better of the two.


>
> My experiences are limited to diving one of the Society Islands, Moorea, and
> diving several of the Tuamotu Atolls off the Tahiti Aggressor (I believe we
> hit five of them). The Aggressor is based on the largest of the Atolls,
> Rangiroa, accessed by a 2 hour flight from Papeete. Rangiroa has several
> hotels with their own dive operations, and is suitable for land-based
> diving. The Blue Dolphin dive shop at the Kia Ora hotel is
> rebreather-friendly as well, with rental Draegers and Inspirations in stock.

For years, Rangiroa has been known as the place for "shark diving", and
probably the best known of the FP islands besides Tahiti and Bora Bora.

The Tahiti Aggressor based its itinerary on the Tuamotu island group in
which Rangiroa belongs and for publicity reasons hypes the several
passes it dives, to have currents up to 12 knots -- probably on Tuesday
nights every leap year when there is blue moon.


> The diving of Rangiroa, as is the case with the other atolls, some
> uninhabited, that the Aggressor visits, primarily features "diving the
> cut" - i.e., high speed drift diving through the gap in the reef during
> tidal changes. The Aggressor has termed this "pass flying" and offers a TDI
> specialty card for those who collect them. In addition to the adrenalin
> charge from the "flying", the atolls are teeming with reef sharks, and other
> big animals (turtles, various rays, Napolean wrasses, titan triggerfish) are
> frequently spotted. I had some issues with the boat and the French DM when
> we went, but I've spoken to others who have been on the boat more recently
> and had none of the problems I encountered.

The problem was problem with Greg, as his problem in the first time he
ever dived with Aldora. The French DM is Pierre who is by far
the
most experienced of the DMs on the Tahiti Aggressor. He is a local who

knows the ins and outs of the diving there, and is what I call a "crazy
guy"
when it comes to chasing sharks. Look up my Tahiti Aggressor report
about my dives with Pierre. Never had any problem with him. In fact
on
several pass dives with current ripping up to about 6 knots (that was
about tops), I was the only one who could stick with Pierre.

But the Tuamotu diving, except for the thrill of the roller coster
rides on
a couple of passes, doesn't compare to many of the FP islands, even as
far as SHARK diving is concerned. Both Moorea and Bora Bora have
better shark dives (and more variety of sharks) than Rangiroa.

>
> Moorea, like the atolls, is a hard coral reef. Like Hawaii, the FP islands
> are too remote for soft corals to have found their niche. Personally, I
> find this a bit monotonous. The Tuamotus make up for it in the diverse and
> prolific sea life. Moorea, on the other hand, being much more developed and
> probably much more fished out than the Atolls, lacks in marine life as well.
> Without much marine life and with monotonous coral, I found the diving there
> to be a bit boring. However, there are sharks. Locals feed the blacktips,
> so they're very plentiful especially if you get under a local boat when
> they're "chumming" with chicken. As harmless as the scavengers are, my
> heart skipped a few beats when I realized I was the centerpiece of a feeding
> frenzy as I was ascending to the wrong boat. The main attraction of Moorea
> is the large population of "tame" lemon sharks. Unlike other mean and
> vicious lemon sharks, these big guys apparently don't bite. They look like
> big fat grey reef sharks. I wasn't too impressed, but then we had just come
> from week of diving the Tuamotus so I was a bit jaded.

Moorea is one of the few dive locations in FP that you can count on
seeing lemon sharks. They actually look more like bull sharks than
grey reef sharks, and Greg probably couldn't tell the difference
between
them.

My favorite dive of the 20 or so ISLANDS in the French Polynesia was
the dive in Nuku Hiva of the Marquesas group. Not only three
hammerheads showed up, we spent the rest of the dive looking at
huge mantas that were not regular visitors to that site.

When I dived Coco's island in 1992, one of the divers was a famous
Japanese photographer and scuba-magazine publisher. When asked
what his favorite dive location was, he immediately said "French
Polynesia".
The significance of his assessment didn't sink in until I've dived the
islands of FP, many of which would have been very inaccessible without
being on the itinerary of Princess cruises.

