Cold Water?

Does anybody know what the actual temp is for defining cold water? I
can find all sorts of references to what to do for tables etc if
you're diving in cold water, but nowhere the cut off point that makes
it cold water rather than warm. Any suggestions on where to look
would be appreciated

Kit

On 13 Dec 2003 02:25:17 -0800, scubakit@yahoo.co.uk (Kit) wrote:

>Does anybody know what the actual temp is for defining cold water? I
>can find all sorts of references to what to do for tables etc if
>you're diving in cold water, but nowhere the cut off point that makes
>it cold water rather than warm. Any suggestions on where to look
>would be appreciated
>

According to the CE standard I believe its anything under 10 degrees C



Pete
diving 'at' melbourne 'dot' me 'dot' uk

"Pete Melbourne" <psmvsl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 13 Dec 2003 02:25:17 -0800, scubakit@yahoo.co.uk (Kit) wrote:
>
> >Does anybody know what the actual temp is for defining cold water? I
> >can find all sorts of references to what to do for tables etc if
> >you're diving in cold water, but nowhere the cut off point that makes
> >it cold water rather than warm. Any suggestions on where to look
> >would be appreciated
> >
>
> According to the CE standard I believe its anything under 10 degrees C
>

Same for PADI. sub 10*C

rhys

rnf2 wrote:
> Pete Melbourne wrote:
> > Kit wrote:
> > > Does anybody know what the actual temp is for defining cold water?
> >
> > According to the CE standard I believe its anything under 10 degrees C
>
> Same for PADI. sub 10*C

10C, really? Wow...

I wouldn't really call that _cold_, I mean, you only really start to feel
it when it drops below 8C. 10C is still pretty comfy in a decent dry suit.

Al.

"Alasdair Allan" <aa@ukrecscuba.org.uk> wrote in message
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> 10C is still pretty comfy in a decent dry suit.
>
> Al.


How would you know, tea bag boy?

> Same for PADI. sub 10*C
>
> rhys

If PADI give a specific temp i'd love to know where, I've looked
everywhere I can think of in all my PADI manuals and haven't been able
to find the specific temp

Tia

Kit

On 14 Dec 2003 11:21:09 -0800, scubakit@yahoo.co.uk (Kit) wrote:

>> Same for PADI. sub 10*C
>>
>> rhys
>
>If PADI give a specific temp i'd love to know where, I've looked
>everywhere I can think of in all my PADI manuals and haven't been able
>to find the specific temp
>

Took me about 10 seconds experience summary in the logbook that
came with my OW course

0 - 10 cold
10 - 21 moderate
21+ warm

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Pete Melbourne wrote:
> scubakit@yahoo.co.uk (Kit) wrote:
>
>> Does anybody know what the actual temp is for defining cold water?
>
> According to the CE standard I believe its anything under 10 degrees C

10C is cold? I just ran a tally on the old Aladin computer log and it gave
40% of the UK dives that I did with it were 10C or below.

The only one where I put the word 'cold' in my notes was Vobster in
March this year with Bob and Fuzz (second dive of the day and 6C
- both just over half an hour).

These dry suit thingies must be a good idea.

nigelH
Apex and Scubapro owner.

Ian Blakeley wrote:

> On 14 Dec 2003 11:21:09 -0800, scubakit@yahoo.co.uk (Kit) wrote:
>
>
>>>Same for PADI. sub 10*C
>>>
>>>rhys
>>
>>If PADI give a specific temp i'd love to know where, I've looked
>>everywhere I can think of in all my PADI manuals and haven't been able
>>to find the specific temp
>>
>
>
> Took me about 10 seconds experience summary in the logbook that
> came with my OW course
>
> 0 - 10 cold
> 10 - 21 moderate
> 21+ warm
>

From the PADI Divemaster manual:

Cold Water Diving
"Cold" is a somewhat subjective term, influenced by individual tolerance
and by exposure protection worn by an individual. Water 24C/75F is
"warm" by general diving standards, and by wearing a full wet suit,
typically an individual can stay comfortable for a long period. Although
comfort depends on the person, the temperature and the exposure
protection, for the purposes of discussion "cold water" will be
considered water in which a full wet suit with hood is required for even
a short dive. This roughly means temperatures below 21C/70F, though
there are some divers who dive comfortably without a hood at or slightly
below that temperature.

The broad categories in the PADI logbook summary are of very
questionable use in assessing a divers experience of cold water
conditions and certainly not intended to be a definition of cold for any
other purpose.

Simon

Alasdair Allan wrote:
> I wouldn't really call that _cold_, I mean, you only really start to feel
> it when it drops below 8C. 10C is still pretty comfy in a decent dry suit.


It depends also on the duration and on the air-temp I would say.
30 Minutes in 4°c was my gf's and mine maximum this spring in an austrian
lake (alpine melting-water) wearing semy-dry camaros. but outside temp was
about 18°c, that's why it was tolerable.
problem-zones: fingers and face

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