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Adrian wrote:
> Alasdair Allan wrote:
> > Okay, I've justed test the Dive List with Netscape 4.78, Mozilla 1.3
> > and Internet Explorer 5 all running on Linux (yes, you can run IE5 on
> > Linux, see http://www.codeweavers.com/). It renders correctly in all
> > of these browsers.
>
> Thanks very much. It works for me now.
>
> I did look at upgrading my browser quite a while ago but Natwest online
> didn't like the newer version so I stuck to the old one. I'll have another
> look.

*shake head*

The NatWest site still won't let you use Mozilla, or any Netscape version
above 4.7x, which is a right pain in the backside.

But if you want to upgrade to a recent version of Mozilla, you can use the
uabar plugin from http://uabar.mozdev.org/ to modify modify the user agent
string so that the NatWest site thinks you're using Netscape 4.7x, then
all seems to work okay.

Of course I don't promise it _is_ working, just that it seems to work for
me...

Al.

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:51:13 +0000, Alasdair Allan wrote:

> But if you want to upgrade to a recent version of Mozilla, you can use the
> uabar plugin from http://uabar.mozdev.org/ to modify modify the user agent
> string so that the NatWest site thinks you're using Netscape 4.7x, then
> all seems to work okay.

I'm surprised because one of the problems with using Mozilla is that it's
not compatible with the non-standard features of Netscape 4. A lot of
websites have two versions of the code, one for Netscape and one for IE. I
find using Konqueror and/or Opera pretending to be IE makes most sites
work. Opodo are a notable exception, so I've taken my business elsewhere.

Jason

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Dave Appleby wrote:
> ASDA at home won't run under Opera (in IE mode) either. But as
> no one else around here delivers I don't have much choice.
>
> It's the only reason IE is still on my PC.
>
> The Opera/Eudora/Agent works fine for me!

I love all the macho browser wars stuff.

I run IE6 under windows because everything works on it.
Well no it doesn't really but every site that doesn't work
with IE gets fixed so it does work pronto.

I'm too lazy to be a hero.

nigelH

"Nigel Hewitt" <nigelh@REMOVETHISnigelhewitt.net> wrote in message
news:bqqu2o$31r$1@titan.btinternet.com

> >
> > The Opera/Eudora/Agent works fine for me!
>
> I love all the macho browser wars stuff.
>
> I run IE6 under windows because everything works on it.

> I'm too lazy to be a hero.
>
> nigelH

Part of the deciscion was to reduce the amount ofpatching I had to do.
The other was I know it's not much but I'm afraid I don't support
Mr Gates for World President!

YPYMYTYC

DaveA


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Jason <jason.usenet.nospam@ntlworld.com> writes:

>I don't support Netscape 4. It's an antiquated piece of junk that doesn't
>support HTML 4 or CSS. I will have a look and see if there's a missing
></TABLE> tag though. That's about the limit of my support.

It is also still the default browser distributed with Solaris 9.
Due to slackwitted Javascript coding practices which throw away any
Netscape or Mozilla versions later than 4.7, many people find it difficult
to switch because their on-line banking support stops working.

Having seen some examples of supposedly secure site design from the
leaders in the electronic commerce world, no way would I want to
expose my finances to them, but there you go.

Thanks for putting the table tag in. You're still missing a </html>
tag, but I guess most browsers can cope with that.

> And I don't see how
>including a DOCTYPE declaration will make any difference.

Without a DOCTYPE declaration you can't use tools such as the w3
validator, http://validator.w3.org/ . Which is very handy for
picking up elementary errors such as missing </table> tags.

Pete

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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:30:52 +0000, Pete Young wrote:

> Without a DOCTYPE declaration you can't use tools such as the w3
> validator, http://validator.w3.org/ . Which is very handy for
> picking up elementary errors such as missing </table> tags.

Not really much help for machine generated code though. Besides, you can
specify the DOCTYPE manually. There was a blank line in all the files
where the </table> tag should have been. I probably pressed the wrong key
in vi and deleted it by mistake.

Mind you the spaces table still looked a bit of a mess on Netscape 4 when
I looked at the weekend. It just doesn't like tables inside other tables.

Jason

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"Jason" <jason.usenet.nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote ...

> Mind you the spaces table still looked a bit of a mess on
> Netscape 4 when I looked at the weekend. It just doesn't
> like tables inside other tables.

You're fighting a loosing battle if you expect Netscape 4.x to comply and
render correctly even the basic HTML 3.2 standards Jason, table handling is
especially dire as you have mentioned. Keep up the good work on the UKRS
Dive Lists but you'll go mad trying to get it to work on Netscape, I gave up
long ago on 4.x as I know when I'm beaten

Keith L