Air New Zealand and Air Qantas ground Handlers at Brisbane Air Port. Did they Still my luggage?

Seems to me it was the Aussies that 'lost' your lugage not air NZ.
Just count your blessings they didn't load it up with drugs for your
onward flight.
Three worst airports in the world for stealing lugae- LA, sydney,
brisbane

>>the other a black 1127 Transit Case made by Underwater Kinetics,
>>dimensions being 27.0 x 18.1 x 10.9 inches also with a DAN Sticker on the side.

Sorry that your vacation got pooched. But you made a big mistake,
never, never, ever travel with luggage that can possibly identity what
may be inside. Instead of a DAN Sticker and an UK case you might as
well have put a big sign on your luggage that said "Steal me - dive
booty inside". All of the manufacturers of dive specific dive travel
bags are boneheads.

I walked up to a guy once at the airport with a spiffy dive travel bag
and just asked him about his dive trip. He looked at me in under stock
when I told him I knew he had been diving just be the bag. I suggested
that he buy a big duffle and stuff that thing in it for his next trip.

Using a big cheap duffle does two things - one make your bags non
descript, two gives it some protection from the "elements" This paid
for itself on a non dive trip when a mule pissed on my bags.

Allen

<unita@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>>>the other a black 1127 Transit Case made by Underwater Kinetics,
>>>dimensions being 27.0 x 18.1 x 10.9 inches also with a DAN Sticker on the
>>>side.
>
> Sorry that your vacation got pooched. But you made a big mistake,
> never, never, ever travel with luggage that can possibly identity what
> may be inside. Instead of a DAN Sticker and an UK case you might as
> well have put a big sign on your luggage that said "Steal me - dive
> booty inside". All of the manufacturers of dive specific dive travel
> bags are boneheads.
>
> I walked up to a guy once at the airport with a spiffy dive travel bag
> and just asked him about his dive trip. He looked at me in under stock
> when I told him I knew he had been diving just be the bag. I suggested
> that he buy a big duffle and stuff that thing in it for his next trip.
>
> Using a big cheap duffle does two things - one make your bags non
> descript, two gives it some protection from the "elements" This paid
> for itself on a non dive trip when a mule pissed on my bags.

Quite frankly, I think that's just bullshit (or mule piss, as may be the
case).

The big giveaway has never been the baggage, but rather the flight tag. The
professional thieves who work the bags for various airlines know what they
are doing. They're pretty good at solving itineraries, sorting out which
flights may have what they desire, and catching on to the slick "packaging"
maneuvers travelers think will save them.

There's no fooling these people. They see, pickup, handle and manage bags
all day everyday. They've got damn good knowledge of what flights will have
what type of gear and what kind and size of bags the travelers are trying to
hide things in.

When we check bags we are trusting them to the honesty of the workers, or
lacking that, the integrity of the airlines oversight policies. Your gear is
no safer from theft in a cooler with duct tape or in a cheap duffle, than it
is in a US Divers scuba bag or 1620 pelican case with fluorescent paint
saying "Expensive Photo Gear Inside This Bag".

The best way to secure your checked bags is to avoid airports with bad
histories.....DCE at Curacao (in the old days it was ALM at Curacao), Qantas
at Brisbane, Air France at Madrid (or actually anyone anywhere in Spain at
all :^), SAETA at Guayquil (when they were flying), US Air in Philly (which
covers an awful lot of flights) etc.

I would agree that the pros behind the scenes are the major problem for
air travel. But also using non descirpt bags is not just for in the air
travel but for all travel. There are thieves at all stages. So the more
you can do to not advertise what you have in your bags the better.

Allen

<unita@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>I would agree that the pros behind the scenes are the major problem for
> air travel. But also using non descirpt bags is not just for in the air
> travel but for all travel. There are thieves at all stages. So the more
> you can do to not advertise what you have in your bags the better.

I can only speak for myself, but when traveling, the airlines are about the
only time I let any of my baggage out of my hand or sight. I'm not
particularly anal about it, but I do tend to keep everything hand touch
close except when checked into an airline. And I do that for more reasons
than just theft. I just don't want people having easy access to anything I
will be carrying or checking later on.

Don't get me wrong. It's not that I think there is something wrong with
using an old duffle, it's just that I don't think there is anything
particularly helpful about it.

