diving insurance and diving deep

at present a thread is going on about who covers who for what depth for
dive insurance.

people on this news group have done some very deep diving, deeper that I
ever want to go. How deep is the deepest that you can get certified for.
Police divers are limited to 30 meters?
at what depth do you become uninsurable or does the premium just get very
high.

Regards David

"david" <im@fedup.com> wrote in message
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> at present a thread is going on about who covers who for what depth for
> dive insurance.
>
> people on this news group have done some very deep diving, deeper that I
> ever want to go. How deep is the deepest that you can get certified for.
> Police divers are limited to 30 meters?
> at what depth do you become uninsurable or does the premium just get very
> high.

I would guess that the deepest cert would be the TDI advanced trimix which
(IIRC) is down to 90m

With this certification the policies that do not specify a limit (i.e
provide cover for diving in accordance with your qualifications, and
recognise TDI) should provide cover at the same premium.

> I would guess that the deepest cert would be the TDI advanced trimix which
> (IIRC) is down to 90m
>
Al's card says 90m... mine says 100m... the training must have improved
in the two years since Al did his qualification :o)

rich (who hasn't dived as deep as Al yet...)

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:48:38 +0000 (UTC), "david" <im@fedup.com>
wrote:

>at what depth do you become uninsurable or does the premium just get very
>high.

Dive-master.net does:

Subject always to your Authoritative Diving Bodies
recommendations for safe diving practice and unless otherwise
endorsed, this insurance excludes Sport Diving deeper than 50 metres
on Air and 75 metres on Trimix. (unless in an attempt to save human
life).

Diveinsurance.com (PADI's officially recommended insurer) offer cover
to 130 ft/40 m on their $42/year policy, and unlimited depth for the
other two ($65/$95 respectively). PADI Diving Society members get a
$20 discount on the top level of cover, and although the prices are in
dollars cover is available worldwide.

Kev

"david" <im@fedup.com> wrote in message
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> > I would guess that the deepest cert would be the TDI advanced trimix
which
> > (IIRC) is down to 90m
> >
> > With this certification the policies that do not specify a limit (i.e
> > provide cover for diving in accordance with your qualifications, and
> > recognise TDI) should provide cover at the same premium.
> >
> so if 90m is the limit are there many wrecks below this that will never be
> dived
> or do people just except there doing stuff that is uninsurable. There is
the
> rov but
> that is not diving is it ?
>
> How often are 90m dives done, where can one get 90m the channel is only a
> puddle
> compared to 90m.
>
> Ps I have nothing to do. sorry if im only asking questions. This sort of
> diving is way ot of my league.
>
> Regards David
>
>
ok then just insert 100m

"david" <im@fedup.com> wrote in message
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>
> people on this news group have done some very deep diving, deeper that I
> ever want to go. How deep is the deepest that you can get certified for.
> Police divers are limited to 30 meters?
> at what depth do you become uninsurable or does the premium just get very
> high.

My TDI Advanced Nitrox card says I can use nitrox down to 150' (46m).

DAN state that their standard cover is up to a partial pressure of 2 atm
oxygen and 5.6 atm nitrogen regardless of qualifications. See
https://www.daneurope.org/ for more info.

Not sure how this helps though...

R.

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:49:19 +0000 (UTC), "david" <im@fedup.com>
wrote:

>
>"david" <im@fedup.com> wrote in message
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>> > I would guess that the deepest cert would be the TDI advanced trimix
>which
>> > (IIRC) is down to 90m
>> >
>> > With this certification the policies that do not specify a limit (i.e
>> > provide cover for diving in accordance with your qualifications, and
>> > recognise TDI) should provide cover at the same premium.
>> >
>> so if 90m is the limit are there many wrecks below this that will never be
>> dived
>> or do people just except there doing stuff that is uninsurable. There is
>the
>> rov but
>> that is not diving is it ?
>>
>> How often are 90m dives done, where can one get 90m the channel is only a
>> puddle
>> compared to 90m.

If we are talking about locations local to the UK your best bet would
be to head out around Ireland. As you get closer to the edge of the
continental shelf, the depth increases. So for example Luistania lies
of the South coast in around 96m of water. Off the North West there
are wrecks like RMS Justacia (70) and RMS Transylvania (132m).

Further afield, there are wrecks like SS Egypt (125m) in (IIRC) Biscay
and RMS Carpathia (158m) which lies in the Atlantic proper.

The is one wreck that I would love to get on but I doubt I will ever
get the chance. It lies just off the coast of Greece in 116m of
water.....

What? There is no harm in dreaming. Oh and of course, there is a
small problem of getting enough experience to be able to dive these
kind of wrecks. Still, if a certain person comes thorough I may get
on the Justacia next year but it seems he is being far to selfish for
his own good

Laz

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> so if 90m is the limit are there many wrecks below this that will never be
> dived or do people just except there doing stuff that is uninsurable.

My kit insurance allows me to dive within my qualifications. So upto100m is
OK.

My DAN insurance should be OK providing I don't run into "Pete's Problem".

Otherwise I'm uninsured & presumably expendable.

> How often are 90m dives done, where can one get 90m the channel is only a
> puddle
> compared to 90m.

Pretty regular. Northern Scotland is pretty good for that type of depth &
deeper; for instance the King Edward VII (115m) and the SS Caribean (108m).
With some good weather we'll be on those next year - 12 days during June &
July.

Cheers
Matt.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:16:07 +0200, "Imorital" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>> What? There is no harm in dreaming. Oh and of course, there is a
>> small problem of getting enough experience to be able to dive these
>> kind of wrecks. Still, if a certain person comes thorough I may get
>> on the Justacia next year but it seems he is being far to selfish for
>> his own good
>
>I have spaces on a Mailn-head trip next year (Justicia, Empire Heritage,
>Audacious, Laurentic, etc.). If you are interested, then give me a private
>email: imorital at yahoo dot co do uk.

You have mail!

Laz

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>
> Otherwise I'm uninsured & presumably expendable.
> Cheers
> Matt.
>
it was the above I was curious about. I understand diving is not the safest
hobby we all do our best to reduce the risk at
any level of diving. then there's comes at point where it is just a leap of
faith I suppose kit loss at these depths is a minor
problem. hope you have some good dives Ill be sticking to the shallows

Thanks all

Regards David

ps there was no point to the question I was just interested.