I am quite sure that French Polynesian diving is not nearly as well
known
as many other inferior dive locations is that it is not easy to GET
THERE.

I highly recommend French Polynesia diving to anyone -- whether diving
from cruise ships (book your own) or from land.

-- Bob.

"shawnabbtt" <shawnabbtt@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I was asking from a blurb by Bob, about French Polynesia...broad or
> not...

Sorry. I thought you wanted facts, not statistics.

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1131475926.103802.290710@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> >> French Polynesia, aka "Tahiti", covers five large island groups spread
> >> over
> >> almost a million square miles of the Pacific. Therefore, your request is
> >> a
> >> bit broad.
> >
> > That is incorrect. Tahiti is just one of the islands in the Society
> > Islands
> > group of French Polynesia. See the brief geographical description in
> > the post "Cruising and Diving in French Polynesia (LONG)" I posted in
> > 2003.
>
> That is incorrect. Tahiti is the name commonly given (by Americans, at
> least) to the islands of French Polynesia,

Ah, but people who know the place should know better.


> just like Hawaii is the name
> given to the group of Hawaiian islands,

That's not the same! Hawaii is the name of the State of Hawaii. It
happens
to have an island that is also known as Hawaii, the Big Island.


> only one of which is actually named
> Hawaii. "aka" means "also known as".

Only to the Clueless Newbies and travel agencies and travel
organizations
that target the Clueless Newbies clients. Enough of that. YOU knew
what
the correct designation should be, and all your examples are only
misnomers
for the reason I stated.


> > For years, Rangiroa has been known as the place for "shark diving", and
> > probably the best known of the FP islands besides Tahiti and Bora Bora.
> >
> > The Tahiti Aggressor based its itinerary on the Tuamotu island group in
> > which Rangiroa belongs and for publicity reasons hypes the several
> > passes it dives, to have currents up to 12 knots -- probably on Tuesday
> > nights every leap year when there is blue moon.
>
> How can they call it the Tahiti Aggressor when it doesn't go to Tahiti?

For Clueless Newbies just like Greg Mossman, who wouldn't know Tuamoto
or French Polynesia if they kicked him in the shin. :^)

>
> Besides, I know accuracy isn't exactly your strong point, but where did you
> get that Aggressor hypes 12-knot currents?

How about the DMs briefing divers when *I* was on the Tahiti Aggressor
several months before you were.

> I had heard 5-6 knots maximum
> and we experienced what we guessed to be 5.

You heard it from ME, that it was 5-6 knots max, and perhaps the
Tahitian
Aggressor crew saw my posting too (amidst a flamewar against some
Aggressor haters flaming the entire Fleet because of an incidence
elsewhere, so much so that a lawsuit against the villants was
considered
by the Fleet. So, by the time YOU went on the liveaboard, they had
revised their briefing to the more realistic estimate -- which was the
one
*I* gave, in MY trip report.


> > The problem was problem with Greg, as his problem in the first time he
> > ever dived with Aldora. The French DM is Pierre who is by far
> > the
> > most experienced of the DMs on the Tahiti Aggressor. He is a local who
> > knows the ins and outs of the diving there, and is what I call a "crazy
> > guy"
> > when it comes to chasing sharks. Look up my Tahiti Aggressor report
> > about my dives with Pierre. Never had any problem with him. In fact
> > on
> > several pass dives with current ripping up to about 6 knots (that was
> > about tops), I was the only one who could stick with Pierre.
>
> Funny that you think the problem was mine alone.

It was you. Nobody in my chartered complained about Pierre except
about
the fact that they couldn't keep up with Pierre in the swift current.
At at
5-knot current, hand-holding by a DM is not possible even if he wanted.
Those who can't hack it should have stayed on the boat, and some did.


> When we were on the boat, several of the crew
> confided to us that Pierre was forced upon them because they were required
> to have at least one French divemaster aboard, even though Pierre's former
> diving experience was limited to commercial diving and he knew absolutely
> squat about the reefs.