Well the Air quatus personnel at counter said he would call the for the
transfer he had the tickets and the description of the luggage only one of
two arrived in Png.
Every were i go i tell the story and i ask people the same thing: would fly
Air New Zealand they were so insensitive especially in Australia and new
Zealand.

i tell people to fly air Korea, Singapore, Cathay Pacific there the best.

Have you hear the story told by an Air New Zealand cabin worker the gist of
it was this:
Passenger waiting for a air craft from air Singapore but it did not arrive
due to engine problem the replacement was Air New Zealand because of the
Alliance. Well the Passenger Saw the plane and started to boohoos the Air
New
Zealand they said the plane are like riding a plane ten years behind the
time. no word on whether there luggage arrived safely or at all with the
passengers!

Air New Zealand lost my luggage in Brisbane and ruined my dream holiday that
took two years of saving and planning for.



I booked a ticket with Air New Zealand for a flight on September 7, 2004. I
traveled with two pieces of luggage, one a roll-on 51-liter knapsack type
and the other a black 1127 Transit Case made by Underwater Kinetics,
dimensions being 27.0 x 18.1 x 10.9 inches also with a DAN Sticker on the
side.

I checked my luggage upon arrival at Pearson Airport with the understanding
that I would not have to retrieve it until Brisbane.



Upon my arrival at Los Angeles Air Port, I went to the Air Canada counter to
inquire about my luggage.

The person behind the counter stated that Air Canada should have the luggage
with them awaiting transfer to my air new Zealand flight.



Again, I trusted both airlines to have the luggage and to transfer it
safely.



After arriving in Auckland, New Zealand, there was a four-hour overlay and
the same plane was refueled and we continued on to Brisbane.



When I got to Brisbane, Security did not allow me to retrieve my luggage.
Instead, they informed me that I could ask at the Air New Zealand counter
upstairs for them to retrieve and transfer it for me.



I went to the Air New Zealand counter and I was assured by the clerk that
radioed down to the baggage handlers working on the baggage carrousel that
both pieces of luggage were identified and located, and they would be
transferred to the Air Niugini flight to Port Moresby, my final destination.



During all this time I never physically saw my luggage, believing all was
well.



After landing in Port Moresby, to my shock and horror, I learned that only
one piece of my luggage containing my clothing had arrived and other the
largest and most essential containing my diving was equipment is missing.



I immediately filed a lost luggage report with Luggage Personnel at Port
Moresby.

He told me he would look for it and needed my itinerary. However, I later
learned the search was suspended the very same day. It is still suspended to
this day. In spite of, my travel agent repeatedly asking for it to be
reopened.



This may just be another case of lost luggage to you however; it is a
devastating loss of equipment that was crucial to fulfilling my trip
requirement. A trip I saved and planned for two years.





As a result, I was unable to do what I came and paid to do, which was to
dive.





I spent 10 days on a boat with 18 other people who all got their luggage. I
physically became ill from the stress and worry of my luggage being lost or
perhaps even stolen.



I trusted the airlines concerned to carry me and my luggage to my point of
destination.

It is a mystery to me that my small piece of luggage arrived but not the
largest and most important piece.



I want to be reimbursed and compensated for my total cost of airfare and
loss of underwater kinetics 1127 transit case and all of its contents that
was entrusted to you Air New Zealand Air Niugini.



"dont fly air new zealand they loose luggage in Brisbane australia"
<cali233@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Well the Air quatus personnel at counter said he would call the for the
> transfer he had the tickets and the description of the luggage only one of
> two arrived in Png.
> Every were i go i tell the story and i ask people the same thing: would
> fly
> Air New Zealand they were so insensitive especially in Australia and new
> Zealand.
>
> i tell people to fly air Korea, Singapore, Cathay Pacific there the best.
>
> Have you hear the story told by an Air New Zealand cabin worker the gist
> of
> it was this:
> Passenger waiting for a air craft from air Singapore but it did not arrive
> due to engine problem the replacement was Air New Zealand because of the
> Alliance. Well the Passenger Saw the plane and started to boohoos the Air
> New
> Zealand they said the plane are like riding a plane ten years behind the
> time. no word on whether there luggage arrived safely or at all with the
> passengers!
>

"dont fly air new zealand they loose luggage in Brisbane australia"
<cali233@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Air New Zealand lost my luggage in Brisbane and ruined my dream holiday
> that took two years of saving and planning for.

Missing luggage happens. Smart travelers ensure that such an event won't
ruin their "dream holiday".

