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| Alan, Sorry I thought I had just replied to the scuba.locations news group, although I suppose the other rec.travels etc would mind as I'm sure they are also quite annoyed with inappropriate messages. Now about repeating it 4 times....Well that's news to me. Only the one appears on my list, but if there are 3 others on everyone else's, then I apologise. It was an accident. About top posting, that is a touchy subject, some people say it's the correct thing to do as it then cuts the need to wade through reams and reams (multi answers) of previous messages that may be appropriate. Others, seemingly like yourself, prefer the bottom post. Either way is acceptable and the message that is being answered should always be left intact and included in the reply. It's just that this and a host of other newsgroups are being swamped with irrelevant or pornographic material. And if we just sit here and say nothing, then who's to blame. Them for sending it or us for saying nothing about it and letting it happen. As for Usenet etiquette, well I must admit, I know a fair bit about it, but then no one knows everything about it and each rule has it's own followers. William. Alan Street wrote: > In article <0jM1d.12027$0h7.937197@news20.bellglobal.com>, William > MacDouglas < MacDouglas"@canada.com> wrote: > > € It seems obvious that your grasp of the English language is severely > € limited by your low intelligence. As I have stated before, kindly keep > € your inter tribal squabbles to yourself. This newsgroup is about scuba > € diving locations, and has nothing whatsoever to do with your petty > € tribal arguments. Understood. And if you can't comprehend this, then may > € I suggest that you employ the services of a translator, or failing that > € see your local surgeon about a lobotomy. > € William. > € > > I'm not sure which is worse - his rantings, or your response, repeated > four times, cross-posted to five other newsgroups and top posted while > keeping his entire 1500 word message intact. If you're going to yell at > somebody about proper Usenet etiquette, you ought to learn something > about it yourself first. |
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| In article <SPN1d.12424$0h7.980853@news20.bellglobal.com>, William MacDouglas < MacDouglas"@canada.com> wrote: € Alan, € Sorry I thought I had just replied to the scuba.locations news € group, although I suppose the other rec.travels etc would mind as I'm € sure they are also quite annoyed with inappropriate messages. Now about € repeating it 4 times....Well that's news to me. Only the one appears on € my list, but if there are 3 others on everyone else's, then I apologise. € It was an accident. € About top posting, that is a touchy subject, some people say it's € the correct thing to do as it then cuts the need to wade through reams € and reams (multi answers) of previous messages that may be appropriate. € Others, seemingly like yourself, prefer the bottom post. Either way is € acceptable and the message that is being answered should always be left € intact and included in the reply. € It's just that this and a host of other newsgroups are being swamped € with irrelevant or pornographic material. And if we just sit here and € say nothing, then who's to blame. Them for sending it or us for saying € nothing about it and letting it happen. € As for Usenet etiquette, well I must admit, I know a fair bit about € it, but then no one knows everything about it and each rule has it's own € followers. € William. € € Well, some rules, like top posting, are somewhat open to personal preference (although I still think it makes sense to bottom post in Usenet - e-mail is another issue), but repeated posting and widespread cross-posting are pretty much no-nos in everyone's book. And yes, it's usually proper to quote the original post, but even that can be trimmed when appropriate, and in the case of a 1500 word rant, it's certainly appropriate to trim 99% of the original post. As for responding, I personally believe it's better to ignore the trolls instead of letting they know their drivel is even worth a cursory glance. They thrive on attention, no matter how negative or slight. If they don't get any attention, they usually seek out more productive playgrounds. And just to keep this somewhat on-topic, where in Canada do you dive? Alan |
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| On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:47:56 -0400, "William MacDouglas" <"William MacDouglas"@canada.com> wrote: >It seems obvious that your grasp of the English language is severely >limited by your low intelligence. As I have stated before, kindly keep >your inter tribal squabbles to yourself. This newsgroup is about scuba >diving locations, and has nothing whatsoever to do with your petty >tribal arguments. Understood. And if you can't comprehend this, then may >I suggest that you employ the services of a translator, or failing that >see your local surgeon about a lobotomy. >William. > They've been crossposting for several years. Requests to stop have done nothing in the past. Killfile them and move on with your life because all you're doing by responding to them is annoying other people who've killfiled the original poster. |
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| Alan Street wrote: > In article <SPN1d.12424$0h7.980853@news20.bellglobal.com>, William > MacDouglas < MacDouglas"@canada.com> wrote: > > € Alan, > € Sorry I thought I had just replied to the scuba.locations news > € group, although I suppose the other rec.travels etc would mind as I'm > € sure they are also quite annoyed with inappropriate messages. Now about > € repeating it 4 times....Well that's news to me. Only the one appears on > € my list, but if there are 3 others on everyone else's, then I apologise. > € It was an accident. > € About top posting, that is a touchy subject, some people say it's > € the correct thing to do as it then cuts the need to wade through reams > € and reams (multi answers) of previous messages that may be appropriate. > € Others, seemingly like yourself, prefer the bottom post. Either way is > € acceptable and the message that is being answered should always be left > € intact and included in the reply. > € It's just that this and a host of other newsgroups are being swamped > € with irrelevant or pornographic material. And if we just sit here and > € say nothing, then who's to blame. Them for sending it or us for saying > € nothing about it and letting it happen. > € As for Usenet etiquette, well I must admit, I know a fair bit about > € it, but then no one knows everything about it and each rule has it's own > € followers. > € William. > € > € > > Well, some rules, like top posting, are somewhat open to personal > preference (although I still think it makes sense to bottom post in > Usenet - e-mail is another issue), but repeated posting and widespread > cross-posting are pretty much no-nos in everyone's book. And yes, it's > usually proper to quote the original post, but even that can be trimmed > when appropriate, and in the case of a 1500 word rant, it's certainly > appropriate to trim 99% of the original post. > > As for responding, I personally believe it's better to ignore the > trolls instead of letting they know their drivel is even worth a > cursory glance. They thrive on attention, no matter how negative or > slight. If they don't get any attention, they usually seek out more > productive playgrounds. > > And just to keep this somewhat on-topic, where in Canada do you dive? > > Alan Thanks for the tips and advice, they shall be heeded. On occasions I dive in Lake Eire, which being shallow is warmish (for Canada), but has an amazing number of wrecks. Also dive Fenlon Falls, a bit colder but the water is amazingly crystal clear. On occasions visit friends in Rhode Island and Mass and we dive around Cape Cod etc. But I usually dive 3 or 4 times a year in the Carib, Belize, Roatan, Panama, Colombia. Found the Costa Rican water to be usually to murky and Cuba to be fairly devoid of fish (all eaten by the locals I presume) and the dive operators to be unprofessional at times. The great barrier reef in Oz was brilliant, but a bit too far for regular trips. All in all I do prefer the warmer climates. But, if global warming continues, hey it might just be worth doing all my dives here. Ha ha ha. William. |
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