Borneo vs. Palau

I have been to both places and would return to Sipidan before Palau. We saw
many more fish in Sipidan.

I've dived both Palau and Sepidan....Palau is justly famous as the diving
destination with the greatest u/w vis in the world some 300 feet, or 100 meters
is the norm at Peleliu (sp?) which is a long steam out there.

On the other hand, Sepidan is often cloudy and I've been told this by countless
other divers who've been there at different times. It certainly was when I was
there. The dive people were blaming it on Mt. Pinatubu in the Philippines that
was erupting at the time..but I'm told that they always come forward with some
excuse or another.

chilly wrote:

> <mrg@att.net> wrote in message
> news:1140912697.553460.48580@t39g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com...
> > Sipidan area
>
> :^) Yes, I understood that.
>
> First thing you need to understand is that you can no longer stay on
> Sipadan.
>
> Therefore, you are more likely going to be staying on Mabul, but perhaps
> Kapalai?
>
> It will be easier to answer your question about the snorkelling if you tell
> us where you plan to stay and which resort.
>
> > chilly wrote:
> > > <mrg@att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:1140878917.420126.288280@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > What is the difference in visibility, diversity and ability to snorkel
> > > > between Sipidan area in Borneo and Palau? We found that Palau was
> great
> > > > on all three counts, you could see a great deal without even diving.
> > > > >From the little I have been able to find, the visibility in Borneo
> > > > might be less? I ask about snorkling because one of us doesn't dive
> and
> > > > would like to still be able to see something.
> > >
> > > First, where do you plan to stay?
> >

In article <1140878917.420126.288280@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
mrg@att.net () wrote:

> *From:* mrg@att.net
> *Date:* 25 Feb 2006 06:48:37 -0800
>
> What is the difference in visibility, diversity and ability to snorkel
> between Sipidan area in Borneo and Palau? We found that Palau was great
> on all three counts, you could see a great deal without even diving.
> >From the little I have been able to find, the visibility in Borneo
> might be less? I ask about snorkling because one of us doesn't dive and
> would like to still be able to see something.
>
> MG
>

As "Chilly" says......you need to decide where your going to
stay.....Sipadan is out, but there is good snorkling to be had there if
your partner goes with you to dive there......
You would either stay on Mabul, there is a beach on Mabul so snorkling
would be ok there......and on Kapalai, the place is on stilts.....you
would get snorkling there also, good vis on kapalai, but also poor vis on
occasions....get your partner diving is my recomendation.....you could
always stay on my favourite place...."Seaventures" dive platform.....no
snorkling from there but......who cares, the diving underneath is the
best.....

www.seatreker.com
Dave Morgan @ Work in the UK

<morgand@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8oCdnYrXd_YsKp_ZRVnygQ@pipex.net...
> In article <1140878917.420126.288280@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> mrg@att.net () wrote:
>
> As "Chilly" says......you need to decide where your going to
> stay.....Sipadan is out, but there is good snorkling to be had there if
> your partner goes with you to dive there......

I'll second that!! Especially around 4:30 pm when the bumphead parrots head
for the dropoff. Wow!! What a rush.

> You would either stay on Mabul, there is a beach on Mabul so snorkling
> would be ok there......

I'm not so sure about that, but maybe over at Sipadan Water Village (which
is actually located on Mabul) it would be OK. But I sure wouldn't try to
get a snorkeller too excited about it.

>and on Kapalai, the place is on stilts.....you
> would get snorkling there also, good vis on kapalai, but also poor vis on
> occasions....get your partner diving is my recomendation.....you could
> always stay on my favourite place...."Seaventures" dive platform.....no
> snorkling from there but......who cares, the diving underneath is the
> best.....
>
> www.seatreker.com
> Dave Morgan @ Work in the UK

In article <lSyMf.76118$B94.60805@pd7tw3no>, slarson@shaw.canada (chilly)
wrote:

>
> I'll second that!! Especially around 4:30 pm when the bumphead parrots
> head
> for the dropoff. Wow!! What a rush.

For anyone that does'nt know what a Bumphead looks like, there is a photo
on this link......they are B.I.G. fish....
http://www.seatreker.com/Sipadan.htm

www.seatreker.com
Dave Morgan @ Work in the UK

chilly wrote:
> First, where do you plan to stay?

Second, how'd you fly there? Through Manila?

"Whistler" <whiNstOler@sSan.rPr.cAomM> wrote in message
news:7PbNf.3334$8l2.1000@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> chilly wrote:
> > First, where do you plan to stay?
>
> Second, how'd you fly there? Through Manila?

Um, on a plane?

In article <7PbNf.3334$8l2.1000@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
whiNstOler@sSan.rPr.cAomM (Whistler) wrote:

> *From:* Whistler <whiNstOler@sSan.rPr.cAomM>
> *Date:* Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:12:03 GMT
>
> chilly wrote:
> > First, where do you plan to stay?
>
> Second, how'd you fly there? Through Manila?