> I booked a ticket with Air New Zealand for a flight on September 7, 2004.
> I traveled with two pieces of luggage, one a roll-on 51-liter knapsack
> type and the other a black 1127 Transit Case made by Underwater Kinetics,
> dimensions being 27.0 x 18.1 x 10.9 inches also with a DAN Sticker on the

> Upon my arrival at Los Angeles Air Port, I went to the Air Canada counter
> to inquire about my luggage.

Why Air Canada? I thought you were bitching about Air New Zealand.

> The person behind the counter stated that Air Canada should have the
> luggage with them awaiting transfer to my air new Zealand flight.

So Air Canada lost the luggage. Why not bitch about Air Canada?

> When I got to Brisbane, Security did not allow me to retrieve my luggage.
> Instead, they informed me that I could ask at the Air New Zealand counter
> upstairs for them to retrieve and transfer it for me.

So Security lost the luggage. Why not bitch about Security?

> I went to the Air New Zealand counter and I was assured by the clerk that
> radioed down to the baggage handlers working on the baggage carrousel that
> both pieces of luggage were identified and located, and they would be
> transferred to the Air Niugini flight to Port Moresby, my final
> destination.

So the baggage handlers, who may not even work for the airline, lost the
luggage. Why not bitch about the baggage handlers?

> After landing in Port Moresby, to my shock and horror, I learned that only
> one piece of my luggage containing my clothing had arrived and other the
> largest and most essential containing my diving was equipment is missing.

One out of two ain't bad. At least you didn't have to go naked.

> He told me he would look for it and needed my itinerary. However, I later
> learned the search was suspended the very same day. It is still suspended
> to this day. In spite of, my travel agent repeatedly asking for it to be
> reopened.

Never trust a travel agent. Why don't you deal with it yourself, or else
blame your travel agent for everything and bitch about her?

> This may just be another case of lost luggage to you however; it is a
> devastating loss of equipment that was crucial to fulfilling my trip
> requirement. A trip I saved and planned for two years.

Have you ever heard of rental gear?

> As a result, I was unable to do what I came and paid to do, which was to
> dive.

Have you ever heard of rental gear?

> I spent 10 days on a boat with 18 other people who all got their luggage.
> I physically became ill from the stress and worry of my luggage being lost
> or perhaps even stolen.

Becoming physically ill about lost luggage? That's silly. If you were so
worried about it, you would have insured it.

> It is a mystery to me that my small piece of luggage arrived but not the
> largest and most important piece.

You mean the one in the fancy case that advertised "expensive dive gear
inside". Yeah, it's a mystery. To an idiot.

> I want to be reimbursed and compensated for my total cost of airfare and
> loss of underwater kinetics 1127 transit case and all of its contents that
> was entrusted to you Air New Zealand Air Niugini.

Total cost of airfare? They brought you to your destination and brought you
back home. Don't be silly. I'd be happy if I got reimbursed for my rental
gear.

And I thought you entrusted your luggage to Air Canada? Please make up your
mind.

I believe, according to the fine print on the ticket you purchased, and as
I'm sure your knowledgeable and capable travel agent made you aware, the
airline is limited in its liability to you for something like a few cents
per pound of luggage. So you should definitely receive some compensation.
Obviously had you insured the stuff, you'd have a right to be reimbursed the
value of the equipment. Everyone knows that. Are you as stupid as you
sound?

"dont fly air new zealand they loose luggage in Brisbane australia"
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> i tell people to fly air Korea, Singapore, Cathay Pacific there the best.

Singapore Air is a great airline, but using it for Australia can be
problematic. I am booked on SA for a 2006 PNG trip, but the booking goes LAX
>SIN > BNE > POM. That's a long flight and a couple stayovers. I have the
time so I can enjoy Singapore and waste an overnight in Brisbane, but for
people who want to go to PNG quickly, using SA means trying to get an Air
Nuguini flight from SIN to POM. And because AN only issues schedules every 6
months, right now no one knows what the flights will be after October 28,
2005 and cannot book yet.

In my case I will suffer it because I am in 1st Class on miles, but if I was
paying for this flight I would probably opt for either Continental through
Guam and Cairns or Qantas through Sidney and Cairns (both have much cleaner
connection times resulting in no stayovers). Singapore Air makes for a long
flight to PNG.

Seems to me it was the Aussies that 'lost' your lugage not air NZ.
Just count your blessings they didn't load it up with drugs for your
onward flight.
Three worst airports in the world for stealing lugae- LA, sydney,
brisbane