dry suit !

ok Ive been back in the pond again. this time with adjustments made to
harness and where to put octopus.
still having a problem with gauge cliped to left hand waist d ring being
just out of sight. I cant make up my mind
should I move d ring around nearer the front or attacht gauge in a diffrent
way. also on surface Im getting the pushed
forward feel from wing so next time ill put some weight up on a cam band.

Now this pond is very silty and only about 4 meters deep once ive sterred
up the silt to the extent that vis is nil
and I do mean nil. Trying to guess accent rate with pressure changes in
ears in a hood is impossible for me. in warmer waters and 20 meters + vis
I can feel pressure changes enough to control accent rates. When I have
dived more in our colder seas will this skill return ?

oh and Happy New Year to all

Regards DAvid

"david" <im@fedup.com> wrote ...


> still having a problem with gauge cliped to left hand waist d ring being
> just out of sight.

That's why I don't put mine there Add a stage and things start to get
really messy.

Now I know that the left hip D ring is the "right" way of doing things but
I've never found that it works for me. I've got an extra D ring half way up
the left side of the harness, I clip the contents gauge off there so that
the gauge itself ends up at around mid chest height, with a stage in place I
run it under the stage.

With a simple sweep of my left hand I have the gauge, I can put it right in
front of my face if I want to (low viz situations?), I'm not trying to
squint at it from a distance out of the bottom of my mask.

Works for me

Keith L

david wrote:
> still having a problem with gauge cliped to left hand waist d ring

He he. I clipped mine off to the chest D-rings. I have nice little
Scubapro ones and I'm short sighted so putting it (them) on
my waist would be silly. I also have two which winds up the
purists.

> also on surface Im getting the pushed forward feel from wing
> so next time ill put some weight up on a cam band.

A wing does that with a single. The tank doesn't hold it forwards
so well so even a wing purpose built for a single tends to wrap
round the tank and move the lift point back.

> Now this pond is very silty and only about 4 meters deep once ive
> sterred up the silt to the extent that vis is nil and I do mean nil. Trying
> to guess accent rate with pressure changes in ears in a hood is
> impossible for me. in warmer waters and 20 meters + vis I can feel
> pressure changes enough to control accent rates. When I have
> dived more in our colder seas will this skill return ?

This 'skill' is a myth. The feeling changes too much with depth. If you're
going to do tec diving your ascent rate is not negotiable so you always
have nice solid measurable lines. A shot, preferably a lazy shot and
a trapeze, you blob and reel, your back up blob and reel, you buddies
blob and reel, your buddies backup bl.....

> oh and Happy New Year to all

Well strenuous new year. I've just worked out what I need to load for
Icebreakers. I've just finished reharnessing the twinset.

nigelH

>
> Well strenuous new year. I've just worked out what I need to load for
> Icebreakers. I've just finished reharnessing the twinset.
>
> nigelH


Oh good cos I've put on a pound or two over the last couple of weeks!

Ta

DaveA


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"david" <im@fedup.com> wrote in message
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> ok Ive been back in the pond again. this time with adjustments made to
> harness and where to put octopus.
> still having a problem with gauge cliped to left hand waist d ring being
> just out of sight. I cant make up my mind
> should I move d ring around nearer the front or attacht gauge in a
diffrent
> way. also on surface Im getting the pushed
> forward feel from wing so next time ill put some weight up on a cam band.
>
> Now this pond is very silty and only about 4 meters deep once ive
sterred
> up the silt to the extent that vis is nil
> and I do mean nil. Trying to guess accent rate with pressure changes in
> ears in a hood is impossible for me. in warmer waters and 20 meters + vis
> I can feel pressure changes enough to control accent rates. When I have
> dived more in our colder seas will this skill return ?
>
> oh and Happy New Year to all
>
> Regards DAvid
>
>


Erm, if you cant see it there.... unclip it and raise it to your eyes, then
reclip it?

The ears thing is very variable, its more useful in shallow water. Yes, it
does come back... In deeper water, we tend to use lines or depth
guages....