If Pierre was no longer part of the crew, why should his name even came

up, except for some whiner like Greg Mossman? Dive boat crew members
know how to placate clueless whiners -- by telling what THEY like to
hear,
not that they knew anything about Pierre.


> None of us had problems sticking with Pierre,

How would YOU know, if you've never dived with Pierre? We were briefed
about the 12 knot current (by an American DM) and was told we should
NEVER get away from the edge of the pass.

As soon as we got into the water, Pierre headed straight toward the
middle of the pass because he saw an 18-foot tiger shark. Several of
us
followed, even though I didn't see the tiger shark. Near the end of
that
dive, I was the only diver who was still with Pierre.


> By the end of the trip, Pierre was diving alone.

You're just repeating 2nd or 3rd hand hearsay, Pierre was NEVER diving
along on my charter. He always had ME with him, and often several
other
divers who are not clueless newbies like Greg Mossman was, at that time
of Greg's beginner-diver status.

>
> > But the Tuamotu diving, except for the thrill of the roller coster
> > rides on
> > a couple of passes, doesn't compare to many of the FP islands, even as
> > far as SHARK diving is concerned. Both Moorea and Bora Bora have
> > better shark dives (and more variety of sharks) than Rangiroa.
>
> You've admitted to missing the shark stampede at Apataki.

I didn't miss anything (except the 18-foot tiger shark on my trip).
Apataki is
not the swift drift pass.


> > Moorea is one of the few dive locations in FP that you can count on
> > seeing lemon sharks. They actually look more like bull sharks than
> > grey reef sharks, and Greg probably couldn't tell the difference
> > between
> > them.
>
> Probably not. Honestly, all sharks look alike to me.

You said it, and that's the only thing in your post with which I
couldn't disagree.

-- Bob.

"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131502918.659098.62590@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...

>> That is incorrect. Tahiti is the name commonly given (by Americans, at
>> least) to the islands of French Polynesia,
>
> Ah, but people who know the place should know better.

Perhaps that's why I put it in quotes and prefaced it with aka.

> That's not the same! Hawaii is the name of the State of Hawaii. It
> happens
> to have an island that is also known as Hawaii, the Big Island.

So what did we call Hawaii before it became a state or territory? Hawaii.

> How about the DMs briefing divers when *I* was on the Tahiti Aggressor
> several months before you were.

Pierre again? No wonder.

> You heard it from ME, that it was 5-6 knots max, and perhaps the
> Tahitian
> Aggressor crew saw my posting too (amidst a flamewar against some
> Aggressor haters flaming the entire Fleet because of an incidence
> elsewhere, so much so that a lawsuit against the villants was
> considered
> by the Fleet. So, by the time YOU went on the liveaboard, they had
> revised their briefing to the more realistic estimate -- which was the
> one
> *I* gave, in MY trip report.

You're exactly right. The entire crew were avid Reef Fish readers and
couldn't wait each night to download your latest posts over the sat phone.

> It was you. Nobody in my chartered complained about Pierre except
> about
> the fact that they couldn't keep up with Pierre in the swift current.
> At at
> 5-knot current, hand-holding by a DM is not possible even if he wanted.
> Those who can't hack it should have stayed on the boat, and some did.

If they couldn't keep up with him, they obviously didn't know what a waste
of time it was to keep up with him.

>> When we were on the boat, several of the crew
>> confided to us that Pierre was forced upon them because they were
>> required
>> to have at least one French divemaster aboard, even though Pierre's
>> former
>> diving experience was limited to commercial diving and he knew absolutely
>> squat about the reefs.
>
> If Pierre was no longer part of the crew, why should his name even came
>
> up, except for some whiner like Greg Mossman? Dive boat crew members
> know how to placate clueless whiners -- by telling what THEY like to
> hear,
> not that they knew anything about Pierre.

Pierre was part of the crew when the rest of the crew confided in me about
the reason why they couldn't get rid of him.

> How would YOU know, if you've never dived with Pierre? We were briefed
> about the 12 knot current (by an American DM) and was told we should
> NEVER get away from the edge of the pass.

