My e-mail address

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:13:04 GMT, HW "Skip" Weldon <skip5700@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:15:10 GMT, "Lee Bell"
><leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Out of 49 messages received in the hour it
>>took me to turn off the computer I use for personal stuff in the office and
>>travel to the computer I use for personal stuff at home, it diverted 45 of
>>them directly to the delete folder. Two of the remaining 4 were actually
>>messages to me. 8^)
>
> That's what I'm doing, too.
> Any ideas about how this will eventually be resolved?
>
> -HW "Skip" Weldon
> Columbia, SC

my filters are (1) if it isn't to me or one of my addresses - dump it
(2) if it goes to the email address in my reply-to header - dump it

(2) is temporarily necessary and will probably get removed in a week or
two.

DaveP.
--
Pretend to spank me -- I'm a pseudo-masochist!

Mike Painter <mdotpainter@att.net> wrote:
>Some have expiration dates but most don't.
>This one can well float around until people.
>1. Install a patch they should have installed over two years ago.

2 years ago? The blaster holes and patches didn't exist until
quite recently. Barely 2 months for the older one.

No, it's a never ending process now - at least for those that expose
their machine to outsiders.
--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:00:11 +0000 (UTC), jor@soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(Jason O'Rourke) wrote:

>>Some have expiration dates but most don't.
>>This one can well float around until people.
>>1. Install a patch they should have installed over two years ago.
>
>2 years ago? The blaster holes and patches didn't exist until
>quite recently. Barely 2 months for the older one.
>No, it's a never ending process now - at least for those that expose
>their machine to outsiders.

Apparently every time the virus gets to a new machine, it uses that
machine's mailbox to start all over again. That's depressing.

How would a machine owner know that their machine is infected?
And what would they do?


-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

> How would a machine owner know that their machine is infected?
> And what would they do?
>
>
> -HW "Skip" Weldon
> Columbia, SC

I'm guessing seeing as these things are 142k and 154k a piece and I'm
getting at least 100 a day the fact that their network traffic is through
the roof might give it a away...

...."the internet has been really slow for days, they really should do
something about it - why are these two little computers in this icon always
green? They used to be black and sometimes green..."

Where did I put that copy of Linux...

CAS

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"CAS" <calumscott@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> Where did I put that copy of Linux...

MCP (Microsoft Certified Professional) Magazine (IIRC) just did a poll where
the question was basically "if Bill gates gave you a million dollars, what's
teh first thing you would spend it on?". One of the possible answers was
"Switch to Linux"

>
> CAS
>
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>
>

Go to this address
http://securityresponse.symantec.com...ools.list.html and pick up
the cleaning tools you need. I suggest both W32.Swen.A and W32.SoBig.F.
After downloading them to your hard drive, turn off system restore, which
will remove all previous restore points to keep Windows from reloading the
virus on you machine, and run the programs, one at a time. If the virus is
there, they will find it and clean it. If it's not there, they'll tell you
it's not.

Lee

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"HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:00:11 +0000 (UTC), jor@soda.csua.berkeley.edu
> (Jason O'Rourke) wrote:
>
> >>Some have expiration dates but most don't.
> >>This one can well float around until people.
> >>1. Install a patch they should have installed over two years ago.
> >
> >2 years ago? The blaster holes and patches didn't exist until
> >quite recently. Barely 2 months for the older one.
> >No, it's a never ending process now - at least for those that expose
> >their machine to outsiders.
>
> Apparently every time the virus gets to a new machine, it uses that
> machine's mailbox to start all over again. That's depressing.
>
> How would a machine owner know that their machine is infected?
> And what would they do?
>
>
> -HW "Skip" Weldon
> Columbia, SC

chrisguynn@sbcglobal.N.O.S.P.A.M.net stopped playing nethack just long enough to say:
>
>"if Bill gates gave you a million dollars, what's teh first thing you
>would spend it on?". One of the possible answers was "Switch to
>Linux"

Why would that cost a million dollars? if they are running an MS
operating system, then they should already have everything they need to
run Linux, which is availble for free.

Of course, they would have to fire all their loser IT support people
and hire folks who actually knew what they were doing, but that should
cost a lot less than a million dollars, since they shouldn't need as
many of them.

In fact, I'd bet that not only would such a switch NOT cost a million
dollars, it would probably *save* money over what they are paying now.

-JimG

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<Jim.Greenlee@cc.gatech.edu> wrote in message
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> chrisguynn@sbcglobal.N.O.S.P.A.M.net stopped playing nethack just long
enough to say:
> >
> >"if Bill gates gave you a million dollars, what's teh first thing you
> >would spend it on?". One of the possible answers was "Switch to
> >Linux"
>
> Why would that cost a million dollars? if they are running an MS
> operating system, then they should already have everything they need to
> run Linux, which is availble for free.

The question wasn't what would you do with a million, it was what would you
do FIRST with a million...

>
> Of course, they would have to fire all their loser IT support people
> and hire folks who actually knew what they were doing, but that should
> cost a lot less than a million dollars, since they shouldn't need as
> many of them.
>
> In fact, I'd bet that not only would such a switch NOT cost a million
> dollars, it would probably *save* money over what they are paying now.

This is probably accurate (and I'm a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer).
I'd have to learn Linux real fast (but I don't expect it'd be a problem).

>
> -JimG
>
> --
> Jim Greenlee (jkg@cc.gatech.edu) Jryy abj lbh'ir tbar naq qbar vg!
> College of Computing Whfg unq gb xrrc svqqyvat jvgu vg
> Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332 hagvy lbh oebxr vg, qvqa'g lbh ?!

"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<wsIbb.55545$Aq2.18996@newsread1.news.atl.ear thlink.net>...
> As some may know, I've been having a terrible problem with my e-mail.

Me too. Some f'er cross-posted to half a dozen OT newsgroups.

Why?

"Jason O'Rourke" <jor@soda.csua.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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> Mike Painter <mdotpainter@att.net> wrote:
> >Some have expiration dates but most don't.
> >This one can well float around until people.
> >1. Install a patch they should have installed over two years ago.
>
> 2 years ago? The blaster holes and patches didn't exist until
> quite recently. Barely 2 months for the older one.
>
> No, it's a never ending process now - at least for those that expose
> their machine to outsiders.

The current round that is causing lots of problems comes from the email
that looks like it comes from MSFT and is blocked by a (I was wrong) 2.5
year old patch.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Sep20.html is one
of many such reports on it.