Re: CDNN News: Eco crime? Cancun amusement park buys 33 dolphinsfromSolomon Islanders

jer wrote:
>
> H. Huntzinger wrote:
> > In article <3F231C96.8050907@airmail.ten>, jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Paul wrote:
> >>
> >>>So, How do we go about freeing these creatures? Obviously the law doesn't
> >>>work. Any suggestions please?
> >>
> >>
> >>I'd love to outline how this could be done, but someone within sight
> >>of this post may rat out any plan I could concoct on such short
> >>notice.
> >
> >
> >
> > This dolphin amusement park is intended to increase tourism revenue, so
> > the strongest message you can send is that its going to backfire
> > economically.
> >
> > For example, you can start a "Divers Boycott Cozumel/Cancun in December"
> > campaign.
> >
> > I include Cozumel as well as every other part of Mexico because the
> > dolphin import was approved by the President of Mexico. Find his
> > address and write him, telling him that you're not going to be spending
> > your tourist dollars in Mexico, and that you're boycotting all known
> > services and exports of his country.
> >
> > As a consumer, there's nothing illegal about voting with your wallet.
> >
> >
> >
> > BTW, Grand Cayman is thinking about starting a dolphin park in the next
> > few years...best way to stop that one is to make a strong statement now
> > against this one, and make your opposition evident in altered revenues.
> >
> >
> >
> > -hh
>
> Well, gee whillikers, Mr. HH - if I voted with my wallet against
> everything that way, I'd never spend a dime anywhere. I'm unaware of
> a square inch on this whole planet that suits me completely. Besides,
> it's a little late to be witholding my money from Mexico, I've already
> done that in the U.S. Somehow you seem to have gotten the wrong
> impression - I don't run a democracy - I run things the same way they
> do - in your face and/or up your ass. I'm not an American so I'm not
> gonna sit around hoping their mood changes, I'm gonna change it myself.
>
> Let's assume you're the kissy-kissy dolphin proprietor... I'm gonna
> get in your face and tell what I think about it. I'm gonna stand
> around insulting every other client that even looks like they're gonna
> drag their money inside your gate. I'm gonna make these people feel
> like idiots for even thinking nice thoughts about you. I'm gonna make
> you sorry you ever met a nutcase like me. And you know why? 'cause
> if you don't give a shit - here's a clue - I don't either. I don't
> like what you're doingand I'm not about to be nice about it. I'm
> intend to be the bitch your mother warned you about. And while you're
> standing around looking at me, you won't be looking around behind your
> back.
>
> The Mexican government didn't necessarily say they approved anything,
> they said couldn't see anything wrong with it, (which I'll admit
> amounts to tacit approval). It also tells me they're dumb as a stump
> because practically everyone else does. In my camp, you lose points
> for being an idiot, and more if that idiocy hurts my friends. Since I
> don't see anything wrong with whatever we dream up, I suppose I'll
> offer tacit approval for that too.

Mexican jails really suck. Be sure to write.


>
> Nah, sorry HH, that dog of yours don't hunt around here.
>
> Grand Cayman? yeah, been there, maybe it'll be time for a return trip
> during my next bad mood. Which president screwed that up?
>
> --
> jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
> "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
> what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

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Doc _(:)0

"I'm hiding in Honduras, I'm a desperate man,
Send Lawyers, Guns & Money...The sh*t has hit the fan"
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Robert "Doc" Adelman wrote:
>

>
> Mexican jails really suck. Be sure to write.


Jail scares me a lot less than sitting around whining about not having
the guts to do something. The way I see it, it's a lot easier to get
forgiveness than permission, and I generally sleep pretty good, even
if the cot is a little lumpy.

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jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

T wrote:

> jer wrote:
>
>> Robert "Doc" Adelman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Mexican jails really suck. Be sure to write.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jail scares me a lot less than sitting around whining about not having
>> the guts to do something. The way I see it, it's a lot easier to get
>> forgiveness than permission, and I generally sleep pretty good, even
>> if the cot is a little lumpy.
>>
> thanks for turning your return receipts off!
>


Oh Gawd, was that happening here too? I learned of this anamoly only
a few short hours ago from another source - my profuse apologies. I
didn't realise that was occuring, but did find where that option had
been imposed and turned it off.

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jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

Robert \"Doc\" Adelman <lawyers-guns-money@att.net> wrote:

> jer <gdunn@airmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > H. Huntzinger wrote:
> > > As a consumer, there's nothing illegal about voting with your wallet.
> >
> > Well, gee whillikers, Mr. HH - if I voted with my wallet against
> > everything that way, I'd never spend a dime anywhere...
> > I'm not an American so I'm not gonna sit around hoping their
> > mood changes, I'm gonna change it myself.

Jer, that's always ones' perogative. And even if money isn't a
motivator for someone like Jer, a lot of people in this world are highly
motivated by money, and can thus be influenced. I'm not saying that
that's a good or bad thing - - just pointing out what is reality.


> > Let's assume you're the kissy-kissy dolphin proprietor... I'm gonna
> > get in your face and tell what I think about it. I'm gonna stand
> > around insulting every other client that even looks like they're gonna
> > drag their money inside your gate...
>
> Mexican jails really suck. Be sure to write.

That's right, Doc. That's why I suggested _legal_ activities. But if
little old Jer here insists on doing it the hard (and in Mexico,
sometimes fatal) way, that his perogative.

If Jer's actually going to follow through (which I personally doubt), I
do suggest that he find out before he leaves home which is the best
Embassy for an english-speaking traveller to contact for help.


> > Grand Cayman? yeah, been there, maybe it'll be time for a return trip
> > during my next bad mood. Which president screwed that up?

Guess Jer forgot that the Caymans don't have a president . And for
events there, www.CaymanNetNews.com is a good news/editorial source.


-hh

jer wrote:
> Robert "Doc" Adelman wrote:
>
>>
>
>>
>> Mexican jails really suck. Be sure to write.
>
>
>
> Jail scares me a lot less than sitting around whining about not having
> the guts to do something. The way I see it, it's a lot easier to get
> forgiveness than permission, and I generally sleep pretty good, even if
> the cot is a little lumpy.
>
thanks for turning your return receipts off!

H. Huntzinger wrote:


>
> Jer, that's always ones' perogative. And even if money isn't a
> motivator for someone like Jer, a lot of people in this world are highly
> motivated by money, and can thus be influenced. I'm not saying that
> that's a good or bad thing - - just pointing out what is reality.

Yes, it is a reality, either a blessing or a curse - which is
something I get to decide, not them.


>>>Let's assume you're the kissy-kissy dolphin proprietor... I'm gonna
>>>get in your face and tell what I think about it. I'm gonna stand
>>>around insulting every other client that even looks like they're gonna
>>>drag their money inside your gate...
>>
>> Mexican jails really suck. Be sure to write.
>
>
> That's right, Doc. That's why I suggested _legal_ activities. But if
> little old Jer here insists on doing it the hard (and in Mexico,
> sometimes fatal) way, that his perogative.

Yes, that's another reality, one which I'm willing to accept. Look at
it this way, that acceptance has turned out to be a blessing on more
than one occasion, since most people assume I'm not willing to risk
everything for something I strongly believe in. Yes, a blessing for
me, a curse for them.

>
> If Jer's actually going to follow through (which I personally doubt), I
> do suggest that he find out before he leaves home which is the best
> Embassy for an english-speaking traveller to contact for help.

This comment carries the assumption the we aren't prepared (yes, we).
Assuming we aren't prepared is another cross some have to bear.



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"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur