Re: Twinset or CCR?

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:38:49 +0000 (UTC), "Nigel Hewitt"
<ukrs@REMOVETHISnigelhewitt.co.uk> wrote:

>Lazarus X wrote:
>>
>> I never thought save your money and CCR would appear in the same
>> sentence
>
>You cost my weeks diving at Dover on 20/40 on OC then.
>Don't forget to allow for the petrol as getting nitrox
>was a problem within many miles. I just took a fill whip
>and never needed to visit the shop.

....then we factor in the cost of the unit and hey presto. Shit loads
out of pocket

Laz

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Lazarus X wrote:
> "Nigel Hewitt" wrote:
>> Lazarus X wrote:
>>>
>>> I never thought save your money and CCR would appear in the same
>>> sentence
>>
>> You cost my weeks diving at Dover on 20/40 on OC then.
>> Don't forget to allow for the petrol as getting nitrox
>> was a problem within many miles. I just took a fill whip
>> and never needed to visit the shop.
>
> ...then we factor in the cost of the unit and hey presto. Shit loads
> out of pocket

Nope. You can't factor that in. I buy toys
for other reasons. You'll be factoring the
cost of re-concreting the patio where I park
the compressor into my fills next. Write the
CCR down over a couple of years in good book
keeping fashion - oh - it's a couple of years
old already. Well, I never have to pay for it
again.

I have gas here, I have kitty litter by the
keg. The object is to make diving easy as I
miss too many dives already. The advantage
with the turtle is that it will do any shaped
dive. The limiting factor is me, what I'm
trained for, what I feel dived up for and what
I can stand the trip out to.

I've just spent a week diving in very low vis
and I much prefer the CCR if I'm risking a buddy
seperation. If something breaks I have a drill
to manage it. I practice the drills to pass a
boring stop so they're all familier. With the
twins all I had was 'shutdown and pray nothing
else breaks'.

nigelH

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 10:31:53 +0000 (UTC), "Nigel Hewitt"
<ukrs@REMOVETHISnigelhewitt.co.uk> wrote:

>Lazarus X wrote:
>> "Nigel Hewitt" wrote:
>>> Lazarus X wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I never thought save your money and CCR would appear in the same
>>>> sentence
>>>
>>> You cost my weeks diving at Dover on 20/40 on OC then.
>>> Don't forget to allow for the petrol as getting nitrox
>>> was a problem within many miles. I just took a fill whip
>>> and never needed to visit the shop.
>>
>> ...then we factor in the cost of the unit and hey presto. Shit loads
>> out of pocket
>
>Nope. You can't factor that in. I buy toys
>for other reasons. You'll be factoring the
>cost of re-concreting the patio where I park
>the compressor into my fills next. Write the
>CCR down over a couple of years in good book
>keeping fashion - oh - it's a couple of years
>old already. Well, I never have to pay for it
>again.

The point of the comment wa that you don't buy CCR to save money
but...

>I have gas here, I have kitty litter by the
>keg. The object is to make diving easy as I
>miss too many dives already. The advantage
>with the turtle is that it will do any shaped
>dive. The limiting factor is me, what I'm
>trained for, what I feel dived up for and what
>I can stand the trip out to.

This is it for me, I have everything I need to go diving, I don't have
to rely on the dive shop near the quay to provide me with the means to
go diving. Therefore:

(i) I don't have to run around getting my cylinders filled at the end
of the day - if I need to change the litter, I grab the 5Kg tub and
fill it without having to leave the boat.

(ii) If I am on a day boat that doesn't pump gas, I don't have to save
gas from my first dive so I can get in for a second (I always found
this a problem with my twin 10's - might not be a problem for larger
cylinders)

(iii) If gas supply is difficult, I can take my own and decant without
having to charter a 40 ton artic.

(iv) As in Nigels comments, depending on the dive I am doing, I have
2 choices of dil. This is air or heliair. So if conditions change
the dive plan, I am good for anything.

>I've just spent a week diving in very low vis
>and I much prefer the CCR if I'm risking a buddy
>seperation. If something breaks I have a drill
>to manage it. I practice the drills to pass a
>boring stop so they're all familier. With the
>twins all I had was 'shutdown and pray nothing
>else breaks'.

LOL, i'll go with that.

I found that the biggest change when diving CCR was the I spent more
time the night before putting my unit together and checking that
everything is in order. Also you _have_ to clean it out properly when
you get back.

Laz

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First, get a huge block of marble. Then, chip away
everything that doesn't look like an Elephant.
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