compass

David Walker wrote:
>>An earlier poster seemed to be underestimating magnetic variation - can
>>often be in the 5 to 10 degree range, rather than 20 miles out at 4000
>
> miles
>
> Yeah - if you look at charts for the south coast, the variation from North
> is currently just over 4 degrees, and is actually coming back closer to true
> North by 8 minutes per year (8 60ths of a degree) so in a few decades true
> north will be the same as magnetic north, from the UK at least.

Yeup... my point was to say that the original pasted in quote gave the
wrong reason for the variation (it's due to the various rock types
nearby), and to point out that a 20 mile "movement" x thousand miles
away amounted to bugger all compass swing.

Cheers,

Ben

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Pete S. <> wrote in message >
> I'll be back...... compared to Europe, it's lovely.
>
> Pete S.

Pete

I see from your profile on Jason's site that your ambition is to dive
with penguins under icebergs. Well icebergs may be stretching it by a
few hundred miles, but on your travels in NZ, did you get to dive with
penguins??? If so, where? I have seen the little fellows on land near
Wellington but seeing them under water would be awesome.

Have seen birds under water at St Kilda, Farnes, Bass Rock, Skomer etc
etc, but penguins.... now that would be something for the log-book.

Cheers

Snash

"Snash" wrote

> I see from your profile on Jason's site that your ambition is to dive
> with penguins under icebergs. Well icebergs may be stretching it by a
> few hundred miles, but on your travels in NZ, did you get to dive with
> penguins??? If so, where? I have seen the little fellows on land near
> Wellington but seeing them under water would be awesome.
>
> Have seen birds under water at St Kilda, Farnes, Bass Rock, Skomer etc
> etc, but penguins.... now that would be something for the log-book.

There aren't a lot of wild penguins in Florida waters, but there are some in
a couple of our marine aquariums. I think SeaWorld has a penguin exhibit
with glass walls that allow you to observe them above and below the water.
Where ever I saw it, it was spectacular. Seeing it in real life, in the
wild, might just be worth the cost of buying and learning how to use a
drysuit.

Lee

> > penguins??? If so, where? I have seen the little fellows on land near
> > Wellington but seeing them under water would be awesome.
> >
well I expected my post to be hijacked by that yellow mob
but not a chocolate biscuit Mind you they both melt in the sun

ps I would love to dive with a penguin or two.

the other night on TV they were showing killer whales playing with a baby
seal before they ate it, The most amazing thing was watching them flip it in
to the air with their tails 20 - 30 feet up , but I did feel sad for the
seal.

Regards David

On 1 Dec 2003 03:13:34 -0800, s_nash@btinternet.com (Snash) wrote:

>Pete S. <> wrote in message >
>
>I went into several "dive outlets", asking "What kind of diving do you
>> do here?" to be told "anything you like". When I went on to explain
>> the type of diving I do, there was much shaking of heads, and comments
>> like "but we have a 15m bug hunt this afternoon, from a bendy boat..."
>
>
>Blimey, hope we don't bump into bugs that big, when we are out there in Feb
>
>Sorry, couldn't resist.
>
Smart arse.

Pete S.

On 3 Dec 2003 04:54:17 -0800, s_nash@btinternet.com (Snash) wrote:

>Pete S. <> wrote in message >
>> I'll be back...... compared to Europe, it's lovely.
>>
>> Pete S.
>
>Pete
>
>I see from your profile on Jason's site that your ambition is to dive
>with penguins under icebergs. Well icebergs may be stretching it by a
>few hundred miles, but on your travels in NZ, did you get to dive with
>penguins??? If so, where? I have seen the little fellows on land near
>Wellington but seeing them under water would be awesome.
>
>Have seen birds under water at St Kilda, Farnes, Bass Rock, Skomer etc
>etc, but penguins.... now that would be something for the log-book.
>
Bottom end of south island..... Somewhere round Dunedin or
Invercargill.

And if you go in the winter, Dive HQ run trips to frozen lakes in the
southern alps.

Pete S.

"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:uQlzb.2398$Qd6.2385@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> "Snash" wrote
..
>
> There aren't a lot of wild penguins in Florida waters, but there are some
in
> a couple of our marine aquariums. I think SeaWorld has a penguin exhibit
> with glass walls that allow you to observe them above and below the water.
> Where ever I saw it, it was spectacular. Seeing it in real life, in the
> wild, might just be worth the cost of buying and learning how to use a
> drysuit.
>
> Lee
>

After I left Edinburgh, I know EUSAC for a couple of years did dives in the
Penguin Pool at Edinburgh Zoo cleaning it out. Have seen the photos and it
looked fun with penuins zooming around.

However, I think they then needed to go on another dive to get rid of the
smell from their kit - Eusac not the Penguins, that is - )

Snash

"Snash" <s_nash@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Pete S. <> wrote in message >
> > I'll be back...... compared to Europe, it's lovely.
> >
> > Pete S.
>
> Pete
>
> I see from your profile on Jason's site that your ambition is to dive
> with penguins under icebergs. Well icebergs may be stretching it by a
> few hundred miles, but on your travels in NZ, did you get to dive with
> penguins??? If so, where? I have seen the little fellows on land near
> Wellington but seeing them under water would be awesome.
>
> Have seen birds under water at St Kilda, Farnes, Bass Rock, Skomer etc
> etc, but penguins.... now that would be something for the log-book.
>
> Cheers
>
> Snash

Try Dunedin, Invercargil, Milford and Dusky sounds and Stewert Isand.

Do you want blue penguin, yellow-eyed penguin, or other types?

I can ask around dive ops here about diving with them, I think the Stewart
Is chaps would be able to pretty much gaurantee you'll see them.

rhys

Having recently visited Edinburgh Zoo, I think it's time for another visit
from EUSAC - the transparent walls were so thick with algal film it was
impossible to see anything (and the water was very murky as well!

"Simon Nash" <S_Nash@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:uQlzb.2398$Qd6.2385@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > "Snash" wrote
> .
> >
> > There aren't a lot of wild penguins in Florida waters, but there are
some
> in
> > a couple of our marine aquariums. I think SeaWorld has a penguin
exhibit
> > with glass walls that allow you to observe them above and below the
water.
> > Where ever I saw it, it was spectacular. Seeing it in real life, in the
> > wild, might just be worth the cost of buying and learning how to use a
> > drysuit.
> >
> > Lee
> >
>
> After I left Edinburgh, I know EUSAC for a couple of years did dives in
the
> Penguin Pool at Edinburgh Zoo cleaning it out. Have seen the photos and it
> looked fun with penuins zooming around.
>
> However, I think they then needed to go on another dive to get rid of the
> smell from their kit - Eusac not the Penguins, that is - )
>
> Snash
>

Chris Quinn wrote:
> Having recently visited Edinburgh Zoo, I think it's time for another visit
> from EUSAC - the transparent walls were so thick with algal film it was
> impossible to see anything (and the water was very murky as well!
>

I'll get on to it

Ben
(EUSAC...)



--
Ben Panter, Edinburgh
My name (no spaces)@bigfoot which is a com.