BSAC to PADI conversion: materials

Hi all



I'm planning on 'going across' from BSAC to PADI qualifications (with the
ultimate goal of getting to DM level).



I qualified as BSAC 3rd class in 1982. I have around 600 dives and still
dive fairly regularly. I have been reliably informed that I can go-across
at PADI "Rescue Diver" level and am planning on signing-up for a RD course,
but want to appraise myself of the PADI-flavoured stuff that I will have
missed by coming straight in at RD.



I imagine that the main difference between PADI and BSAC are the
decompression tables and how to use them. So, I bought an Open Water manual
off ebay, but (1) it never arrived (2) I have recently been told that these
aren't included in it anyway.



Can anyone point me to somewhere on the interweb where I can find (?scanned)
PADI tables and how to use them? Also welcome are any other pointers on
differences between BSAC and PADI that I should read-up on.



TIA



Nic

If you use the "images" section of google, you'll find a few grainy images
of the plain table and also the nitrox tables. (Watch out, PADI defend
their intellectual property vigorously, and wouldn't even let me use their
logo to link to their own site. BSAC are much more accommodating!).

Be aware that there is also a gadget called the PADI "Wheel", which is used
for multi-level diving.

Essential differences are that PADI won't countenance decompression diving
or diving below 40M, and looks much more like a franchise than a club as you
move up the grades. Rescue Diver appears to be somewhere between Sports
Diver and Dive Leader, and is the first grade at which folk I know accept
that a PADI-trained diver is likely to know what (s)he's doing, and our club
welcomes them with open arms.


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nic wrote:
> Hi all
>
>
>
> I'm planning on 'going across' from BSAC to PADI qualifications
> (with the ultimate goal of getting to DM level).
>
>
>
> I qualified as BSAC 3rd class in 1982. I have around 600 dives and
> still dive fairly regularly. I have been reliably informed that I
> can go-across at PADI "Rescue Diver" level and am planning on
> signing-up for a RD course, but want to appraise myself of the
> PADI-flavoured stuff that I will have missed by coming straight in
> at RD.
>
>
>
> I imagine that the main difference between PADI and BSAC are the
> decompression tables and how to use them. So, I bought an Open Water
> manual off ebay, but (1) it never arrived (2) I have recently been
> told that these aren't included in it anyway.
>
>
>
> Can anyone point me to somewhere on the interweb where I can find
> (?scanned) PADI tables and how to use them? Also welcome are any
> other pointers on differences between BSAC and PADI that I should
> read-up on.
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> Nic

A set of tables is available here:
http://www.aquaholic.com/freesoft.htm

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:25:24 +0000 (UTC), "nic"
<nic.boulton@nospam.btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>
>Hi all
>
>
>
>I'm planning on 'going across' from BSAC to PADI qualifications (with the
>ultimate goal of getting to DM level).
>
>
>
>I qualified as BSAC 3rd class in 1982. I have around 600 dives and still
>dive fairly regularly. I have been reliably informed that I can go-across
>at PADI "Rescue Diver" level and am planning on signing-up for a RD course,
>but want to appraise myself of the PADI-flavoured stuff that I will have
>missed by coming straight in at RD.
>
>
>
>I imagine that the main difference between PADI and BSAC are the
>decompression tables and how to use them. So, I bought an Open Water manual
>off ebay, but (1) it never arrived (2) I have recently been told that these
>aren't included in it anyway.
>
>
>
>Can anyone point me to somewhere on the interweb where I can find (?scanned)
>PADI tables and how to use them? Also welcome are any other pointers on
>differences between BSAC and PADI that I should read-up on.
>
>
>
>TIA
>
>
>
>Nic
>

nic wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I qualified as BSAC 3rd class in 1982. I have around 600 dives and still
> dive fairly regularly. I have been reliably informed that I can go-across
> at PADI "Rescue Diver" level and am planning on signing-up for a RD course,
> but want to appraise myself of the PADI-flavoured stuff that I will have
> missed by coming straight in at RD.

I don't think there's anything in the PADI OW and AOW courses which you
won't already know. In fact, if you'd made 600 dives without knowing the
real basics which these courses cover you'd almost certainly be dead by
now

I'm sure you'll have no problems going straight in at RD level.

