Giant Tidal Wave in Thailand.....

H. Huntzinger wrote:
> Joe English <jenglish@wisperhome.com> wrote:
>
>>How much time passed from the earthquake to the Tsunami?
>
>
> In some areas, not all that much time at all. The quake hit at 7:59am
> local time. Reportedly 33 minutes later, it hit the coastal region of
> Aceh in Sumatra. Phuket appears to have been hit within the first hour.
>
> Generally speaking, the delay times were slightly more than the nominal
> maximum deepwater speed of a Tsunami of 500mph. Thus, a location 1500
> miles away would be hit no earlier than 3 hours after the quake. This
> is enough time to issue a warning if you have the technology in place,
> but in 3rd World types of areas, its unlikely that you'll be able to
> successfully disseminate a warning.
>
> FWIW, the Tsnunami was detected on tidal gages 5,000 miles away in New
> Zealand, approximately 17 hours after quake (= 300mph average velocity).
> Fortunately, it was only 4"-12" in height, probably in no small part
> because it had to dissipatively warp around Australia to get there. It
> should theoretically have also been detectable in the Atlantic too.
>
>
>
>
>>You would think that they knew it was coming from aerial
>>surveillance of the area.
>
>
> It is rare to see what you weren't even looking for.
>
> The Pacific basin has a detect/warning system, because ~95% of all known
> Tsunami's occur there. The Indian Ocean basin doesn't have such a
> network, nor does the Atlantic Ocean.
>
> The effective fallback system is a Siesmologist somewhere whose
> equipment detects the quake, which then gets plotted to an undersea
> location, and some deductive reasoning says to make some phone calls.
> Yesterday's news reports alluded to some warning phone calls being
> initiated, but lacking a "hot line", it would have gotten bogged down.
> I did see one news report that claimed that at least one of the resort
> hotels somewhere did try to evacuate their beach before the wave hit.
>
>
>
>>Does/Can a tsunami be generated from the epicenter or miles away or
>>just anywhere in the general area?
>
>
> I believe that it has to generally be near the epicenter, as the basic
> cause is that the ground has shifted, and the water over that location
> is raised in elevation, so it starts to flow downhill (away).
>
>
>
> -hh
From what I read there is a warning system, and many third world
countries have it, Thailand did not have the warning system in place
where the tsunami hit. How unfortunate. There was a warning however
and it appears that many people choose to watch instead of evacuate.
That is a pity. For those that did not know and lost loved ones and
children is a real shame.

I read in an article in the paper that quake and tsunami were so strong
that it inteferred with the earth's rotation. WOW!

"Joe English" wrote ...
> I read in an article in the paper that quake and tsunami were so strong
> that it inteferred with the earth's rotation. WOW!

So, basically, the Earth farted...

In article <1104258405.728804.54580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups. com>, Reef
Fish <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:

€ Randy Buckner wrote:
€ > "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
€
€ > > The local CNN breaking news (in Hong Kong) reported at least 1,700
€ dead
€ > > in Sri Lanka (as opposed to the 2,143 reported on the web), and
€ that
€ > > the resort of Phuket and the Maldives was badly hit.
€
€ That was two days ago. The estimate of death toll caused by the
€ quake and resulting tsunamis exceeded 22,000 this morning!
€ > >
€ > Very sad indeed. I just read this:
€ >
€ > Paradise destroyed
€ >
€ > Thai authorities say more than 200 are feared dead, and hundreds are
€ missing
€ > after the massive waves swept through coastal areas, including Krabi
€ and the
€ > popular resort islands of Phuket and Phi Phi.
€ >
€ > One witness said Phuket's famed Laguna Beach resort area is
€ "completely
€ > gone." The area provides 40 percent of Thailand's $10 billion annual
€ tourist
€ > income.
€ >
€ > Among the missing were a number of scuba divers exploring the Emerald
€ Cave
€ > off Phuket's coast. Officials say the final toll in Thailand may be
€ closer
€ > to 1,000.
€ >
€ > Buck
€
€ I read something in the Asian papers that some scuba divers diving the
€ famed Emerlad Cave (where the exit is through a tunnel at depth, guided
€ by ambient light above) were rescued while others were lost diving that
€ site.
€
€ I haven't heard much about Bali and how it was affected by this event.
€ I am doubly glad I had the chance to dive there in April and
€ experienced
€ the incredible drifts/currents and seeing my first mola mola there!
€

As far as I know, Java and Borneo were unaffected. Bali is over 2,500
km from the epicenter, with a lot of land in between. I doubt anyone on
Bali even noticed the change in water level.


