Pony clamps - are they all as good as each other?

many thanks
Dave
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> "dc" <dave.care@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > hello
> > I was thinking about getting a clamp, but if there's a better way could
> you
> > please elaborate.
> > I don't know what how to sling a pony like a stage bottle on your front
/
> > side.
> > Do you know of any links that illustrates this.
>
> A few useful links for ya...
>
> http://www.bentleytech.com/cave/stage/index.html
> http://www.bitz.fsnet.co.uk/bitzpony.htm
> http://www.bitz.fsnet.co.uk/bitzdeco.htm
> http://www.gue.com/equipment/tanks-4.shtml
>
> These links should tell you just about everything you need to know to rig
a
> pony bottle the stage cylinder way! In terms of how to attatch it to you,
> that really is dependant on the type of kit you dive on. If you dive on a
> BCD then you'll need two D-rings (one near your left hip and the other on
> the left hand side of your chest) to clip the two bolt snaps to you.
> Obviously if you dive on a wing/backplate configuration, stage rigging is
> considerably easier!
>
>

"Bardo" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
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> These links should tell you just about everything you need to know to rig
a
> pony bottle the stage cylinder way! In terms of how to attatch it to you,
> that really is dependant on the type of kit you dive on. If you dive on a
> BCD then you'll need two D-rings (one near your left hip and the other on
> the left hand side of your chest) to clip the two bolt snaps to you.
> Obviously if you dive on a wing/backplate configuration, stage rigging is
> considerably easier!

Not quite, but if we told you everything now - what would do on the Adv
Wreck bundle

/F

Good point about side slung however new divers need to get there weighting
right or they start going sideways

Robert
"dc" <dave.care@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> hello
> I was thinking about getting a clamp, but if there's a better way could
you
> please elaborate.
> I don't know what how to sling a pony like a stage bottle on your front /
> side.
> Do you know of any links that illustrates this.
>
> TIA
> Dave
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> > "Digger" <somogyi@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> > > "David Walker" <wbsdavenews@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > Any recommendations?
> > > >
> > > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes
> > >
> > > Don't get a clamp. Sling it like a stage bottle on your front / side.
> > > Much more versatile, can hand it off if needed, and good practice for
> > > whemn you hit the twin side.
> >
> > Yep - couldn't agree more. I've converted more than a few people to side
> > slung pony's over the last few months - it's the only way to go, if you
> ask
> > me!
> >
> >
>
>


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"Robert Lewis Md" <Robert@cheaperh.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Good point about side slung however new divers need to get there weighting
> right or they start going sideways

Good point - but then that's why aluminium cylinders are the preferred
choice for stages...

> I use the MetalSub clamp http://www.diveshop.co.uk/pages/metalsub.html
Very
> easy to use and has rubber as part of the unit, so no worries about lining
> things up. The pony part is clipped to the cylinder, the main cylinder
part
> is held on with the cam band. Works very well. Mine was about £50 a few
> months ago, you may want to see what the dive show prices are like.

Where did you get yours from? Was that a normal selling price or did you
get a discount? NDiver doesn't seem to have any prices for any of the
MetalSub stuff on their website, but everywhere else seems to do it for £65.

I agree though, definately looks like a very well made and looks like it'll
come off very quickly if it ever needs to.

I've asked the shop where i'm buying the pony kit if he can do it for around
£50, see what he comes up with.

David

David Walker wrote:

>> Don't knock it 'till you've tried it - I think you'll be surprised just
>> how comfortable a properly rigged side slung cylinder can be!
>
>
> Can't try it without buying it though :o( I'll remain unconvinced for
> now, but if I do ever get the chance I will try it, and if I do like it I
> may switch.
>

They're about £20 if you want to buy a set fully made up... but if you
want to experiment, rigging a stage bottle temporarily really isn't that
hard - for swimming pool testing only, try attaching a D ring to the
base of the pony with gaffer tape (round the bottom of the tank rather
than on the base) and use a zip tie to put a clip on the neck. Put a
couple of loops of bungee around the tank to stow regs / contents guage.

Clip the top of the tank to your shoulder, clip the d ring to your
waist, enjoy!

Ben

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David
I sewed a second cam band onto my jacket one. Holds it close and tight and
you can use any main or pony that the cam bands will go around. Not everyone
likes it but it works well for me.


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All the best
TonyL
Swindon. UK

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:17:30 -0000, "Bardo" <anon@anon.com> wrote:

>
>"David Walker" <wbsdavenews@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > > Don't get a clamp. Sling it like a stage bottle on your front / side.
>> > > Much more versatile, can hand it off if needed, and good practice for
>> > > whemn you hit the twin side.
>> >
>> > Yep - couldn't agree more. I've converted more than a few people to side
>> > slung pony's over the last few months - it's the only way to go, if you
>> ask
>> > me!
>>
>> I'll be teaching in Stoney a lot when i'll have the pony with me,
>including
>> things like AV and inversions when doing drysuit training, so I assume
>it'll
>> get in the way and flop around doing that sort of thing so wanted to stick
>> with back-mounted.
>
>Don't knock it 'till you've tried it - I think you'll be surprised just how
>comfortable a properly rigged side slung cylinder can be!

I would add to that. A properly rigged stage it transparent to the
user. I never know mine is there.

>> Again, its one of those things that I don't want to think about taking it,
>> but just has a permanant home around my kit, packed away and not hanging
>> around - I have enough problems when I use a club DSMB/reel that won't fit
>> in my pocket!
>
>Ever thought about using a spool instead? Having recently been converted to
>spools myself (thanks Frank), I can highly recommend them - not only are
>they so small that they fit in the palm of your hand (and therefore your
>drysuit pocket) they have no moving parts and so are very unlikely to jam!

Like I say, Frank has really "done" you


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> Like I say, Frank has really "done" you

<bows>
no KY either.
</bow>

/FAB

> If you insist on going the pony clamp route (personally I'd side sling it
> but that's beside the point) then you should go for the Metalsub clamp - a
> very well made peice of kit that's definately a cut above every other pony
> clamp on the market!

Although I think you can get cheaper ones, the MetalSub's are excellent
clamps. I have several and they all work very smoothly, well worth the
price.

Cheers
Matt.