Mozilla Thunderbird for newsgroup access?

Thus spake John Mason Jr <notvalid@cox.net.invalid> :

>Dillon Pyron wrote:
>> Thus spake Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> :
>>
>>
>>>In article <ch8601ldlfr5v0j2ai6in8agc7s9l46m50@4ax.com>, Dillon Pyron
>>><dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>€ Thus spake Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> :
>>>€
>>>€
>>>€ >€ He's using AOL. That's Windows for dummies.
>>>€ >
>>>€ >I knew he was on AOL and I imagine that 99.999% of their customers use
>>>€ >some form of Windows. I tried it once with their Macintosh client, and
>>>€ >had the unusual experience of seeing my OC3 run as slow as a dial-up
>>>€ >connection. Good thing it was a free trial.
>>>€
>>>€ I'll bet they were just having trouble getting a dial tone.
>>>€
>>>€ OC3, huh? I just speed tested my cable modem at 3.3Mb.
>>>
>>>At home, I'm about 2.5Mb, which is fast enough for almost anything work
>>>throws at me. At work, the fastest I've seen is 14Mb, but at those
>>>speeds, the limiter is usually the speed test (our Internet connection
>>>is actually wider than an OC3, but my building connects to the network
>>>building via OC3).
>>>
>>>€
>>>€ And for an extra $35 a month, I could get a guaranteed 6 up, 1.5 down.
>>>€
>>>
>>>Throw in a static IP address and that would be a pretty good deal.
>>
>>
>> That comes with "Business Class", which is like $55 a month over
>> standard. The $35 a month is the "Gamer" offering. With Business
>> class, you also get to have a web server and email server on your
>> connection, not that that actually stops anyone. If they did block
>> it, spam would go down significantly.
>>
>> I just wish RR would adopt SPF.
>>
>
>SPF is not ready for wide distribution as it breaks many existing useful
>things . Example if I am at work and send an email from my cox.net
>account I use a smtp relay that is nowhere near cox.net IP range.
>
>Without widespread deployment of authenticated relaying it is doomed to
>fail and that is not even dealing with forwarding issues and mailing lists.

Yeah, Po says that's the biggest problem, he's working on it but
doesn't think something will happen for a while.

I've also heard of some ISPs using "message deferal". The receiving
SMTP server sends a "deferal" to the sender. The sender says "okay"
and retransmits. If the sender is a zombie, they don't have the
smarts to retransmit, assuming the IP given isn't forged (which most
are).

Problem with this is that it double the traffic (more than doubles,
actually). Which spam is doing already.

>
>
>
>John

--
dillon

"When the French are against it, you know we can't
be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman

Dillon,

I'm trying to access Google through Thunderbird, but I'm unable to
make it work so far. I think I'm having problems with the server name /
port number.

Ted

In article <1108489364.761790.299380@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>,
SCUBA9097 <SCUBA9097@aol.com> wrote:

€ Dillon,
€
€ I'm trying to access Google through Thunderbird, but I'm unable to
€ make it work so far. I think I'm having problems with the server name /
€ port number.
€
€ Ted
€

http://groups-beta.google.com/grphp?...b=ng&ned=us&q=

Or just type in www.google.com and click on the "Groups" link. Type in
rec.scuba and you'll have this group. In order to post, you'll have to
register, but if you can post from the deeper blue website, you should
be able to set up a Google account without any trouble.