€ I suspect diving in Indonesia and the Maldives will be forever changed
€ by this natural disaster.
€

I would agree with the Maldives, but not with Indonesia. There isn't
much of a dive industry on Sumatra, and most of the diving in Borneo is
on the eastern side, well sheltered from the effects of this tsunami.
Bali, as I mentioned above, is sheltered even more.



€ -- Bob.
€

the quake was not a single one, it was a series.
see details at USGS earthquake monitor:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqs...uakes_all.html

for better overview, i arranged some data to a map of all bengal sea:
http://2lo.de/kitedive/events/thaila...ec-tsunami.jpg

waves animation at ARFC web:
http://staff.aist.go.jp/kenji.satake/animation.gif


tomm.
( http://2lo.de/kitedive/events/thaila...ththailand.htm )



> Sounds like there could be other smaller scale earthquake after big
ones....
> How long (you guess) will these small ones finish?
>
> KT


"KT" <kt_91488044@yahoo.com.hk>
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Grumman-581 wrote:

> "Joe English" wrote ...
>
>>I read in an article in the paper that quake and tsunami were so strong
>>that it inteferred with the earth's rotation. WOW!
>
>
> So, basically, the Earth farted...
>
>
I think it shit in its pants and down its legs

According to the New York Times phone calls were made trying to alert
authorities of the coming wave, but there was no infrastructure to get
the information out to the population

I understand the fights with food etc. going through but
Really the countries of the world are not doing enough

The United States is sending u.s.s.Lincoln and support ships
Why because they can make thousands of gallons of water from seawater which
survivors desperately need. Heavy equipment helicopters etc. also an
amphibious carrier for search and rescue.

Dive ships that have the capability should be making there presents known by
distributing water at least and search rescue.

In fact, most countries should be sending war ship to the area to assist in
the above situation.

The French, British, etc., should be steaming at high speed with their
hospital ship towards these countries .

There are more than 10s of thousand dead; the figure is closer 100s of
thousands killed.




"Diver" <GRATEFULDIVER@SBCGLOBAL.NET> wrote in message
news:1104277415.714288.114410@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> According to the New York Times phone calls were made trying to alert
> authorities of the coming wave, but there was no infrastructure to get
> the information out to the population
>

I am looking for my brother and his fiance. Their names are Justin
Ledingham and Seda Tekoz. They were staying on Phi Phi Island and were
due to go diving on the 26th when the tsunami hit. We have had no news
and were wandering if you knew anything or anything about dive charters
from there.
Kind regards
Victoria

One of the reports on Phi Phi island said that the waves reached as high as
the 3rd floor of the hotels there, whereas, those who made it to the 2nd
floor of hotels in Pouket were able to get above the surge of water.
Pouket is the only major dive destination in the world that I have to add
to my list.

The TV pictures show Pouket with small hills or mountains hugging close to
the shore, whereas, I understand that Phi Phi is and island that is flat on
the water or so it shows in the TV images of devastation I've seen. So,
obviously, different resorts were hit differently, depending on the
topography, I suppose.

vpenfold@worldonline.co.za wrote:

> I am looking for my brother and his fiance. Their names are Justin
> Ledingham and Seda Tekoz. They were staying on Phi Phi Island and were
> due to go diving on the 26th when the tsunami hit. We have had no news
> and were wandering if you knew anything or anything about dive charters
> from there.
> Kind regards
> Victoria

There was a further post from the Rover group in which they noted that
damage to Phuket, except for the beach resorts, was minor.

"John Deknatel" <deknatel@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:U5ydneTbt8Dxt03cRVn-hQ@rogers.com...
> To all who are concerned about the passengers, crew and staff of Ocean
> Rover
> Dive Cruises. . At the time of the disaster the boat was, and continues
> to
> be, in Myanmar Mergui Archipelago which was unaffected by the tidal waves.
>
> Management is in continuous contact with the boat via satellite phone.
> The
> office and office infrastructure is intact. Communications in Phuket are
> very limited at this time. Updates will be posted if necessary.
>
> Diving in Myanmar is good and he boat has been unaffected by the disaster.
>
> John
>
>
> "KT" <kt_91488044@yahoo.com.hk> wrote in message
> news:cqmdg5$qvs2@imsp212.netvigator.com...
>> http://www.turkishpress.com/world/ne...8.eimrlc5x.xml
>>
>> Anyone knows how the situation is at Phuket, Kao Lak & Similan Island?
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