Why would you say I've never dove with Pierre when I dove about 20 dives
with Pierre?

> As soon as we got into the water, Pierre headed straight toward the
> middle of the pass because he saw an 18-foot tiger shark. Several of
> us
> followed, even though I didn't see the tiger shark. Near the end of
> that
> dive, I was the only diver who was still with Pierre.

And you didn't see the tiger shark. Pierre imagined an 18-foot hammerhead
on our trip. No one saw the hammerhead either. What a surprise.

>> By the end of the trip, Pierre was diving alone.
>
> You're just repeating 2nd or 3rd hand hearsay, Pierre was NEVER diving
> along on my charter. He always had ME with him, and often several
> other
> divers who are not clueless newbies like Greg Mossman was, at that time
> of Greg's beginner-diver status.

Obviously I wasn't on your charter, I was on my charter. On my charter
Pierre was diving alone by the last day since no one wanted to dive with
him. We all preferred to dive with Mike instead.

> I didn't miss anything (except the 18-foot tiger shark on my trip).
> Apataki is
> not the swift drift pass.

We had 5 knots there, so it was swift enough for me and the fifty or so
sharks that were stampeding.

Greg,

Give it up. Bob is incapable of admitting defeat.

He challenged us and when he didn't like our answers he did what he did with
you, he changed the rules.

In our case he called us liars.

When my daughter posted her IQ as 167 which embarrassed this moron, he
repeated it as if she had said 1.67.

Fucking moron.

When I said that I had been admitted to Penn's Wharton School in 1951, this
baboon called me a liar and suggested that my IQ was single digit.

Fucking moron.

Fight your fight, Greg. Bob still insists that he won his IQ challenge with
you and rants that I am a liar when I suggest that he lost.
--
Dick G in Cherry Hill, NJ

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"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1131502918.659098.62590@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>> That is incorrect. Tahiti is the name commonly given (by Americans, at
>>> least) to the islands of French Polynesia,
>>
>> Ah, but people who know the place should know better.
>
> Perhaps that's why I put it in quotes and prefaced it with aka.
>
>> That's not the same! Hawaii is the name of the State of Hawaii. It
>> happens
>> to have an island that is also known as Hawaii, the Big Island.
>
> So what did we call Hawaii before it became a state or territory? Hawaii.
>
>> How about the DMs briefing divers when *I* was on the Tahiti Aggressor
>> several months before you were.
>
> Pierre again? No wonder.
>
>> You heard it from ME, that it was 5-6 knots max, and perhaps the
>> Tahitian
>> Aggressor crew saw my posting too (amidst a flamewar against some
>> Aggressor haters flaming the entire Fleet because of an incidence
>> elsewhere, so much so that a lawsuit against the villants was
>> considered
>> by the Fleet. So, by the time YOU went on the liveaboard, they had
>> revised their briefing to the more realistic estimate -- which was the
>> one
>> *I* gave, in MY trip report.
>
> You're exactly right. The entire crew were avid Reef Fish readers and
> couldn't wait each night to download your latest posts over the sat phone.
>
>> It was you. Nobody in my chartered complained about Pierre except
>> about
>> the fact that they couldn't keep up with Pierre in the swift current.
>> At at
>> 5-knot current, hand-holding by a DM is not possible even if he wanted.
>> Those who can't hack it should have stayed on the boat, and some did.
>
> If they couldn't keep up with him, they obviously didn't know what a waste
> of time it was to keep up with him.
>
>>> When we were on the boat, several of the crew
>>> confided to us that Pierre was forced upon them because they were
>>> required
>>> to have at least one French divemaster aboard, even though Pierre's
>>> former
>>> diving experience was limited to commercial diving and he knew
>>> absolutely
>>> squat about the reefs.
>>
>> If Pierre was no longer part of the crew, why should his name even came
>>
>> up, except for some whiner like Greg Mossman? Dive boat crew members
>> know how to placate clueless whiners -- by telling what THEY like to
>> hear,
>> not that they knew anything about Pierre.
>
> Pierre was part of the crew when the rest of the crew confided in me about
> the reason why they couldn't get rid of him.
>
>> How would YOU know, if you've never dived with Pierre? We were briefed
>> about the 12 knot current (by an American DM) and was told we should
>> NEVER get away from the edge of the pass.
>
> Why would you say I've never dove with Pierre when I dove about 20 dives
> with Pierre?
>
>> As soon as we got into the water, Pierre headed straight toward the
>> middle of the pass because he saw an 18-foot tiger shark. Several of
>> us
>> followed, even though I didn't see the tiger shark. Near the end of
>> that
>> dive, I was the only diver who was still with Pierre.
>
> And you didn't see the tiger shark. Pierre imagined an 18-foot hammerhead
> on our trip. No one saw the hammerhead either. What a surprise.
>
>>> By the end of the trip, Pierre was diving alone.
>>
>> You're just repeating 2nd or 3rd hand hearsay, Pierre was NEVER diving
>> along on my charter. He always had ME with him, and often several
>> other
>> divers who are not clueless newbies like Greg Mossman was, at that time
>> of Greg's beginner-diver status.
>
> Obviously I wasn't on your charter, I was on my charter. On my charter
> Pierre was diving alone by the last day since no one wanted to dive with
> him. We all preferred to dive with Mike instead.
>
>> I didn't miss anything (except the 18-foot tiger shark on my trip).
>> Apataki is
>> not the swift drift pass.
>
> We had 5 knots there, so it was swift enough for me and the fifty or so
> sharks that were stampeding.
>
>

