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Old 03-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Rob Hampton
 
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>I'm unconvinced too. With a wing inflator hose that's just the right
>length, I don't see how it's going to reach the suit inflator.


Lots of negative replies! (Not picking on you specifically Jason.) Are certain
people reading too much of that other rec.scuba site? I've had enough and
unsubscribed.

My drysuit hose is fed by an independant bottle. The hose is routed from the
left and is quite long enough to reach my wing and inhale counterlung if I feel
the need. My 7ltr stage also has a long standardised hose which I or those with
a greater need can use.

Less clutter in the spares box-
What about having a single dive saving, long, standardised connector, direct
feed hose sitting in the bottom of the dive bag? AP Diving sell a long hose (or
custom length) with quick release which can be removed, the hose cut to the
exact length required, then the quick release can be refitted with just 2
spanners.

These are used throughout the Inspiration and as far as I know haven't caused
any failures. Anyone know otherwise?

Just another reason to standardise all nipples.

Rob Hampton
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Vic
 
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"NickR" <nickrobertsat@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> you wouldn't even have to remove your gloves and it wouldn't even take a
> minute.


Exactly the same is true for a reg swap - and that's all an oral
inflation is.

> You would then have full buoyancy control for the ascent


As you do if you do an oral inflate.

> and
> wouldn't have to remove your reg to inflatee your wing on the surface


Removing a reg is a problem for you, is it? I really don't see this as
an issue.

> I'd
> feel happier but then of course there's always someone who knows
> better.


I'd feel much happier knowing I'm not disabling my backup buoyancy
source in an attempt to fix my primary - it might work, in which case
you've still got the same number of control volumes, or it might fail -
in which case you now have neither, and need to rely on ternary buoyancy
sources.

Tell me - have you ever seen anyone have difficulty getting a
pressurised connector to mate properly? Have you seen the same number of
people having problems getting a reg into their mouth?

Vic.





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Old 03-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Nigel Hewitt
 
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Vic wrote:
> Tell me - have you ever seen anyone have difficulty getting a
> pressurised connector to mate properly? Have you seen the same number
> of people having problems getting a reg into their mouth?


Oh Grief I hadn't looked at it from that point of view.

I once rushed things getting in the water and naturally
missed something and dived with the drysuit inflator off.
It was the very bitch to put back in the water in gloves
- partly because I have on of the rotating Apeks ones. With
a reg in your mouth it is so much harder to do because
you want to see down.

Thankfully this was diving the Countess of Erm and we
were blown out again.

No. I don't realy fancy unplugging the one that works
to fix the one that doesn't and hoping I can get it
back together.

nigelH


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Old 03-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Vic
 
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"matts" <matts@nospam.org> wrote in message
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> I dislike the idea of having to
> use a technique which I have relatively little practice with.


That's a fair point, but one with a *very* simple solution...

> I do not
> normally dive without a power inflate so I would like to avoid
> escaping without one.


Neither do you ever dive without an oral inflate - you just don't tend
to use it. It's a backup, and worthy of being treated the same as all
your other backups...

> YMMV


It does indeed!

Vic.


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Old 03-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Charlie King
 
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:19:14 +0000 (UTC), in
<80caae3975b1e6895132393fb8a77898.60200@mygate.mai lgate.org>
(uk.rec.scuba) "Vic" <vic@innocent.com> wrote:

> Neither do you ever dive without an oral inflate - you just don't tend
> to use it.


Oh I use mine regularly... that way I can breathe my tank so dry that
it buckles, without needing to save any air for inflating the BCD at
the surface.


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Old 03-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Steve Barlow
 
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On 19 Jan 2004 10:31:24 GMT, rhamp3601@aol.comnojunk (Rob Hampton)
wrote:

>Just another reason to standardise all nipples.


Actually they are trying too, the standard nipple has a flat not
tapered end and two holes in it.
That of course is different to all those I had up until two years ago.
I have both inflate hose types on one of my regs just because of this.

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Rudy Lacchin
 
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"NickR" <nickrobertsat@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> I understand it's a good idea to 'standardise' your inflators so that they
> fit both your dry suit and BCD in case of failure in one or the other. How
> does this work and is it expensive? Currently have an Apeks valve on the
> suit and Halcyon wing.


Good idea IMO. That way you only have to stock/carry one spare.

R.


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Old 03-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Vic
 
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"NickR" <nickrobertsat@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> - indeed, if I
> > am wrong, I'll be the first to welcome a decent rebuttal. If you can do
> > it, go right ahead...

>
> hmm, no ego....indeed.


Indeed. See the word "welcome" up there? it has a meaning. Were I to
have the monstrous ego of which you accuse me, I'd do anything but
welcome a rebuttal.

So go on. If you can disprove my argument, then do it. We'll all be
better off.

> life too short. I'll get my coat.


I take it, then, that you don't have adequate substantiation for your
position? If it were defensible, I'd expect some sort of defence, you
see...

Vic.





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Old 03-27-2007, 12:27 AM
NickR
 
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>
> I take it, then, that you don't have adequate substantiation for your
> position? If it were defensible, I'd expect some sort of defence, you
> see...
>
> Vic.
>


plonk..........er


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Old 03-27-2007, 12:27 AM
Vic
 
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"NickR" <nickrobertsat@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> plonk..........er


Aha. How's about that for substantiation. Proves the point beyond doubt.

Vic.





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