Tie the primary reg round your neck - a good idea?

Lazarus X wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:01:44 +0100, rich <rich@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>>Necklacing your PRIMARY in an overhead is exceptionally stupid.
>>>
>>>Necklacing your backup in all environments is almost always a great idea,
>>>but becomes near-mandatory in an overhead.
>>>
>>
>>I nearly had a go at you about that... but read it again, and agree
>>with you.
>>
>>maybe I should do some work instead?
>
>
> Maybe you should reply to the mail I sent you 2 days ago
>
oh bugger! I knew I had forgotten something <sheepish grin>

oopsie.

reply on it's way today, sorry, sorry, sorry.

"Iain Smith" <iainmsmith@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> > > Being always paranoid about losing my regulator I was
> > > thinking about fixing it around my neck with some tubing in
> > > the same way the DIR divers do with their backup regulator.
> > >
> > > Is this likely to cause more problems than it solves, or does anyone
> > > actually do this?
> >
> > apart from overhead environment,
> >
> > [MARK & LARD]
> > No Neeeeeeeeeeeed...
> > [/MARK & LARD]
>
> Necklacing your PRIMARY in an overhead is exceptionally stupid.
>
> Necklacing your backup in all environments is almost always a great idea,
> but becomes near-mandatory in an overhead.
>
> Iain
>
> Iain
>
>

Beg your pardon, read the thread wrong. Backup always necklaced, unless I'm
'exhibiting role model behaviour'?!!

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:36:52 +0100, Danny Burchett <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

>Lazarus X wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:01:44 +0100, rich <rich@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>Necklacing your PRIMARY in an overhead is exceptionally stupid.
>>>>
>>>>Necklacing your backup in all environments is almost always a great idea,
>>>>but becomes near-mandatory in an overhead.
>>>>
>>>I nearly had a go at you about that... but read it again, and agree
>>>with you.
>>>
>>>maybe I should do some work instead?
>>
>> Maybe you should reply to the mail I sent you 2 days ago
>>
>
>You mean it's not only me he is ignoring?
>
>Rich, sounds like yer email is a problem!
>
some problems with work email... but they do fixes and patches
regularly... in this case Danny me old mate... it's your email... I
keep getting bounces from your address.... "couldn't deliver for 4
hrs. will keep trying" etc.

rich

> Necklacing your PRIMARY in an overhead is exceptionally stupid.

Kind of depends on whether you breathe the long hose or the short one,
doesn't it? While they tend to be quiet about it, there are more than a few
people in this world that think this is the right way to do it. I'm not one
of them.

Necklacing your backup in all environments is almost always a great idea . .
..

I agree.

> but becomes near-mandatory in an overhead.

Why would it be any more important in an overhead than anyplace else? If
you need your alternate, you'd better know where to find it, in or out of
overhead environments, but there's more than one way to skin that cat.

Lee

Lee Bell wrote:
>>Necklacing your PRIMARY in an overhead is exceptionally stupid.
>
>
> Kind of depends on whether you breathe the long hose or the short one,
> doesn't it? While they tend to be quiet about it, there are more than a few
> people in this world that think this is the right way to do it. I'm not one
> of them.
>
> Necklacing your backup in all environments is almost always a great idea . .
> .
>
> I agree.
>
>
>>but becomes near-mandatory in an overhead.
>
>
> Why would it be any more important in an overhead than anyplace else? If
> you need your alternate, you'd better know where to find it, in or out of
> overhead environments, but there's more than one way to skin that cat.

CESA?

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 23:59:41 +0200, BarryNL <barry@nospam.nl> wrote:


>>>Necklacing your PRIMARY in an overhead is exceptionally stupid.
>> Kind of depends on whether you breathe the long hose or the short one,
>> doesn't it? While they tend to be quiet about it, there are more than a few
>> people in this world that think this is the right way to do it. I'm not one
>> of them.
>> Necklacing your backup in all environments is almost always a great idea . .
>> I agree.
>>>but becomes near-mandatory in an overhead.
>> Why would it be any more important in an overhead than anyplace else? If
>> you need your alternate, you'd better know where to find it, in or out of
>> overhead environments, but there's more than one way to skin that cat.
>CESA?

CESA? The kind of diver that is debating the use of a long hose,
necklacing the alternate reg, is quite likely to be running a deco
schedule. So a CESA is the last option (as has been discussed before)
or not even an option. If you are doing this type of diving it is
imperitive that you solve the problem down there, not go for the
surface.

Pete S.

BarryNL wrote:


> Lee Bell wrote:
> >>Necklacing your PRIMARY in an overhead is exceptionally stupid.
> >
> >
> > Kind of depends on whether you breathe the long hose or the short one,
> > doesn't it? While they tend to be quiet about it, there are more than a
few
> > people in this world that think this is the right way to do it. I'm not
one
> > of them.
> >
> > Necklacing your backup in all environments is almost always a great idea
.. .
> > .
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> >
> >>but becomes near-mandatory in an overhead.
> >
> >
> > Why would it be any more important in an overhead than anyplace else?
If
> > you need your alternate, you'd better know where to find it, in or out
of
> > overhead environments, but there's more than one way to skin that cat.

> CESA?

There's a question mark at the end of the word, but I don't understand the
question. I don't see that CESA has anything to do with the fact that
there's more than one way to ensure your alternate is where you can find it.

Lee

"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> > Necklacing your PRIMARY in an overhead is exceptionally stupid.
>
> Kind of depends on whether you breathe the long hose or the short one,
> doesn't it? While they tend to be quiet about it, there are more than a
few
> people in this world that think this is the right way to do it. I'm not
one
> of them.

You always breath the log hose, the primary, the reasoning following that is
the regulator you donate and therefore, should be the best performing and if
you're breathing it - clearly it works. It's routed from your right pillar
valve.

> Necklacing your backup in all environments is almost always a great idea .
..
>
> I agree.
> > but becomes near-mandatory in an overhead.
>
> Why would it be any more important in an overhead than anyplace else? If
> you need your alternate, you'd better know where to find it, in or out of
> overhead environments, but there's more than one way to skin that cat.
>
> Lee

The shorthose is necklaced, so that you don't need to use your hands -
assuming that you just "handed off" the long hose, you've a torch and maybe
reel in the other hand... So with the necklace you simply duck your head and
a correctly sized necklace will put the short hosed reg into your "bite"
area. You find in the overhead environment, you will have a torch and reel
therefore the requirement for necklacing is higher or perhaps more correctly
the requirement to keep your hands as free as possible for other things to
occur in parallel.

/FAB.

> > but becomes near-mandatory in an overhead.
>
> Why would it be any more important in an overhead than
> anyplace else? If you need your alternate, you'd better know
> where to find it, in or out of overhead environments, but
> there's more than one way to skin that cat.

I was trying to steer a middle-of-the-road course in order to keep on side
the philistines who can't see the benefits of the necklaced backup. As
demonstrated, such a course of action tends to result in one being hit by
the traffic going in both directions! :)

I.