REALLY guys!!! TAKE YOUR PISSIN CONTEST ELSEWHERE, OFFLIST!!!

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1131502918.659098.62590@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> >> That is incorrect. Tahiti is the name commonly given (by Americans, at
> >> least) to the islands of French Polynesia,
> >
> > Ah, but people who know the place should know better.

Americans are well known for their cluelessness in world geography, the

Greg Mossman proved to be no exception.


> > That's not the same! Hawaii is the name of the State of Hawaii. It
> > happens to have an island that is also known as Hawaii, the Big Island.

Apparently that's too much for Greg to understand that his analogy of
Tahiti
to Hawaii was completely flawed.


> > How about the DMs briefing divers when *I* was on the Tahiti Aggressor
> > several months before you were.

That was to answer your clueless question where the "12 knot current"
idea came from.

> Pierre again? No wonder.

The 12-knot current briefing came from the 'Merkin DM, not Pierre. You

should go back and re-read my trip report.


> > You heard it from ME, that it was 5-6 knots max, and perhaps the
> > Tahitian
> > Aggressor crew saw my posting too (amidst a flamewar against some
> > Aggressor haters flaming the entire Fleet because of an incidence
> > elsewhere, so much so that a lawsuit against the villants was
> > considered
> > by the Fleet. So, by the time YOU went on the liveaboard, they had
> > revised their briefing to the more realistic estimate -- which was the
> > one *I* gave, in MY trip report.
>
> You're exactly right. The entire crew were avid Reef Fish readers and
> couldn't wait each night to download your latest posts over the sat phone.

Pretty lame, having been shot down by facts surrounding your
speculation
about the Tahiti Aggressor DMs and Pierre.


> > It was you. Nobody in my chartered complained about Pierre except
> > about the fact that they couldn't keep up with Pierre in the swift current.
> > At 5-knot current, hand-holding by a DM is not possible even if he wanted.
> > Those who can't hack it should have stayed on the boat, and some did.
>
> If they couldn't keep up with him, they obviously didn't know what a waste
> of time it was to keep up with him.

That's what Clueless Newbies say about Cozumel currents too. Remember
Cozumel, where you made your debut only a couple of years ago as the
Anti-Aldora IDIOT?


