Inflators

NickR wrote:

> Not a problem no but whenever I've taken my reg out on the surface I always
> seem to be unfortunately positioned to take a wave in the face and swallow
> copious amounts of seawater, actually once I was trying to orally inflate
> and as I was taking as breath to blow into the wing I swallowed a load of
> water. Made me pretty sick, maybe it's a phobia!

I don't get it. You take a breath out of your reg, take the reg out,
breath it into your BCD/wing, then put the reg back into your mouth.
Where is there a possibility to swallow seawater? If you take your
reg out of your mouth underwater do you drown or do you just shut
your mouth?

- Keith

> I don't get it. You take a breath out of your reg, take the reg out,
> breath it into your BCD/wing, then put the reg back into your mouth.
> Where is there a possibility to swallow seawater? If you take your
> reg out of your mouth underwater do you drown or do you just shut
> your mouth?
>
> - Keith
>

Keith

Admittedly it did go more like this. Surace, take reg out of mouth, take
deep breath...gulp...oops.

Nick

KS> I don't get it. You take a breath out of your reg, take the reg out,
KS> breath it into your BCD/wing, then put the reg back into your mouth.
KS> Where is there a possibility to swallow seawater?

I am crap at dancing too.

Regards
Matt

"matts" <matts@nospam.org> wrote in message
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> I find it incredible that someone would bugger about with oral inflation
> when they have a perfectly servicable power inflate which can be
> crosspatched incredibly simply.

Where's the buggering about? Take breath from reg, blow it into wing.
Job done. No compromising of a working system (the suit inflate). No
issues with getting connectors to mate. I really don't see any
difficulty with oral inflation; I see potential problems with patching a
suit inflate into a wing - or rather, failing to do so...

Please point out the errors in that because I can't see them.

> Now what were you sayong about points of view!

Sure - provide some substantiation and we'll all be the richer for it.

> Maybe you could learn that there is not always a right and wrong. If your
> stuck and swapped a hose or orally inflated or winched yourself up a lifting
> bag to get out the crap, none would be wrong.

Absolutely agreed. But to promote hose-swapping in preference to oral
inaflation in the absence of any qualification is ludicrous.

> You assume the impoliteness has not already scared off people with something
> useful to add.

If that's so, then they're not around to get offended by anything now,
are they?

> I don't do the ironing in our house. Not because I can't you understand,
> but because I can find so many more interesting things to do.

Indeed. But that leaves you on very dodgy ground when it comes to
complaining about someone else's ironing.

> P.S. Don't tell her.

Wassit worth?

Vic.


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> Where's the buggering about? Take breath from reg, blow it into wing.
> Job done. No compromising of a working system (the suit inflate). No
> issues with getting connectors to mate. I really don't see any
> difficulty with oral inflation;

Neither do I. But then all my qualifying dives were done using this method.
Not enough LP ports on my original reg. (No octopus either, but thats a
differant argument)

However, if you have never done this apart from to prove you can in the pool
it may appear a little more daunting ?

Just my 2 pennyworth.


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TonyL
Swindon. UK

"TonyL" <TonyLittlerlosethis@losethis.virgin.net> wrote in message
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> it may appear a little more daunting ?

It might indeed. Isn't this a good reason to practice such a simple
skill?

Vic.


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> > it may appear a little more daunting ?
>
> It might indeed. Isn't this a good reason to practice such a simple
> skill?
I wont argue with that.


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TonyL
Swindon. UK

> I find it incredible that someone would bugger about with oral inflation
> when they have a perfectly servicable power inflate which can be
> crosspatched incredibly simply.

Ummm... assuming you can reconnect the hose - which from experience isn't
always very easy. And if its not easy, you expend a lot of effort and
energy into doing it, and may be left with only oral inflate and no drysuit
either! Have you never noticed how many people have problems connecting
pressurised hoses even on the surface? Might be easy for you, but at some
point they all seem to go wrong, and would you like that time to be when
you've just disconnected your remaining power-source of bouyancy?
Alternatively, just go up on your suit, you won't need much air in to get
you going since you should be dumping on the way up anyway. Swapping hoses
seems a very complex solution to a very simple problem.
Not that i'm saying having matching hoses is a bad idea, just not for that
reason - servicing and spares on the surface seems like a much better use
for it though.

In response to the general argument about people complaining and being
unconstructive somewhere else in this thread, all i'm doing here, and I
suspect what others are doing, is pointing out that there is a flaw in the
idea of disconnecting hoses underwater - its unnecessary for several
reasons - oral inflate is possible and easy, can go up with no extra air
anyway, can go up on drysuit if needed, etc, etc... Since the archive of
the group is a well used resource for new divers, the alternative view
really has to be given - if no one posted the alternative views then people
reading the archive would get a one sided view and the whole group is then
pointless (well, in some ways).

David

> Ummm... assuming you can reconnect the hose - which from experience isn't
> always very easy. And if its not easy, you expend a lot of effort and
> energy into doing it, and may be left with only oral inflate and no
drysuit
> either! Have you never noticed how many people have problems connecting
> pressurised hoses even on the surface? Might be easy for you, but at some
> point they all seem to go wrong, and would you like that time to be when
> you've just disconnected your remaining power-source of bouyancy?
> Alternatively, just go up on your suit, you won't need much air in to get
> you going since you should be dumping on the way up anyway. Swapping
hoses
> seems a very complex solution to a very simple problem.
> Not that i'm saying having matching hoses is a bad idea, just not for that
> reason - servicing and spares on the surface seems like a much better use
> for it though.
>

If you have problems connecting and disconnecting hoses then you need to get
them lubricated. Assuming that you dont drag your gear through the sand that
is.

I have no problems disconnecting and reconnecting my dry suit hose
underwater as I do that all the time to inflate my DSMB.

matts wrote:
> KS> I don't get it. You take a breath out of your reg, take the reg out,
> KS> breath it into your BCD/wing, then put the reg back into your mouth.
> KS> Where is there a possibility to swallow seawater?
>
> I am crap at dancing too.

Me too, but I have many years practise at breathing.

- Keith