And where's your starting point.....

www.seatreker.com
Dave Morgan @ Work in the UK

Lee Bell wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1141315975.733638.122950@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > bob crownfield wrote, in the entirety of his post:
> >>
> >> and a second point to chilly!
> >>
> >
> > What piqued my interest to read Bob Crownfield's post in the
> > most unlikely subject that he could possibly have anything scuba-
> > related to say, since Bob Crownfield has NOT had anything
> > scuba related to post in any forum since the beginning of this
> >
> > millennium
> >
> > and it is a virtue certainty that Bob Crownfield has not done a
> > single dive during this millennium (because I have given him
> > at least a dozen opportunity to say that I was WRONG, because
> > he had done ONE dive, on such a such date, at some dive site).
> >
> > Bob has specialized in making a nuisance of himself, in ALL
> > of the scuba forums, since the mid 1990s.
> >
> > Bob Crownfield, of the 10s of thousands of newsgroups,
> > couldn't you find one or two that are NOT scuba forums, to
> > be your sandbox playground?
> >
> > Clearly, the SUBSTANCE of your posts has absolutely,
> > positively, NOTHING to do with anything SCUBA related.
> >
> > Just a plea, on behalf of myself, and all those folks in
> > rec.scuba.locations who would rather discuss something
> > that have to do with scuba locations!
> >
> > BTW, there is no need for you to edit a few words out of
> > my post, completely out of context and void of context,
> > just to display your modus operandi of NOISE making.
>
> Did I miss it? Is there something about scuba locations in your post? Is
> your post what you mean by NOISE making?
>
> Lee

Yes Lee. You missed the SUBSTANCE of my entire post, and
especially this paragraph:

RF> Just a plea, on behalf of myself, and all those folks in
RF> rec.scuba.locations who would rather discuss something
RF> that have to do with scuba locations!

Folks, there is a Festival ongoing right NOW, in Scuba-SE
(all you have to do is to subscribe to it via:

http://raven.utc.edu/archives/scuba-SE.html

in which Lee Bell appears to be the subject/star of SPANKING,
by members of that group, in the new thread which was carried
over from Lee Bell's patented Mouth Dancing in the "A day for
visitors thread":

Edukashun (Was: Re: A day for visitors)

and this is how Lee shot his own foot in the latest exhibit:

As Lee put it so succinctly to Strike,

Lee> I've never been much of a spectator. If I can't do
Lee> it myself, I'm not particularly interested in watching,
Lee> or hearing, about others that can.

RF> That pretty much is a TRUE CONFESSION of WHY Lee Bell is so
RF> ignorant about so many scuba facts, priniciples, and physical
RF> and scientific Laws!

Not to mention Lee's inexperience and ignorance about DIVE LOCATIONS
outside of Florida!

RF> A dive report or two by you Lee, is a good start, to get you
RF> away from your incessant ARGUING, on empty.

RF> But, you'll be the same old Lee Bell unless you can CHANGE
RF> your attitude and modus operadi, as evidence in your own words:

Lee> I've never been much of a spectator. If I can't do
Lee> it myself, I'm not particularly interested in watching,
Lee> or hearing, about others that can.

It'll do you MUCH GOOD if you'll watch, hear, and keep your
mouth SHUT for a change, Lee!

BTW, why are you HERE, posting your vacuous post of my post
about Bob Crownfield, while MY POST, excerpted above is
waiting for your response in Scuba-SE? ) So are other
posts to which you have NOT responded, such as:


On posting dive reports,

Lee> Remind me if I forget.

ML> You would not need reminding if you changed your modus operandi...
ML> rather than focussing on responses that argue with others why not
focus
ML> on posts that share your diving experiences???

ML> Then you would not need reminding as it would be common practice
to post
ML> about your diving experiences, thus making this place more
interesting
ML> and possibly more educational for others and yourself.

Those comments certainly apply to Lee Bell 100% in rec.scuba.locations
as well!

-- Bob.

>> Did I miss it? Is there something about scuba locations in your post?
>> Is
>> your post what you mean by NOISE making?

> Yes Lee. You missed the SUBSTANCE of my entire post, and
> especially this paragraph:

> RF> Just a plea, on behalf of myself, and all those folks in
> RF> rec.scuba.locations who would rather discuss something
> RF> that have to do with scuba locations!

Nothing relating to locations there. Sorry, but your entire post was
nothing more than another one of your attacks on someone else. That's known
as the Pot calling the Kettle black.

Yes, I know I'm doing the same thing, but I'm not the one complaining.

BTW you have not been appointed as the spokesperson for rec.scuba.locations

> As Lee put it so succinctly to Strike,

> Lee> I've never been much of a spectator. If I can't do
> Lee> it myself, I'm not particularly interested in watching,
> Lee> or hearing, about others that can.

I thought you were asked to leave Strike out of your rants in other forums.
Forget again, did you?

Lee