OW referal PADI Scuba Diver to PADI OW?

Many dive centres offer the full PADI Open Water Referal course, Many offer
the PADI Scuba Diver to Open Water Upgrade (which I guess is theory, pool
and 2 more dives) Is it possible to do the upgrade as a referal? i.e does
the same instructor have to sign all elements off? i.e could you do the
theory & pool here? and complete the two dives with another instructor in
say Red sea?

Is there a "padi" reason why this isnt possible?

Hi.
yes it could be done by any number of instructors no problem, just ask and
pay.

"John Cross" <John.crossq31@hotmail.spma> wrote in message
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> Many dive centres offer the full PADI Open Water Referal course, Many
offer
> the PADI Scuba Diver to Open Water Upgrade (which I guess is theory, pool
> and 2 more dives) Is it possible to do the upgrade as a referal? i.e does
> the same instructor have to sign all elements off? i.e could you do the
> theory & pool here? and complete the two dives with another instructor in
> say Red sea?
>
> Is there a "padi" reason why this isnt possible?
>
>
I did all my PADI training through one shop with 7 instructing staff, over
the courses I've had 5 different instructors sign off on the training.

rhys

"John Cross" <John.crossq31@hotmail.spma> wrote in message
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> Many dive centres offer the full PADI Open Water Referal course, Many
offer
> the PADI Scuba Diver to Open Water Upgrade (which I guess is theory, pool
> and 2 more dives) Is it possible to do the upgrade as a referal? i.e does
> the same instructor have to sign all elements off? i.e could you do the
> theory & pool here? and complete the two dives with another instructor in
> say Red sea?
>
> Is there a "padi" reason why this isnt possible?
>
Its certainly possible. In many ways its the best way if you never intend
on diving in lovely british waters. You get taught (to a ceratin level) to
dive in a pool environment, where safety is governed not only by PADI, but
also by the many HSE regulations. This may not be the case in another
country.

That said, what you dont get is practice. I'd suggest that you do extra
pool dives to make yourself mors comfortable with skills etc, before
venturing out into open water.

Its a bit like driving a car, first you pass your test then you really learn
how to drive. Basically in diving, you learn how not to drown and then once
you've learnt that you can learn how to dive.

I'd still reccomend diving in a quarry in the middle of december (January &
february are normally not as warm), it hardens the soul, and it really is
fun. Generally using school equipment will mean that you will have a few
traumas to gain experience, like freeflow (guaranteed), mask strap failure,
fin strap failure, a kick in the face from an overcrowded platform, dry suit
leak (although you shouldn't really dive in one of these without first doing
a drysuit orientation in a pool) and the sheer trauma of losing your reg
while in fits of laughter watching somebody go feet first exocet style to
the surface.

Have fun

Alex

Alex


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> Hi.
> yes it could be done by any number of instructors no problem, just ask and
> pay.

Number of instructors should not be a problem? Not sure if there as a time
limit between pool/theory and the open water dives on the upgrade?

"John Cross" <John.crossq31@hotmail.spma> wrote in message
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> Many dive centres offer the full PADI Open Water Referal course, Many
offer
> the PADI Scuba Diver to Open Water Upgrade (which I guess is theory, pool
> and 2 more dives) Is it possible to do the upgrade as a referal? i.e does
> the same instructor have to sign all elements off? i.e could you do the
> theory & pool here? and complete the two dives with another instructor in
> say Red sea?
>
> Is there a "padi" reason why this isnt possible?
>
>

OW referal is valid for 12 months from the date that your pool dives were
signed off.
Number of instructors is unimportant. The instructor who signs off your
final open water dive will be the certifying instructor.

HTH

> OW referal is valid for 12 months from the date that your pool dives were
> signed off.
> Number of instructors is unimportant. The instructor who signs off your
> final open water dive will be the certifying instructor.

Is it 12 months from the pool dives? or 12 months from the last module
(theory or pool)?

If the student is approaching 12 months and complete a review of the module
with the instructor would this extend the period? i.e is this scuba review
was signed off by an instructor (as being competant at tasks required at xxx
date)

"Howard" <howard@spam.spam> wrote in message
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> > OW referal is valid for 12 months from the date that your pool dives
were
> > signed off.
> > Number of instructors is unimportant. The instructor who signs off your
> > final open water dive will be the certifying instructor.
>
> Is it 12 months from the pool dives? or 12 months from the last module
> (theory or pool)?
>
> If the student is approaching 12 months and complete a review of the
module
> with the instructor would this extend the period? i.e is this scuba review
> was signed off by an instructor (as being competant at tasks required at
xxx
> date)
>
>
>

Referal is modules 1 thru 3, then confined water dives 1 thru 4.
Modules 4 & 5 + Open water dives are done on the second part of the referal.
Although most british instructors cover all theory modules in one block.
All pool skills must be completed in confined water before being practised
in OW.
The 12 months is from the last module, pool or theory, whichever was last,
as some centres run pool first in order to get people wet straight away, so
to speak.

HTH

I enquired with PADI last year regarding breaks in training on the OW
referral and got the following response from Bristol

>>>
You are correct in stating that the PADI Referral form is valid for one
year. This time limit is from the date the last training segment was
completed until training is recommenced.

Your question regarding breaks in training is an interesting one. If
remaining with the original instructor, there is no maximum time that a
student may take between training sessions. However, the instructor must
verify that the student still understands and remembers previous training
sessions and remediate the student's skills and knowledge as necessary
before continuing with the next training segment.

In the case of referral, if the period is in excess of one year then the
origional instructor must verify that the student still understands and
remembers previous training
sessions and remediate the student's skills and knowledge as necessary
before completing the PADI Referral form.
>>>





> Referal is modules 1 thru 3, then confined water dives 1 thru 4.
> Modules 4 & 5 + Open water dives are done on the second part of the
referal.
> Although most british instructors cover all theory modules in one block.
> All pool skills must be completed in confined water before being practised
> in OW.
> The 12 months is from the last module, pool or theory, whichever was last,
> as some centres run pool first in order to get people wet straight away,
so
> to speak.

Speaking as a near-novice, I did the full PADI thing in the UK over 2
weekends; 1st weekend being lessons & pool, 2nd weekend real diving. I'd
have thought getting the extra practice in before going somewhere exotic was
money and time well spent. Just having the extra bit of experience /
training before entrusting yourself to someone you've never met.

That said, a number of my mates, who's judgement I trust, did do the referal
route and are quite happy. And I'm not personaly fussed about diving abroad
for now, but as an analogy, it's worth going to the "snowdome" before a
skiing holiday so you don't waste the first couple of days - and you might
just decide UK diving is the thing as I have.

Hope this helps you decide, despite not being an answer to the actual
question.

Hywel