> >> When we were on the boat, several of the crew
> >> confided to us that Pierre was forced upon them because they were
> >> required
> >> to have at least one French divemaster aboard, even though Pierre's
> >> former
> >> diving experience was limited to commercial diving and he knew absolutely
> >> squat about the reefs.
> >
> > If Pierre was no longer part of the crew, why should his name even came
> > up, except for some whiner like Greg Mossman? Dive boat crew members
> > know how to placate clueless whiners -- by telling what THEY like to
> > hear, not that they knew anything about Pierre.
>
> Pierre was part of the crew when the rest of the crew confided in me about
> the reason why they couldn't get rid of him.

And why should the crew "confide" in Greg Mossman, an obvious newbie in
diving, about a FORMER DM, except whiny Greg brought it up and they
just want to say something Greg liked to hear to get a few more bucks
of
tips from Greg? You must have tipped them at least $5 for the week.
eh?


> > How would YOU know, if you've never dived with Pierre? We were briefed
> > about the 12 knot current (by an American DM) and was told we should
> > NEVER get away from the edge of the pass.
>
> Why would you say I've never dove with Pierre when I dove about 20 dives
> with Pierre?

You were the one who said Pierre was no longer a DM when you were on
the charter. I dived with Pierre in Coco's Island too, but it was a
different
Pierre. There are even more Pierres in the world than Greg, and you
are
sounding more and more like Greg Morrow, Evelyn's (Divamanque)
trolling partner of the "two trolls that pass in the night" fame.

>
> > As soon as we got into the water, Pierre headed straight toward the
> > middle of the pass because he saw an 18-foot tiger shark. Several of
> > us followed, even though I didn't see the tiger shark. Near the end of
> > that dive, I was the only diver who was still with Pierre.
>
> And you didn't see the tiger shark. Pierre imagined an 18-foot hammerhead
> on our trip. No one saw the hammerhead either. What a surprise.

If I didn't see the tiger shark, even though Pierre saw it, it would
have been
the easiest thing for me to lie about having seen it, just like most
scuba
divers lie about their diving experience, like Greg Mossman.

>
> >> By the end of the trip, Pierre was diving alone.
> >
> > You're just repeating 2nd or 3rd hand hearsay, Pierre was NEVER diving
> > along on my charter. He always had ME with him, and often several
> > other divers who are not clueless newbies like Greg Mossman was, at
> > that time of Greg's beginner-diver status.
>
> Obviously I wasn't on your charter, I was on my charter. On my charter
> Pierre was diving alone by the last day since no one wanted to dive with
> him. We all preferred to dive with Mike instead.

You didn't make it clear until now that Pierre was on YOUR charter.
You
kept saying he was no longer a DM by the time you were on the Tahiti
Aggressor, at least several months after I dived with Pierre on it.

>
> > I didn't miss anything (except the 18-foot tiger shark on my trip).
> > Apataki is not the swift drift pass.
>
> We had 5 knots there, so it was swift enough for me and the fifty or so
> sharks that were stampeding.

Big deal. How do you know there weren't 80 or more sharks in my dives
with Pierre? Just another dive with sharks. For someone like you who
couldn't tell a grey reef, from a bullshark, from a lemon, your use of
the
word "stampede" was only symptomatic of your hyperbole of having seen
5 sharks and it was your "BULL", aka "bullshit" that was doing the
stampede.

-- Bob.

"shawn" <shawnabbtt@aol.com> wrote in message
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> REALLY guys!!! TAKE YOUR PISSIN CONTEST ELSEWHERE, OFFLIST!!!

There's no need to shout. This is a civil newsgroup and our "pissin
contest" is extremely on-topic, unlike your rude one-sentence rant.
Debating the merits of diving in French Polynesia and discussing the
attributes of a certain divemaster there couldn't be more on-topic.

In other words, fuck off.

"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131553223.232575.18620@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...

> That's what Clueless Newbies say about Cozumel currents too. Remember
> Cozumel, where you made your debut only a couple of years ago as the
> Anti-Aldora IDIOT?

I stand by my comments. Drift diving means drifting WITH the current, not
AGAINST the current. It's a real easy concept to grasp. Those DMs that
can't grasp it should stick to making coffee. I bet Pierre makes a fine
cafe au lait. I did try one of his hand-rolled cigarettes, but they
unfortunately weren't as good as the ones I've tried back home.