> I imagine that the main difference between PADI and BSAC are the
> decompression tables and how to use them. So, I bought an Open Water manual
> off ebay, but (1) it never arrived (2) I have recently been told that these
> aren't included in it anyway.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...F-8&q=padi+rdp

"nic" <nic.boulton@nospam.btinternet.com> wrote

> I imagine that the main difference between PADI and BSAC are the
> decompression tables and how to use them. So, I bought an Open Water
manual
> off ebay, but (1) it never arrived (2) I have recently been told that
these
> aren't included in it anyway.
>

If you really want them, I can mail over mt OW manual, if you promise to
send it back sometime, or come over to NZ for a trip and dive with me...

But at 600 dives you should know everything in there already.

rhys

> I imagine that the main difference between PADI and BSAC are the
> decompression tables and how to use them. So, I bought an Open Water
manual
> off ebay, but (1) it never arrived (2) I have recently been told that
these
> aren't included in it anyway.
>
>
>
> Can anyone point me to somewhere on the interweb where I can find
(?scanned)
> PADI tables and how to use them? Also welcome are any other pointers on
> differences between BSAC and PADI that I should read-up on.
>



mail me off list if you need info on tables
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"Philip Herlihy" <foof8500@REMOVEherlihy.eu.com> wrote in message
news:bp5jkj$e81$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> If you use the "images" section of google, you'll find a few grainy images
> of the plain table and also the nitrox tables. (Watch out, PADI defend
> their intellectual property vigorously, and wouldn't even let me use their
> logo to link to their own site. BSAC are much more accommodating!).

To use PADI logo you need to be a PADI professional member, the brand is
worth protection.

> Be aware that there is also a gadget called the PADI "Wheel", which is
used
> for multi-level diving.
>
> Essential differences are that PADI won't countenance decompression diving
> or diving below 40M, and looks much more like a franchise than a club as
you
> move up the grades. Rescue Diver appears to be somewhere between Sports
> Diver and Dive Leader, and is the first grade at which folk I know accept
> that a PADI-trained diver is likely to know what (s)he's doing, and our
club
> welcomes them with open arms.

IYO - but the actual facts are PADI have the apprentise-tec, tec-deep,
apprentise-trimix and tec-trimix to 75m oddly this does include accelerated
decompression and helium.

If you cross over - take the long option DM internship, this will give you
time to see all of the different courses and specialities being taught, pick
a busy school with lots of different instructors and this inturn will make
up for not doing either the Open Water or Adventures in Diving programs,
these are by far the most "popular" courses.

- you will find major differences in the ethos of the organisations, a PADI
instructor generally is a PADI instructor, the support that the instructors
and facilities are afforded by PADI and that a commercial school is a
business to make a profit.

/FAB

Thanks for the correction:
http://www.padi.com/english/common/c...tec/trimix.asp

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Frank Bruce wrote:
>
> IYO - but the actual facts are PADI have the apprentise-tec, tec-deep,
> apprentise-trimix and tec-trimix to 75m oddly this does include
> accelerated decompression and helium.
>

In article <3fb6db23@news.iconz.co.nz>, rnf2 <rnf2@NOSPAMwaikato.ac.nz> wrote:
>
>"nic" <nic.boulton@nospam.btinternet.com> wrote
>
>> I imagine that the main difference between PADI and BSAC are the
>> decompression tables and how to use them. So, I bought an Open Water
>manual
>> off ebay, but (1) it never arrived (2) I have recently been told that
>these
>> aren't included in it anyway.
>>
>
>If you really want them, I can mail over mt OW manual, if you promise to
>send it back sometime, or come over to NZ for a trip and dive with me...
>
>But at 600 dives you should know everything in there already.

As has been said earlier; the only things I have found that is
special with the "regular" PADI system as compared to NAUI/CMAS etc
are the following :

-- Emphasis on breathing on a free-flowing regulator instead of
buddy-breathing.

-- Different tables. The standard RDP table is not rocket science,
but it has slightly different assumptions; it emphasises faster
compartments so it gives shorter deep bottom times but give
more diving in a repeated-diving "resort" setting.

-- Separate multi-level dive "table" called the wheel. Compatible
with the RDP tables; but can give long, shallow tails on initial
deep dives.

-- Emphasis on always bringing a snorkel.

The PADI "tech" course is another matter. Avoid at all cost.

-- mrr

Morten Reistad wrote:
> In article <3fb6db23@news.iconz.co.nz>, rnf2 <rnf2@NOSPAMwaikato.ac.nz> wrote:
>
>>"nic" <nic.boulton@nospam.btinternet.com> wrote
>
> -- Emphasis on always bringing a snorkel.

I always bring mine - it normally stays in the kit bag though.

>
> The PADI "tech" course is another matter. Avoid at all cost.

I've read quite a good review of the PADI/DSAT tech course? What is
wrong with it, IYHO?