Wide Angle IS makes sense...

Joan wrote:

>The time spent cleaning up meant that there was not enough time to get
>the tripod set up.
>
>Hey, Rita, now we know why there's only one shot.

Ahahahahahaha...

You're implying that guys are messy?

That's so sexist!

Bill wrote:
> Joan wrote:
>
>> The time spent cleaning up meant that there was not enough time to get
>> the tripod set up.
>>
>> Hey, Rita, now we know why there's only one shot.
>
> Ahahahahahaha...
>
> You're implying that guys are messy?
>
> That's so sexist!
>

Well, "Rita" is male, and "Joan" hasn't revealed his/her sexuality.

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Joan is female.

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"John McWilliams" <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote in message
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: Bill wrote:
: > Joan wrote:
: >
: >> The time spent cleaning up meant that there was not enough time
to get
: >> the tripod set up.
: >>
: >> Hey, Rita, now we know why there's only one shot.
: >
: > Ahahahahahaha...
: >
: > You're implying that guys are messy?
: >
: > That's so sexist!
: >
:
: Well, "Rita" is male, and "Joan" hasn't revealed his/her sexuality.
:
: --
: lsmft

Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
> Mark² wrote:
>
>> It isn't "new" anything.
>> I've been shooting with IS lenses since 1997.
>> If I'm shooting hand-held at significantly slower speeds, IS is going
>> to help.
>
> At 400mm I will agree with you, but at 24mm on an FF a person with
> turrets syndrome swinging the 5D and that lens around on the end of a
> rope can get an image as equally sharp or if not sharper under those
> conditions. You have yet to post a side-by-side comparison with IS
> off. You see, I know that you are very capable of exceeding the
> quality of the shot by not using IS handheld.
>
>> People aren't as sinister as your little pea-brain imagines.
>
> Huh? What are you talking about?

My printer is the Epson 4000. See it in the picture there??
You know why I use that printer?
-Because I often create large prints...and wide angle, at that.
You should try it some time.
When you do, you'll discover that those hand-held images you claim are tack
sharp, really aren't.
Heck, even with IS, they'll comparatively benefit from a tripod...but
without one, there are real benefits to IS.
Specifically, the tiny jitters that one has--even with good technique, etc.
BTW--perhaps you could explain this "technique" of yours as you'd apply it
while shooting out the window of a vehicle in which you have no ability to
turn off the motor (example: Denali, Alaska, where you can only access the
park via buses...which are the place you'll most likely run into skads of
wildlife). You can try, but you'll be puffing hot air about your
"technique" because although the body CAN be used as a damper, there are
limits. It is the point at which this limitation kicks in that IS takes up
your slack. IS can literally save the shot. While it's certainly and
obviously true that longer extension shots are more susceptible to camera
motion blur, it is all a matter of degree. Along with the degree to which
focal length effects the perception of blur, so does enlargement. If you
don't go big...practically EVERYONE takes "sharp" images! :)

-But I think you knew that already, and somehow just take joy in trying to
sound like you know something others don't. -Reminds me of little kids on
the playground, with their "I know something you don't know..." line.
Perhaps you should think of a new slogan.

Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
www.pbase.com/markuson

Joan wrote:
> Pathetic, really.

I have kill-filed him twice.
I once took him out, thinking I should give him another chance, but he
quickly made clear why my earlier instincts were correct: ASAAR lives to
argue, and takes great pleasure in annoying people. So... As far as it
concerns me, he only exists as an occasional "echo."

> "ASAAR" <caught@22.com> wrote in message
> news:nfegf2dm2pp3dh5p6i7fgq6ktejot9q67c@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 06:33:22 -0700, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even
>> number here)@cox..net> wrote:
>>
>> [Mark²]
>>>>> People aren't as sinister as your little pea-brain imagines.
>>
>>> ASS-AR is kill-file material.
>>> Always has been.
>>
>> Sir pea-brain has spoken yet again, in his customary hostile,
>> insulting manner. Perhaps you've found a soul mate. :)



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I'm not sure whether he's picked up the Rodisms yet. If you need me
to explain that, I will.

I don't like using the kill file as there's always someone who replies
and I get curious.

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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
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: Joan wrote:
: > Pathetic, really.
:
: I have kill-filed him twice.
: I once took him out, thinking I should give him another chance, but
he
: quickly made clear why my earlier instincts were correct: ASAAR
lives to
: argue, and takes great pleasure in annoying people. So... As far
as it
: concerns me, he only exists as an occasional "echo."
:

Joan wrote:
> I'm not sure whether he's picked up the Rodisms yet. If you need me
> to explain that, I will.

??

> I don't like using the kill file as there's always someone who replies
> and I get curious.

I usually see it that way also. In the case of ASAAR, it just isn't worth
the time.
What little I see of him in echo is more than enough to let me know he's not
worth my time.

> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
> news:cKbKg.2132$nL2.2015@fed1read02...
>> Joan wrote:
>>> Pathetic, really.
>>
>> I have kill-filed him twice.
>> I once took him out, thinking I should give him another chance, but
>> he quickly made clear why my earlier instincts were correct: ASAAR
>> lives to argue, and takes great pleasure in annoying people. So...
>> As far as it concerns me, he only exists as an occasional "echo."

--
Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
www.pbase.com/markuson

There's an Aussie wanker called Rod Speed who consistently posts
trite, rude replies, commonly referred to as the speed bot.

If you're game, take a peek at aus.comms.mobile and sort by poster,
you'll get the idea very quickly.

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Joan
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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
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: Joan wrote:
: > I'm not sure whether he's picked up the Rodisms yet. If you need
me
: > to explain that, I will.
:
: ??
:

Joan wrote:

> There's an Aussie wanker called Rod Speed who consistently posts
> trite, rude replies, commonly referred to as the speed bot.
>
> If you're game, take a peek at aus.comms.mobile and sort by poster,
> you'll get the idea very quickly.

Unfortunately, he infests other groups as well. There are also more
Aussies like him on Usenet. We seem to have quite a high wanker to
normal ratio.

--
Mike Warren
My web gallery: http://web.aanet.com.au/miwa/mike

John McWilliams wrote:

> Well, "Rita" is male, and "Joan" hasn't revealed his/her sexuality.

Hey, I is what I is and I'm not telling. Plus, what does gender have to
with anything unless you aren't sure about yours?






Rita