> And why should the crew "confide" in Greg Mossman, an obvious newbie in
> diving, about a FORMER DM, except whiny Greg brought it up and they
> just want to say something Greg liked to hear to get a few more bucks
> of
> tips from Greg? You must have tipped them at least $5 for the week.
> eh?

Probably because he wasn't a former DM and they were getting sick of our
grumbling about him and wanted to distance themselves from our ire.

Isn't $5 what I'm supposed to tip on a liveaboard?

> You were the one who said Pierre was no longer a DM when you were on
> the charter. I dived with Pierre in Coco's Island too, but it was a
> different
> Pierre. There are even more Pierres in the world than Greg, and you
> are
> sounding more and more like Greg Morrow, Evelyn's (Divamanque)
> trolling partner of the "two trolls that pass in the night" fame.

No, I said that Pierre is no longer a DM since we'd been on the boat. He
was the DM on our boat. He is no longer a DM on the boat, from what I've
heard from others. Is that clearer now?

But since your trip was only several months before mine, and your Pierre
sounds just as incompetent as our Pierre, it's safe to say they were the
same person.

> If I didn't see the tiger shark, even though Pierre saw it, it would
> have been
> the easiest thing for me to lie about having seen it, just like most
> scuba
> divers lie about their diving experience, like Greg Mossman.

Really? What lies have I told?

> You didn't make it clear until now that Pierre was on YOUR charter.
> You
> kept saying he was no longer a DM by the time you were on the Tahiti
> Aggressor, at least several months after I dived with Pierre on it.

You should actually read what I said. It's very clear, especially to
someone without ESL issues.

> Big deal. How do you know there weren't 80 or more sharks in my dives
> with Pierre? Just another dive with sharks. For someone like you who
> couldn't tell a grey reef, from a bullshark, from a lemon, your use of
> the
> word "stampede" was only symptomatic of your hyperbole of having seen
> 5 sharks and it was your "BULL", aka "bullshit" that was doing the
> stampede.

Just because all sharks look alike to me doesn't mean I can't count them.

What's really asinine is that you can't even get simple details right, so
either you made up the entire trip or you're very senile.

For instance, when I mentioned the shark stampede at Apataki, you said "> I
didn't miss anything (except the 18-foot tiger shark on my trip). > Apataki
is > not the swift drift pass."

I'll quote it again: "Apataki is not the swift drift pass"

Now I'll quote the latest Aggressor log for Tahiti:

"Day 4 found us waking up in the sleepy pearl farming atoll of Apataki,
where we started off nice and slow with 2 corner dives, fish-holes and
Anchor Point. These are great fish ID sites with Scorpionfish, lionfish,
Schools of beautiful African Pompano, Blue Trevally Horse Eye Jacks,
Emperors and Chevron Barracuda. After a filling Asian Buffet for lunch we
headed out for two adrenaline dives in Tehere Pass, where we found a very
strong current on the first run, about 5 knots, on both dives we saw
hundreds of Grey Reef Sharks,"

What's that? Very strong current, about 5 knots, in Tehere Pass? Hundreds
of Grey Reef Sharks?

Obviously they didn't take you to Tehere Pass on your trip because they
realized you couldn't handle it.

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1131553223.232575.18620@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > That's what Clueless Newbies say about Cozumel currents too. Remember
> > Cozumel, where you made your debut only a couple of years ago as the
> > Anti-Aldora IDIOT?
>
> I stand by my comments.

You can stand, or lie, or sleep on it all you want. This is a free
country.
But you have adequately established your inexperience in scuba diving
and scuba locations.


Wow, I am impressed how quickly you jumped on my reply. You must
have stayed up all night waiting for it. Sorry for keeping you
waiting. I
didn't get up for breakfast till 9:30 am and the ship is not scheduled
to
arrive Grand Cayman till noon.

You have just PROVED what I posted before I saw this latest post of
yours.

Read:

"Why some lawyers and unemployed and unemployable".

You fit the Answers PERFECTLY, Greg.

Congratulations.

-- Bob.