/Z

> > Now this pond is very silty and only about 4 meters deep once ive
> sterred
> > up the silt to the extent that vis is nil
> > and I do mean nil.

well dont stir the silt up then ;o) - easy to say i know but with
proper bouyancy and finning it can be done to a large extent

>
>
> Erm, if you cant see it there.... unclip it and raise it to your eyes, then
> reclip it?
>

exactly, how often do you need to look at your pressure gauge anyway?
3 or 4 times in a dive its not like CC where you need to see what the
unit is doing all the time. With OC it'll be obvious if you have a
problem and if you just have a slow leak your buddy will be able to
see it. Personaly ive never had a problem even with 2 stages and reel
on this ring (its alot easier without gloves)

> The ears thing is very variable, its more useful in shallow water. Yes, it
> does come back... In deeper water, we tend to use lines or depth
> guages....

David, where do you put your depth gauge BTW?

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 05:36:45 -0800, Ian McDean wrote:

> exactly, how often do you need to look at your pressure gauge anyway?
> 3 or 4 times in a dive its not like CC where you need to see what the

Depends on the dive, doesn't it? If I'm doing a deep dive with a set
bottom time and a runtime slate and a plan that gets me out of the water
with about half my gas remaining, then I don't need to look at it very
often.

If the plan is to dive along some wall on a single cylinder and hit the
surface with 30-40 bar, I probably ought to look at it a little more
often.

Jason

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> Depends on the dive, doesn't it? If I'm doing a deep dive with a set
> bottom time and a runtime slate and a plan that gets me out of the water
> with about half my gas remaining, then I don't need to look at it very
> often.
I dont do this yet.


> If the plan is to dive along some wall on a single cylinder and hit the
> surface with 30-40 bar, I probably ought to look at it a little more
> often.
this is me.


> Jason
>
> --
> See http://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/ for trip reports including
> the Costa Blanca, Gibraltar, Gran Canaria and the UK
>

> > > Erm, if you cant see it there.... unclip it and raise it to your
eyes,
> then
> > > reclip it?
> > >
> >
> > exactly, how often do you need to look at your pressure gauge anyway?
> more than you I like to see it.

fair enough but as i say there it isnt realy nessary to check it every 30
secs is it

> > 3 or 4 times in a dive its not like CC where you need to see what the

if you think about it 4 times during a dive is fairly often, once on the
bottem once after 5 mins or so then every 10 mins, you will then have an
idea of how much gas your using and your using and your dive plan should
keep you within your normal consumption rate. If you then check again and
its way out its time to check things - kit and plan. But if you are loosing
gas and dont know about it, your buddy isnt looking at you enough so you
have a real problem. Then on the way up there isnt realy much need to check
your gauge unless your low in which case youve got other issuees. But anyway
if you want to check your gauge often go ahead, the more often you
clip/unlip the easier it is anyway.

> > unit is doing all the time. With OC it'll be obvious if you have a
> > problem and if you just have a slow leak your buddy will be able to
> > see it. Personaly ive never had a problem even with 2 stages and reel
> > on this ring (its alot easier without gloves)
> do you dive in the winter with out gloves ?

i have done, and was OK - im lucky as my hands seem to still work when cold
and once the intial cold has passed its OK, possibly not best for most
people though. Ive also used gloves, the trick is to find what you want to
unclip then folow it back to the clip not the other way round. Using gloves
takes abit of practice as with every thing realy. I dont tend to use gloves
unless i can help it though.

> > David, where do you put your depth gauge BTW?
> on my right arm or left (left comp+compass right watch)
I could
> hang another one from a d ring

better in a pocket realy

but if ive got 2
> and a buddy if they all break at once might be the right time to call
any
> dive.

and take up golf!!

>
> fair enough but as i say there it isnt realy nessary to check it every 30
> secs is it
>
> > > 3 or 4 times in a dive its not like CC where you need to see what the
as you say if i check it every ten mins thats only 6 times an hour not a
major problem to unclip it.
but ive just changed the fixing point onto the gauge so I think I have it
got it sorted....... back to the pond and the mud !!!!


> and take up golf!!
I dont even like golf but I think it must be a cheaper
option....underwater golf anyone


David